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    wmcforum
    Which Mobility Car

    There is a lot of knowledge amongst us, I exclude myself.

    The COVID 19 is dominating the news:

    How worried should we be?

    Will this be Spanish flu proportions or just another contained outbreak as SARS and MERS were?

    Oh – and when will we start to see ‘Just in time’ manufacturing suffer?

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  • #136197 Reply
    Brydo

    My mothers GP have still to receive the vaccine so she is still waiting.

    #136198 Reply
    Oscarmax
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    Glad your father-in-law got sorted, Brydo. Weight off mind. Not much happening here (Sussex). Both next-door neighbours well north of 80 years. Heard nothing. GP still doing no face-to-face stuff. And he’s heard nothing about vaccinating from NHS. Also, saw on Beeb this a.m. that pharmacies are doing jabs. Reporter in shop talking to “nurse” who wore only a nose/ mouth mask, No gloves. No apron. No visor. Moreover, around 20 folks in open perspex booths waiting to be seen to, few masks. You’d think the shop would try to get a workable appointment system working given the soaring rate of infections/deaths. Difficult, I know, but, well…

    Tharg is this common practise with the GP no face to face assessment. Our GP practise has only been carrying phone assessments full stop since first lockdown, winter flu injection carried out by nurses in village hall only.

     


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    #136327 Reply
    Brydo

    Yes Tharg it is however no jab is 100% effective, take the flu jab I got it a few weeks ago and I still can’t fly 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

    #136388 Reply
    Wigwam
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    PLAYBOOK INTERVIEW — ANDREW GODDARD, ROYAL COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS

    DISPATCH FROM THE FRONT LINE: With the NHS coming under unprecedented strain, Playbook caught up with Andrew Goddard, president of the 500-year-old Royal College of Physicians, which represents 39,000 medics, to give an update on how the health system and, critically, the people within it are coping. Professor Goddard is a consultant physician and gastroenterologist and has been working shifts on the wards at the Royal Derby Hospital caring for COVID and other patients.

     

    The bottom line: With roughly 50 percent more admissions than during the first wave, the NHS is in a “far worse place” this time around, Goddard said. “This is busier than anybody currently working in the NHS has ever experienced.”

     

    Regional picture: Things are better in some parts of the country than others, with case rates now seemingly falling in London and the South East, hopefully translating into a sustained fall in admissions. “But they’re still continuing to increase in the North West and in the Midlands,” Goddard said. “We know that the number of hospital admissions lags by two weeks … The Midlands is already struggling. It’s going to really struggle in two weeks.”

     

    Differences to first wave: Although there are more COVID inpatients overall, there are actually about the same numbers in intensive care as at the previous peak in April. That’s because doctors know so much more about how to treat COVID now, so fewer need mechanical ventilation, Goddard said. “This has put much more of an onus on respiratory medicine teams and other medical teams. The use of steroids and CPAP [a form of ventilatory support which uses a mask] is much greater than in the first wave.”

     

    Sharing the load: It also means that nearly all of that 50 percent increase in patient numbers is being seen on non-intensive medical wards. Goddard believes the NHS will have enough beds to cope, but it may well require many more patients being transferred away from their local hospital to where there is bed capacity further afield. That has already been seen with intensive care patients during this crisis, but is “almost unheard of” for non-intensive care patients. “Everyone’s going to have to muck in. I think then there will be enough beds. But we will be sweating the NHS asset harder than it has ever been sweated before,” Goddard said.

    #136438 Reply
    wmcforum
    Which Mobility Car

    I guess there will be an American variant of Covid for us to worry about soon alongside the European (UK), Brazilian and South African variant, if you let these things go mostly uncontrolled they mutate. Presumably there will not be a Kiwi, Aussie, Thai or Chinese variant.

    #136443 Reply
    BigDave
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    I guess there will be an American variant of Covid for us to worry about soon alongside the European (UK), Brazilian and South African variant, if you let these things go mostly uncontrolled they mutate. Presumably there will not be a Kiwi, Aussie, Thai or Chinese variant.

    There is a Yorkshire Covid variant, but as we cannot sell it for money, we are not letting anyone else have it!

    Probably likewise with the Scottish variant (lol).

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    wmcforum
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    JS
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    lol very good

    #136460 Reply
    gothitjulie
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    I guess there will be an American variant of Covid for us to worry about soon alongside the European (UK), Brazilian and South African variant, if you let these things go mostly uncontrolled they mutate. Presumably there will not be a Kiwi, Aussie, Thai or Chinese variant.

    Worry ye not, all is covered, Pirbright found that cats, dogs & cattle are at risk from COVID (in the test tube at least), so we have new reservoirs to give up meowing kung flu, dogging kung flu, & simple mooing kung flu too.

    [Although there is some fact hidden in this post with regards to the experiments done at Pirbright Institute, the writer is “taking the pee” in extremis here]

     

    #136481 Reply
    Wigwam
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    Wigwam
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    Apologies didn’t expect the whole thing to appear.

    #136533 Reply
    joss
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    @Wigwam

    It happens to the best of us. So lets see if we can tidy it up. What part do you want to keep out of 1 out of 26?

     

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    #136541 Reply
    Wigwam
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    Delete it all Joss. I’ll post a link rather than the document.

    #136564 Reply
    joss
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    @Wigwam

    There you go. Post up your link at your convenience

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    #136635 Reply
    Wigwam
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    Wigwam
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    Wigwam
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    Wigwam
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    #136750 Reply
    Clipped wings

    Hi Wigwam,

    I am no anti-Vaxer, having had armfuls including yellow fever  over 35 years of travel to India, Africa etc. But am I alone in being a little sceptical regarding the euphoric celebrations of quantity vs quality.  The inventors and producers of the mRNA vaccine stipulate 2 doses 3 weeks apart. There is NO DATA for extending this to 12 weeks. April fools day will be telling as the millions who have had first dose will start to need the second. Will that take all capacity up to July?
    then there is the Astra/Oxford. During trials it achieved @60% efficacy and then “accidentally” 90% by one 1/2 dose followed by  full one. So what is being given? A full dose or a half and what are the consequences of a 12 week delay? No Data. Policy dominating science. Fingers crossed for the outcome.

    #136751 Reply
    Clipped wings

    My mum is in a nursing home. The staff were given the Pfizer followed by the residents. On Friday, 7 staff and 4 residents tested positive. Today 8 residents. Norway has reported over 20 deaths and there are many in a New York care home. The nurse was devastated as they have successfully kept it out from thee beginning.

    #136757 Reply
    Tharg
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    Mr Wings… “policy dominating science”? I fear that rather it is “politicians’ need power at any cost chucking science out window”.

    Moreover, the Beeb just told us that the over 70s (me and Mrs T) plus Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (MrsT) will be offered jab by end of this week.  Now, since neither of our 80+ year-old neighbours have heard anything about vaccine and given the government and NHS propensity to tell porkies, you will understand my scepticism about hearing anything this week, if at all! Will let you know…

    #136761 Reply
    Wigwam
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    Clipped wings, I am sceptical of most things (as others here know) but I believe the medical profession have the better of this. The Norway deaths that were reported were of people who were already very frail and it has been acknowledged they should not have been given the vaccine, the side effects of which (not a problem for more healthy people) hastened their demise.

    I have no confidence in the utterences HMG or its minions, and only time will tell if mass vaccination works.  No-one can possibly know.  Four people in my family have now had the virus, and in only one case was it as serious as a bad bout of flu, so I’m not rushing to get the jab.

    #136769 Reply
    Clipped wings

    My wife and I are both Clinically extremely vulnerable for very different reasons, hence my concern that the unilateral decision to delay the second jab without any supporting data is a gamble. Let us hope it is not snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Every other country is complying with the manufacturers instructions. We all want to get back to normal and hug our grandchildren, but will need more than buffoonery from hmg for that to happen

    #136770 Reply
    Daf

    Wigwam you produced a link to Brian Monteith with regards to the efficacy or otherwise of lockdowns. Is this the same person who was chief whip of the Brexit party in the European parliament and went mental in December 2019 shouting “freedom” and going on to make a pretty deranged speech? He is also a climate change denier and thinks that Socialism is far more likely to lead to extinction than climate change. Where do you dig these people up from?

    The double graphs you highlighted were quite interesting though. As anyone knows the effects of a lock down can only be properly assessed after the event because like the manoeuvre of the proverbial supertanker it takes time. No one ever said that lockdowns on their own are a panacea for dealing with Covid. But they are effective in taking the pressure off the health service by reducing the level of transmission.

    The lower the level of social interaction the lower the level of Covid transmission. What’s difficult to understand about that? Obviously I may be wrong but I expect as with previous lockdowns that the level of transmission will plateau and even reduce.

     

    #136791 Reply
    Wigwam
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    DAF, you’re welcome to have a point of view and I hold no brief for Monteith. I listen to what he says as I listen to any informed comment.  What I don’t do is attack the man because I don’t like his message.

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