Coronavirus

  • Creator
    Topic
  • #108156
    wmcforum
    Which Mobility Car

      There is a lot of knowledge amongst us, I exclude myself.

      The COVID 19 is dominating the news:

      How worried should we be?

      Will this be Spanish flu proportions or just another contained outbreak as SARS and MERS were?

      Oh – and when will we start to see ‘Just in time’ manufacturing suffer?

    Viewing 25 replies - 1,051 through 1,075 (of 1,420 total)
    • Author
      Replies
    • #135984
      Georgie

        There is the other aspect of Covid-19 that rarely seems to get a mention – ‘Long Covid’, which is leaving thousands of survivors of all ages and levels of health with varying degrees of disability, from ‘fatigue’ to permanent spinal chord damage and brain damage.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55635451

        I wonder how the Government will deal with all the extra claims on our Social Care Services considering they’d all but run it into the ground and didn’t give a toss about the disabled before Covid 19?

        #135987
        Brydo

          Strange how its working in my area, my uncle, 80, got his jab yesterday, father in law, 85, is to get it next week, neither with underlying health condition. My mum and aunt, both 88, both with underlying health conditions, no word.

          Is it because men are more likely to die from covid?

          #135992
          Georgie

            Could just be related to their post codes?  Or alphabetical by surname?

            #135994
            Brydo

              Yes Georgie but medically it makes no sense.

              #135995
              Brydo

                Of course I don’t want to complain too much, I would rather this than none of them being vaccinated.

                #136002
                Daf

                  Wigwam 1.96 million worldwide so rounded up to 2 million

                  #136005
                  Wigwam
                  Participant

                    Yes, I know that daf, but bandying figures about without defining them is scaremongering in my book.  More useful are the figures of excess deaths compared to seasonal normal, and compared to five year averages – population adjusted, which are not available for many countries.  Historical statistics for the UK are the most reliable.

                    #136010
                    mitch
                    Participant

                      hindsight is a wonderful thing.

                      on a do over we woud have pulled up the draw bridge stopped all international travel on day one for at least a month or more as new zealand did.

                      but realistically what politician would have had the balls to do that.

                      the actions they took were tempered by them  wanting to affect the economy as little as possible.

                      it was only later they realised it would be affected whatever they did that they then took action even then though not severely enough in my opinion. international travel should have been banned asap and even now should be on hold.

                      #136013
                      wmcforum
                      Which Mobility Car

                        I read that in the first lockdown Newcastle upon Tyne traffic levels were at 29% in the second lockdown in November 80%. In the first week of this lockdown they reduced to 70% as of yesterday they were at 79%.
                        I was shocked but not totally surprised.

                        #136014
                        Wigwam
                        Participant

                          A much easier decision for New Zealand of course as it’s not an international hub and air passenger numbers in and out were relatively low.

                          #136016
                          wmcforum
                          Which Mobility Car

                            I think it was a very difficult decision for New Zealand, a very brave one too.

                            Tourism to New Zealand:

                            Tourism generated a direct contribution to gross domestic product (GDP) of $16.2 billion, or 5.8 percent of GDP. The indirect value added of industries supporting tourism generated an additional $11.2 billion, or 4.0 percent of GDP.

                             

                             

                             

                            #136023
                            Avatar photoMike11

                              My uncle and his wife had the vaccine last Friday they are 80 and 79 years of algae they having next vaccine in 12 weeks my question is can I visit them in 13 weeks ? Not saw them for a year

                              #136033
                              mitch
                              Participant

                                as far as i can see, no the restrictions still apply wether youve had the jab or not.

                                any vacceine is not 100% and may only lesson symptoms etc.

                                #136038
                                Daf

                                  I believe you Wigwam lol!

                                  66% of patients in Welsh hospitals have covid and Critical care is at 152% of normal capacity. Believe me I have no intention to frighten people but 38% of those with covid in criticalcare will not survive.

                                  Please stay safe and take every precaution. Believe me you underestimate this illness at your peril, especially when the vaccine light is at the end of the tunnel

                                  #136061
                                  Tharg
                                  Participant

                                    Mitch, you say “the actions they [our politicians] took were tempered by them  wanting to affect the economy as little as possible.” I have to disagree. What they did – best described as “not enough” – was done to prevent them losing popularity, thus losing votes, not getting elected and losing their power. I believe that the health of the economy and/or the lives of our people mean nothing to them. They just want power at all costs.

                                    #136063
                                    Wigwam
                                    Participant

                                      Having climbed the greasy poll to get into parliament, every MP’s first aim is to ensure they stay there.  Those in safe seats can take a more objective view than the others, unless of course they are sucking up to the leadership for more advancement.  That leaves a very few who are really working for us, the electorate.

                                      And another consideration is that many of them are not very bright.

                                      #136154
                                      Wigwam
                                      Participant

                                        Why not to trust Public Health England’s death figures:

                                        “PHE has been counting all deaths in people who have laboratory-confirmed infection – this is technically robust because it does not require a judgement to be made about cause of death.”

                                        ONS figures are more accurate.

                                        Behind the headlines: Counting COVID-19 deaths

                                         

                                        #136164
                                        Brydo

                                          At some point the Government will need to answer as to why so many people have died/caught covid. Just now is not the right time, but soon.

                                          #136165
                                          Wigwam
                                          Participant

                                            #136169
                                            wmcforum
                                            Which Mobility Car

                                              I think your data is old and does not include the whole year. From the ONS website posted on the 12th January:

                                              Be careful out there Wigwam some people try to play with figures.

                                              #136171
                                              Wigwam
                                              Participant

                                                Thanks for the updated figures wmc. The deaths per 1000 population are the most informing. I’ll calculate them later.

                                                #136182
                                                Oscarmax
                                                Participant

                                                  The 85 year old lady next door has been called for her injection, 35 miles away in Birmingham, she rung our local surgery to see if she could get in done just down the road in Stafford, answer NO, we don’t deal with them, you will have to go to Cannock or Rugeley. Does not fill you with enthusiasm

                                                  Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                                  #136185
                                                  Brydo

                                                    father in law thought he was getting his jab next week, got a call this morning asking if he was coming to get his jab as he had missed his appointment.  He apologized and explained he had got mixed up with the dates, they told him to go down and he would get “fitted in”. So he got the Oxford vaccine and he will be contacted within 12 weeks for his second jab.

                                                    #136193
                                                    Tharg
                                                    Participant

                                                      Glad your father-in-law got sorted, Brydo. Weight off mind. Not much happening here (Sussex). Both next-door neighbours well north of 80 years. Heard nothing. GP still doing no face-to-face stuff. And he’s heard nothing about vaccinating from NHS.

                                                      Also, saw on Beeb this a.m. that pharmacies are doing jabs. Reporter in shop talking to “nurse” who wore only a nose/ mouth mask, No gloves. No apron. No visor. Moreover, around 20 folks in open perspex booths waiting to be seen to, few masks. You’d think the shop would try to get a workable appointment system working given the soaring rate of infections/deaths. Difficult, I know, but, well…

                                                      #136197
                                                      Brydo

                                                        My mothers GP have still to receive the vaccine so she is still waiting.

                                                      Viewing 25 replies - 1,051 through 1,075 (of 1,420 total)
                                                      • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.