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- September 26, 2025 at 11:42 am #313055
In reply to: Why are so many EV’s leaving the scheme lately.
Unfortunately the facts tell a different story. The Facts are that by 2030 there will be no ICE cars sold in the UK. The fact that EVERY year ICE sales are heavily taxed, and increasing as the countdown to 2030 approaches.
The standard VED rates for 2025/6 is now £195 regardless whether you have a zero emission car or a car with emissions producing over 255g/km. This does not account for the first year rate or cars that attract the luxury car tax from year 2 to 6, which now includes zero emission vehicles.
For ICE inc Hybrids, every litre of fuel purchased at the pump commands £0.53 fuel duty and 20% VAT. Come 2030 or whenever, the government will not say, well it was good whils’t it lasted the money pot will now shrink. They will look to applying similar duties to zero emission vehicles, in the same way, zero emission vehicles are now being charged VED at the standard rate and luxury car tax applies.
The initial date on the end of “new” ICE sales was 2030 across all of europe. The Tories then pushed the date back to 2035, after, it was confirmed mainland europe did so. Labour then came into power and moved the date forward to the orginal date of 203o. Although Labour will allow the sale of some new hybrids after 2030, this still puts the UK out of sync by 5 years with the mainland (EU) Regardless of what anyone thinks, this out of sync will pose a problem for the UK, as we import the majority of cars from the EU (the reason the Tories moved the date). Also EU manufacturers of pushing back transitioning to fully EV till closer to the end by date of 2035. Not only that, their has been talks going on for while in the EU, to push the date further back to 2040. Call me what you want, but the cynic in me, says Labour is playing the game to get people into zero emission vehicles, but as the clock approaches 2030, if still in power (doubtful), Labour will push back anf fall in line with the EU at the 11th hour.
Currently, as of the end of August 2025, there is approx 1,600,000 fully electric cars on UK roads., which rounds off to aroubd 4% market share, of which 3% sales are to lease and fleet companies. Thats a huge mountain to climb, to reach 34 million cars that are on our roads.
USED EV sales depreciation rates are much higher than equilulent ICE, which has also seen Motability impacted at 3yr lease end sell offs. Not only does this have a negative impact on AP’s, they are forced to follow government dreams, and by doing so Motability continue to subsidise EV’s.
Whether, it 2030, 2035 or 2040, ICE/Hybrid vehicles will continue to remain on or roads for many years after the ban on the sale of new ones. It goes without saying, that governments think us peasants are thick, yet we continue to find loop holes, to the laws they impose on us. Perhaps an on topic example of this is ULEZ, which has seen the continued uptake of Londoners buying older more polluting vehicles, that are exempt from the charges, simply because many can’t afford newer vehicles and will do what they can to avoid charges. This turns out to be a negative impact on what Khan first intended along with his money pot not, as full as firt thought. Even the City of London office, admitted Khans measures, will only extend a Londoners life by 15 minutes,whils’t at the same time making people poorer WOW! At the same time REE mining sees it’s surrounding villages and towns, buried in the waste, Cancer is ripe and the land and water polluted.
September 10, 2025 at 5:23 pm #312513In reply to: Long Term thread – Options for my next car
Had a look today around the new IM5. They’ll have the 6 available soon, it was supposed to be delivered at the same time, so they’re all excited waiting for it. First impressions were as expected. It’s very Tesla like in many ways, just as the model 3 is released in new version. It won’t stand out in a car park or win beauty contests but it’s a very functional hatchback. It has a proper boot door, meaning a proper access to the large boot. Doors open cleverly due to sensors in the handle that will pop the door open, you still need to pull the door to get in, so it’s really a ‘look at this’ feature rather than a properly useful one. Everything switches on as you get in showing the huge on dash screen that’s bigger than the two in the Ioniq5 but is one screen than separates into 2 for normal use. These are really clear screw so I guess they’re setup to a higher quality than most. The central screen does everything, with Apple CarPlay on the top screen, you can ignore that console screen whilst driving. There’s a row of buttons along the bottom including one for the aircon. There’s only 2 buttons on the comfortable (and heated) steering wheel, seats are comfortable enough, with plenty of space. I don’t think I’d want to be over 6ft tall and stuck in the back for an extended journey, legroom is fine but head room is very limited. The boot is long but if you’ve something tall to get in there, the room isn’t fantastic but you’d expect that just looking at the car. My first impression seated in the drivers seat is that I could really get on with driving that for a while, especially considering what I actually change once I’ve started driving. There’s a single screen with all the ADAS stuff and you can cancel all, which is awesome when you don’t want a mass of bings for everything. I’m definitely going back when they’ve the IM6 in, I’ll take pictures of that then. It’s really easy to get excited about these cars. There’s enough tech to keep you informed and to help with driving. We’re looking forward to sitting in the 6 and playing some music with 20 speakers supposedly setup up for full surround including “sky speakers”.
I expect they will be as popular as MG on our roads and depending on AP, they could be a popular option for scheme users.
September 10, 2025 at 4:12 pm #312510In reply to: Long Term thread – Options for my next car
Had a look today around the new IM5. They’ll have the 6 available soon, it was supposed to be delivered at the same time, so they’re all excited waiting for it.
First impressions were as expected. It’s very Tesla like in many ways, just as the model 3 is released in new version. It won’t stand out in a car park or win beauty contests but it’s a very functional hatchback. It has a proper boot door, meaning a proper access to the large boot. Doors open cleverly due to sensors in the handle that will pop the door open, you still need to pull the door to get in, so it’s really a ‘look at this’ feature rather than a properly useful one. Everything switches on as you get in showing the huge on dash screen that’s bigger than the two in the Ioniq5 but is one screen than separates into 2 for normal use. These are really clear screw so I guess they’re setup to a higher quality than most. The central screen does everything, with Apple CarPlay on the top screen, you can ignore that console screen whilst driving. There’s a row of buttons along the bottom including one for the aircon. There’s only 2 buttons on the comfortable (and heated) steering wheel, seats are comfortable enough, with plenty of space. I don’t think I’d want to be over 6ft tall and stuck in the back for an extended journey, legroom is fine but head room is very limited.
The boot is long but if you’ve something tall to get in there, the room isn’t fantastic but you’d expect that just looking at the car.
My first impression seated in the drivers seat is that I could really get on with driving that for a while, especially considering what I actually change once I’ve started driving. There’s a single screen with all the ADAS stuff and you can cancel all, which is awesome when you don’t want a mass of bings for everything.
I’m definitely going back when they’ve the IM6 in, I’ll take pictures of that then. It’s really easy to get excited about these cars. There’s enough tech to keep you informed and to help with driving. We’re looking forward to sitting in the 6 and playing some music with 20 speakers supposedly setup up for full surround including “sky speakers”.
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August 30, 2025 at 10:41 am #311995In reply to: Brace yourself. Further changes to extensions
Stupid question. If you reject the new terms and force Motability to take back the car, surely that can only result in you leaving the scheme?
The important point I’m making is Motability are slow at changing contracts, but expect users just to go along with it! A prime example of this was, when they changed the lease extension last time and expected scheme users just to roll over and go along with them yet, Motability were successfully challenged.
A contract is a contract. Any changes to that contrat mid term, require an ammended or new contract signed by both parties. If you disagree with the new terms, you can leave penalty free – i.e with Motability, that means not paying the penalty charge to leave the scheme.
Im struggling to find a legitimate way that the change to the contract was unacceptable but agreeing to a new one with the same terms you’ve just rejected is ok.
As previously noted, any change of contract mid term requires both parties to agree and sign, it protects both parties – ie my current contract states I can extend for a period of 24 months. Motability can say all they trhey want online, but unless it is signed by the user in writing or digitally, it’s deemed my existing contract still exists in law, therefore I am in my right to say I have not signed a new contract, therefore my existing contract still stands and would standup in a court of law. In this case it’s in Motability’s interest to get me sign the new/ammended contract. As above, If I choose to disagree and not sign, I can leave penalty free, therefore protecting my interests.
My point is, (a) contracts are important to protect both parties (b) Motability, the biggest leasing company, yet for such a large company, do not see the importance of making sure contracts are upto date with end users, thus leaving themselves wide open, in circimstances you mentioned when a user loads a car with option, expecting to keep it 5yrs cus, there contract says they can and they have the right in law to challenge that!
Personally, I can’t wait untill Motabilty try to push Drive Smart on under 30’s and older family members who also drive the car – There contract does not say they may be required to have a black box and I expect, if a new contract is forced upon them, they will (especially those without adaptions) choose not to agree with the new or ammended contract and hand their car back penalty free.
July 21, 2025 at 12:53 pm #309952In reply to: Lease ending and reapplying
You also have the option of extending your lease for 2 yrs to give you time to look around for a suitable replacement, you can order anytime you want then.
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2005 - 2017 Honda CRV Exec 2.0dJuly 13, 2025 at 11:36 am #309493In reply to: Head or heart?
Hello, for me my head and heart always been Volvo todate (4 months left on an extended 5yr lease)..
HOWEVER would I want another modern day Volvo, the answer is No…
Infact I’m seriously thinking of the Nissan hybrid e..
My Wife and I always had Volvos, almost all models and they’ve been great..
Im finding the XC40, small, slightly uncomfortable, expensive on fuel..
Reason for extension it’s transport and laziness on my part.
Oh yeah the elec boot cylinder thing has started leaking making a hell of a noise, never had this ever on much older cars…
That’s just my opinion and that’s just that, best of luck whatever you decide
June 26, 2025 at 6:10 pm #307232In reply to: why do advance payment increase every 3 months
Would extending the EV leases to 5 years smooth out the losses ?
Beat me to it. Yet they are getting tougher on extending past 3 years. But then a car might be on 100k miles, instead of 60k 3 years. How many use the full allowance though. It’s clear though that the main losses are from cars they bought 3 years ago at inflated prices. They profited then, but didn’t see that the bubble would burst as many suggested it would. As it was born out of a lack of supply, coupled with higher costs for manufacturing and the needed microchips. Plus more competition from the east. Yes EV’s play a part as Technology moves on and leaves those older cars less desirable mainly Imo down to there slow charging time and speeds. What will happen when 800v are the norm, who will want 400v, unless that’s all they can afford. The average EV loses 1.8% range each year, which isn’t bad and is expected. So in 10 years 18% if looked after. Personally I’d never buy an EV at this moment in time any many are just leasing them. Those leasing companies are going to feel this also, as will many others effected by green policies. As for ice as there are less and less being sold each year and the next due to government levels. Used values will rise on them due to lack of availability and a higher demand for them than supply. There is a cost to climate change polices and that’s losing huge money on the transition being forced upon us all. how it all falls and plays out in the end who knows. Ultimately its us the consumer and tax payer who foots the bill.
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June 13, 2025 at 4:29 pm #306564Topic: Motability Miscalculating of the Good Condition Bonus
in forum ForumHas anyone else had problems with Motability miscalculating the Good Condition Bonus for a lease of over 5 years.
Ihave had my Kia Optima estate for 6 and a half year, due mostly to unforeseen major health issues of ( seizures and a stroke in Jan 24 ) plus car cancelling and ordering in 2024 .
When I extended my lease in 2021 from 3 year’s to 5 year’s the GCB had gone up to £900 for 5 year’s. However Motability decided to pay(everyone ?) £350 in advance few year back and said that they would pay the other £550 at the end of the contract (assuming the car qualified at the time).
When I went to pick up my new Skoda Superb estate and return my Kia Optima estate, my dealer said that my car would qualify for the full GCB and I should get the remaining £550 GCB in a few days(his words).
However I received an email saying that I was rewarded the GCB of the remaining £250.
When I phoned Motability, they insisted that the GCB was now £250 and it did not matter what the original agreement was, as they could change it and I could not speak to anyone more senior and it ended up like having a conversation with the speaking clock. They have now sent me a form to complain to the ombudsman.
My dealer says he thinks that the £550 was on his screen, but obviously didn’t want to get too involved. Has anyone else had a similar recent problem.
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May 5, 2025 at 10:52 pm #305169In reply to: New car order vs old car handback date
There’s no need to panic. Once a new car has been ordered they can keep their existing car for as long as it takes for the new one to arrive – even if that’s 6 months or more. The insurance will be extended and the car can be serviced and MOT’d as normal. It must have a valid MOT when it reaches 3 years old, but when it’s eventually handed back it can have as little as 1 day MOT remaining. They can even extend the current lease by 3 months if they want to take their time choosing their next car. This might be useful as cars ordered in haste often turn out to be poor choices.
Thanks will pass this onto them it will probably come at a relief they thought they made have only gotten a 90 day extension or been left without a car till the new one arrives
I’ll also let them know about that extension they have a few requirements based on their current car so having that extra time would probably do them a world of good and make it as stress free as possible for them
May 5, 2025 at 9:58 pm #305165In reply to: New car order vs old car handback date
There’s no need to panic. Once a new car has been ordered they can keep their existing car for as long as it takes for the new one to arrive – even if that’s 6 months or more. The insurance will be extended and the car can be serviced and MOT’d as normal. It must have a valid MOT when it reaches 3 years old, but when it’s eventually handed back it can have as little as 1 day MOT remaining. They can even extend the current lease by 3 months if they want to take their time choosing their next car. This might be useful as cars ordered in haste often turn out to be poor choices.
May 5, 2025 at 9:48 pm #305163Topic: New car order vs old car handback date
in forum ForumNeeding some advice/input here not for me personally but a relative
Their motab car is due to be returned at the end of this month but because of a recent NIP and wanting to make sure everything is above board and correct for insurance etc they’ve not ordered their car
The FPN has now been dealt with but should they order their new car this week but it has a lead time of say 3 – 4 month pushing it past the end of lease handback date will they be left without a car or will motab extend it till their new car is ready even if it leaves it with around 6 months left on the current MOT
Their obviously concerned and don’t want to be rushed into any car because it will be there within the end lease time frame
Any advice or knowledge within this would be advantageous as I can then pass it on tia
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May 5, 2025 at 8:54 am #305119In reply to: EV Prices – Where To?
Here’s my thoughts. Tesla is, unfortunately, still relevant as every media reviewer will compare against the relevant model. If they dropped £5k off a price that would make a huge difference to prices for other manufacturers models that did compete. If that happens then the resale value drops further and Motability are currently looking at rather depressing resale values. The media are looking at second hand EVs. I’ve seen more articles about ownership of used EVs and the reliability towards and beyond the 8 year/100,000 mile age. As communication improves around ownership of used EVs then that market will improve. Again, as more people have older EVs and don’t have major issues, then others will see that the old stories of batteries needing expensive replacement just as the warranty runs out aren’t so true. There are some nice cars hitting the market that aren’t yet on scheme and could be if the manufacturer wants the numbers. KIA, for example, have a number of really nice EV models that are genuinely built as EV which makes for the best EV experience. They aren’t offering much on the scheme but if they work out that sticking all EV* models on the scheme will improve their balance and get them either close to or over quotas. For people seeking smaller cars, that seems to be the direction the market is taking over the next year, with a lot of city cars coming in under retail of £20-25k and some even targeting the teens. If space isn’t your requirement, these could see zero APs and less than full benefit on an EV. Citroen are looking at updating their models this year, following Peugeot’s and Vauxhall’s updates there will be their versions of the 2008,3008,5008 released.
Talking about Tesla have you seen the used market insane prices for a 4/5 year old Tesla with 60,000 miles on the clock, if they don’t extend my lease I many seriously consider a used Tesla.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
April 24, 2025 at 3:37 pm #304723In reply to: Want to extend lease
I have just got of the phone from Motability yes the limit is 20,000 over the 3 year lease, however if it only 1,000 or 2,000 miles over they are not going to object, if it was 24,000 plus that may be a case by case decision.
Thanks for updating. Interesting that the 20,000 mile cap for an extension is still in force (as we weren’t sure) but odd that the wording of the new leases still says that it can be extended beyond 3 years, with no caveat about mileage. Left hand….right hand!
If you have substantial modifications the 24 months extension still stands, our lease vehicle has no modifications
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April 23, 2025 at 4:42 pm #304663In reply to: Want to extend lease
I’m approaching the end of my lease in 3 months, and I wanted to extend it further for a year or two. I got the car in 2022, and at the time, there was no mention of a mileage maximum of 20,000 if you wanna extend the lease. My car is actually on 34,000 miles, and I’m not sure what’s the best thing to do here. The car is under-25, and there are barely any good options for under-25s so it’s practically pointless to get a new car. What’s the best way to go about extending without immediate refusal due to mileage? I believe it’s legally wrong of them to suddenly add a rule which wasn’t a part of the contract signed
In theory you should be able to extend your lease, but lets see what happens we are in the same position next year see post wmcforum December 31 2023 8.30am quote 252748
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April 23, 2025 at 11:03 am #304647In reply to: Want to extend lease
Hello @reallyjuiced2 This is a topic that has been well discussed in the forum. A search on the topic brings up the following. I am sure you will find it useful.
https://forum.whichmobilitycar.co.uk/forums/search/Want+to+extend+lease/
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Coming soon...BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In November 2025April 23, 2025 at 8:28 am #304633Topic: Want to extend lease
in forum ForumI’m approaching the end of my lease in 3 months, and I wanted to extend it further for a year or two. I got the car in 2022, and at the time, there was no mention of a mileage maximum of 20,000 if you wanna extend the lease.
My car is actually on 34,000 miles, and I’m not sure what’s the best thing to do here. The car is under-25, and there are barely any good options for under-25s so it’s practically pointless to get a new car. What’s the best way to go about extending without immediate refusal due to mileage? I believe it’s legally wrong of them to suddenly add a rule which wasn’t a part of the contract signed
March 14, 2025 at 10:38 pm #299467In reply to: Lease extension refused
This whole thing is a mess of Motability’s making.
Up until a year ago, anybody could extend a 3 year lease for up to 2 years. The policy then changed so that anyone could extend for 3 months, but anything longer would only be allowed if the car had done under 20,000 miles over 3 years or had significant adaptations. In typical Motability fashion, this change was slipped in under the radar with zero communication.
I enquired about extending the lease on our BMW last year and Motability refused as the car had done 27,000 miles and had no adaptations. However, I challenged this on the basis that the contract stated that we could, and there had been no communication that this had changed. I pointed out that a contract cannot be varied mid term without both parties agreeing to it or, if it was being imposed, giving us the right to terminate the lease early without penalty, neither of which had happened. At this point they backed down and agreed to the extension (although, ironically, we didn’t need it in the end)!
Motability are still in a mess with this issue though, for two reasons. Firstly, some people are finding that they can extend the lease through their Motability account (we didn’t have that option – I checked) and secondly new leases that commenced after the policy change are still being used with the old wording, saying that 24 month extensions are possible (with no mileage or adaptation criteria stated).
In summary, if you want to extend then I’d suggest making the points that I made.
February 22, 2025 at 7:08 am #298148In reply to: Price changes have gone to the extreme!
We have our own formula
(a) How much do you like it and want it,
(b) How much are you willing to pay,
(c) Can I afford it
(d) And the biggy what does the wife say (it overrules all of the above)
Our last car Suzuki Across PHEV £6,999 did we pay too much of course we did, the sensible thing to do was extend our existing Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV lease, but I just wanted one shame the AP dropped nearly £2,000 afterwards, that life.
Our next car will I pay over the odds for the car I want, at the moment I say no, however when the time comes let’s see.
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February 20, 2025 at 4:30 pm #298050Topic: MG HS Trophy, Mazda CX5, CX30 or Vauxhall Grandland?
in forum ForumReally could do with some help as I’ve read so many mixed reviews I’m completely confused!
Ideally I wanted a large SUV (not electric) but the APs are too high. Currently in a Mitsubishi Outlander and dreading losing the space I have now but they already extended my lease past the 6 year mark and have to choose something quickly. The cheapest suitable option i could find was the new Vauxhall Grandland either mid or top spec although I really wasn’t keen on Vauxhall, but it does have a nice sized boot which i need.
I love Mazda but keep getting told they are really bad on fuel .. does anyone have experience with fuel consumption on the CX5 or CX30? Or opinions on the car itself?
My other option was the MG HS Trophy, but again I’m told it’s terrible on fuel and very unreliable, but I dont know if that’s changed since they updated the model?
Thanks
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February 12, 2025 at 3:34 pm #297571Topic: Boot Hoist Lease Extension?
in forum ForumAnyone had experience of extending the lease using the adaptations clause?
Apparently if the car is heavily adapted you may be able to keep it longer. We are thinking of fitting a boot hoist, but at £1500 we’d probably want to keep the car longer, especially the way AP’s are going. We’re 6 months into a new lease.
February 8, 2025 at 9:54 am #297315In reply to: Motability vs Alternative
Hmmmm. An interesting debate that always polarises opinions. Some people insist that it’s always cheaper to run a car through the scheme and I know from experience that this isn’t true. Big Dave has given an excellent response and, like him, I have experience of running cars inside and outside the scheme (even at the same time!), so will happily share my experience and views.
Before I do that, your numbers make sense but your assumed insurance premiums seem ridiculously high. I know that EVs are very expensive to insure due to high repair costs and resultant higher likelihood of write offs, but do you live in a very high risk area? Also, keep in mind that many insurers will honour no-claims history as a Motability driver, which can bring premiums down significantly. You also need to factor in servicing costs. Breakdown cover can usually be ignored, as can repairs, as these will both be covered under a 3 year warranty. As for a Motability car, you should assume a 3 year lease, not 4 years. There is a strong chance (given your high mileage) that Motability will not allow you to extend beyond 3 years due to their new policy. Finally, as Big Dave says, you have to factor in the cost of finance (if needed) and loss of interest (if capital used).
Now to my experience. Some years ago, we took out a lease (through Motability) on a VW Tiguan 2.0 TDi for my wife. APs at the time were less than half what they are now. At the same time I ordered (privately) a brand new BMW 5 Series (520d Luxury Auto – same price as an M-Sport). I had gone to look at a 12 month old M-Sport but it had sold and the dealer said that they could get me a brand new one for a similar price. I added £10k worth of options to a factory ordered new car, but managed to negotiate a 25% discount, which effectively wiped out the cost of all the options. This hefty discount was the combined result of 3 separate discounts. A BMW discount, a dealer discount and a BMW Financial Services discount by taking out a PCP. However, I didn’t need finance so used a loophole that I have used several times before (including with VW), in that I took out the finance deal to get the extra discount, but one month after taking delivery I paid off the balance in full. In return for about £30 interest, I was able to keep the entire (many thousands £) finance discount. It’s a no brainer.
Fast forward 4 years and I sold the BMW privately and I worked out my total ownership costs. The biggest cost is always depreciation (although helped by the fact that I’d got 25% off up front). I had no servicing costs as I’d negotiated a servicing plan as part of the purchase. Other than servicing, there had only been a couple of minor issues that were sorted under warranty, free of charge. Breakdown cover, whilst never needed, was provided under the warranty. Insurance (fully comp) averaged about £300 a year (I was working at the time, so it included commuting). I only replaced 2 tyres over the 4 years.
Once I had my grand total ownership costs, I compared the average annual costs against the annual cost of the Motability car and was staggered to find that the Motability Tiguan had cost us more to run than the significantly better (in every respect, other than 4WD) 5 Series. As I say, this was before Motability APs went out of control, but on the flip side, I didn’t need finance so had no finance costs (which would have given a different result). I would have happily paid a lot more per month for the far superior BMW, but in reality had paid less.
Fast forward to today and we are now retired and down to one car – a Motability supplied PHEV. I wanted to try a PHEV and they don’t make financial sense to buy privately, but 6 months in and I’m not sure that they make much sense as a lease car either 😂 . At present, we aren’t interested in an EV, as real world ranges are too low (and we do far less mileage than you!), so next time we may well leave the scheme and revert to a petrol car, but this would be a second hand car of the type that is not available through the scheme (such as a BMW X5). Whilst I can afford a new car, I’m just not prepared to pay the ludicrously high prices that decent ones are these days.
However, if we were in the market for an EV I would get one through Motability, even if the finances made a private one cheaper. The EV market, both new and (particularly) used is in turmoil as private buyers don’t want them. Many reasons but I guess the principle ones being high upfront costs, poor real world ranges, poor (and very expensive) public charging infrastructure, appalling residual values, high insurance costs and (for millions of people) the inability to charge at home.
So, in summary, my view would be that if you want a good quality petrol or diesel car, it’s probably best to go down the private route, but if you want an EV the risks swing it in favour of Motability. I appreciate that this only works if you are happy to be limited to what Motabilty allows, which doesn’t include a Jag. However, the Enyaq seems to be one of the best EVs on the market and may well be even better than the Jag!
Hope that all helps, although I doubt it does 😂
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February 5, 2025 at 4:57 pm #297102We have just taken delivery of our new car 01/02/25 and received the contact in the post this morning. Which says the same as the last one 3 years ago.
That we can extend for another 24 month, as posted.
This is good for us, given the recent increase in AP’s, as we would like to have the choice of extending the lease after 3 years, or choosing another car
rather than not being able to extend the lease, and being forced to leave or choose a car that we don’t want. Due to poor choice, or high AP.
December 17, 2024 at 9:19 am #295086In reply to: Financial crisis looming for Motability?
Apparently, the new policy (as explained to me by Motability) is that 5 year extensions are now only available if you have done a maximum of 20,000 miles over the 3 years or have adaptations. Everyone can extend for 3 months, regardless of mileage. However, they don’t appear to have told their website and a number of forum contributors have been able to click to accept a 5 year lease even when these criteria don’t apply! Strangely, I didn’t have that option online, but I got Motability to authorise an extension by challenging the fact that they’d changed the rules mid lease. It was a point of principle really, as I didn’t want to keep a car for 5 years!
We may be in a similar position in August 2026, we signed our lease August 2023 before the contract changes.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
December 16, 2024 at 8:13 pm #295073In reply to: Financial crisis looming for Motability?
Apparently, the new policy (as explained to me by Motability) is that 5 year extensions are now only available if you have done a maximum of 20,000 miles over the 3 years or have adaptations. Everyone can extend for 3 months, regardless of mileage. However, they don’t appear to have told their website and a number of forum contributors have been able to click to accept a 5 year lease even when these criteria don’t apply! Strangely, I didn’t have that option online, but I got Motability to authorise an extension by challenging the fact that they’d changed the rules mid lease. It was a point of principle really, as I didn’t want to keep a car for 5 years!
December 12, 2024 at 6:57 am #294864In reply to: Financial crisis looming for Motability?
Never been a fan of extended lease, due to the additional cost of sacrified benifits, which currently would be over £17k + AP for 5yrs, so don’t know where I’d stand if it became mandatory across the board.
Agree 100%. One of the few remaining attractions of Motability for me is the ability to get a new car every 3 years. As you say, a 5 year lease adds around £8k to the cost, in order to run a 4-5 year old car, which does not appeal and would tip the balance back in favour of running a private car in my case. I do appreciate though that for those who would be unable (or unwilling) to run a car privately it helps spread a high AP over a longer period, so I’d have no objection to it becoming an option again for those who want it, but if it became a standard thing then it would push some of us away from the scheme.
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Has anyone else had problems with Motability miscalculating the Good Condition Bonus for a lease of over 5 years.
Ihave had my Kia Optima estate for 6 and a half year, due mostly to unforeseen major health issues of ( seizures and a stroke in Jan 24 ) plus car cancelling and ordering in 2024 .
When I extended my lease in 2021 from 3 year’s to 5 year’s the GCB had gone up to £900 for 5 year’s. However Motability decided to pay(everyone ?) £350 in advance few year back and said that they would pay the other £550 at the end of the contract (assuming the car qualified at the time).
When I went to pick up my new Skoda Superb estate and return my Kia Optima estate, my dealer said that my car would qualify for the full GCB and I should get the remaining £550 GCB in a few days(his words).
However I received an email saying that I was rewarded the GCB of the remaining £250.
When I phoned Motability, they insisted that the GCB was now £250 and it did not matter what the original agreement was, as they could change it and I could not speak to anyone more senior and it ended up like having a conversation with the speaking clock. They have now sent me a form to complain to the ombudsman.
My dealer says he thinks that the £550 was on his screen, but obviously didn’t want to get too involved. Has anyone else had a similar recent problem.
Needing some advice/input here not for me personally but a relative
Their motab car is due to be returned at the end of this month but because of a recent NIP and wanting to make sure everything is above board and correct for insurance etc they’ve not ordered their car
The FPN has now been dealt with but should they order their new car this week but it has a lead time of say 3 – 4 month pushing it past the end of lease handback date will they be left without a car or will motab extend it till their new car is ready even if it leaves it with around 6 months left on the current MOT
Their obviously concerned and don’t want to be rushed into any car because it will be there within the end lease time frame
Any advice or knowledge within this would be advantageous as I can then pass it on tia
Topic: Want to extend lease
I’m approaching the end of my lease in 3 months, and I wanted to extend it further for a year or two. I got the car in 2022, and at the time, there was no mention of a mileage maximum of 20,000 if you wanna extend the lease.
My car is actually on 34,000 miles, and I’m not sure what’s the best thing to do here. The car is under-25, and there are barely any good options for under-25s so it’s practically pointless to get a new car. What’s the best way to go about extending without immediate refusal due to mileage? I believe it’s legally wrong of them to suddenly add a rule which wasn’t a part of the contract signed
Really could do with some help as I’ve read so many mixed reviews I’m completely confused!
Ideally I wanted a large SUV (not electric) but the APs are too high. Currently in a Mitsubishi Outlander and dreading losing the space I have now but they already extended my lease past the 6 year mark and have to choose something quickly. The cheapest suitable option i could find was the new Vauxhall Grandland either mid or top spec although I really wasn’t keen on Vauxhall, but it does have a nice sized boot which i need.
I love Mazda but keep getting told they are really bad on fuel .. does anyone have experience with fuel consumption on the CX5 or CX30? Or opinions on the car itself?
My other option was the MG HS Trophy, but again I’m told it’s terrible on fuel and very unreliable, but I dont know if that’s changed since they updated the model?
Thanks
M
Topic: Boot Hoist Lease Extension?
Anyone had experience of extending the lease using the adaptations clause?
Apparently if the car is heavily adapted you may be able to keep it longer. We are thinking of fitting a boot hoist, but at £1500 we’d probably want to keep the car longer, especially the way AP’s are going. We’re 6 months into a new lease.