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Here’s the starting point for me deciding what my next car will be. I’ve some set criteria:
Electric – if you don’t like them, good for you but this will be my 4th, I’m not going back now.
Comfortable seats – Both myself and my wife have spinal issues, sitting on the wrong chairs can be incredibly painful and rather quickly too. I’d hate to have a car that I can only drive locally because after half an hour I can’t actually get out of the damn thing. Heating and Cooling seats would be good, heated is essential though, it’s amazing how that can help the back.
Electric tailgate – again with the back issues, stretching up to pull a boot door down, especially if the gas struts put up some resistance, is a problem.
HUD – I’ve gotten used to it now, I can’t remember the last time I looked at the dash to see how fast I’m going.
Wireless Apple Carplay – Pretty much all I listen to is on the phone, it’s either music or audio books but I rarely listen to the radio as it’s usually crap down here.
As you can imagine the current selection is rather lengthy. I’ve barely began whittling them down so here we go, in no particular order:
Ioniq 5
Enyaq
Elroq
Capri (I know but it’s not a bad car)
Grandland
Scenic
Mach E
Ariya
Budget depends on just how much I can save, which means it won’t be excessive, so that will drop a lot off the list. Currently to replace what I have, thanks to the model changes, would cost something around £6.5k, which isn’t happening. If I could save that in 3 years, I’d be much richer than I am in reality.
Front runners based on budget and equipment are either of the Skodas and the Scenic at the moment. I don’t care about the Elroq dropping off the scheme next quarter, it’ll be back before it matters to me. I’m still hoping the EV3 comes onto scheme and sticks around, that’d be a nice option, although I expect KIA pricing will put it higher than the Fords.
I’ve learnt some lessons from my last search, so the infamous spreadsheet is being updated each quarter, with a new tab holding the new quarter’s pricing and leaving previous quarters for reference. I’m hoping this may provide some interesting insights once the car is chosen, looking at where prices and models have come/gone.
I’ll update as I start to whittle out some options and as new quarters add a new perspective on the search. If there’s anything anyone wishes to add, I’m always open to opinions.
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Oh I am not looking at this likely, the main issue is Hyundai have restricted the amount a device can api check the car, because of 12v issues (you just have to search ioniq 5 12v issues) as my charger handled talking to ovo I never had to worry.. the beta for my car with ovo is just the car talking to it and giving hyundais restriction on this its a scary prospect.
on the 12v this is hyundais response (after about 8 so called fixes for owners globaly that clearly have not worked as I have had issue since last update).
Blue Link Usage:
Hyundai has identified that some third-party apps accessing the Ioniq 5’s Blue Link system too frequently can drain the 12V battery. (examples of which have been energy, companies, dongles, and other software accessing the api)ICCU:
blown fuse or faulty ICCU
Car sitting for too long:
there is quite a list they blame, basically rule of the thumb with this car is if you own it carry a battery jump pack with you). which luckily I did.
I had a thought today, sat waiting for my wife and daughter to finish shopping.
Most of my cars have been of a standard height, or near enough. The ZS was taller than the Ioniq 5 is but it was never what I felt a proper SUV to feel like, probably because it’s a cheap Chinese crossover thing.
So I thought I’d have a look through the Motability list and see what was bigger and quickly came to the conclusion that they’ve really made it impossible to see what’s what. Three cars side by side, all with pictures, the Astra, Ariya and Mach E. It was obvious that the larger picture for the Astra suggested it was the shortest car but you’d be forgiven for thinking the Mach E and Ariya stand at the same height. All because they’ve created thumbnails of x millimetres in height.
So, maybe I want a proper SUV, if my budget allows. Unfortunately, SUVs with batteries and motors, no engines here please, powered boot and really comfortable seats big enough for 5 if necessary don’t seem to come with affordable. Think something around Enyaq money.
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i use this site to compare car sizes, it gives a rough idea as to which will be suitable and which to disgard.
i use this site to compare car sizes, it gives a rough idea as to which will be suitable and which to disgard. https://www.automobiledimension.com/car-comparison.php
That’s very useful, thanks. I found Carsized through another thread on here years ago but it only compares 2 cars and that can be a touch wearing when you’re trying to size up a list.
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I’ve been looking at what’s coming over the next few months. The KIA PV5 could be an interesting prospect but I can’t see it being cheap if it gets to the scheme. Likewise the Ioniq 9 has been released and is a 7 seater SUV/EV, which is huge just like it’s sister the EV9. I’m equally not sure if it’ll get to scheme.
Ones more likely to get there and attracting some attention are MG’s selections. There’s a MGS6 which will be HS sized SUV but electric. They’re also releasing imminently the IM5 and IM6 with cars hitting dealerships in the next month. These are directly aimed at Tesla, both model 3 and Y, but will be available at all MG dealerships, so will be more likely to hit the scheme. There are reviews on YouTube, to give us all an idea and a look at what’s inside and, to some extent, how it drives.
The IM5 looks like it’s targeted directly at the Model3, mostly because it looks rather similar and is equally rapid. The IM6, with it’s Model Y sizing, is really beginning to appeal. I need to see it in person, which will happen before too long, but looking at all the specs (which is very high as standard and doesn’t increase as you step up the range) there’s an awful lot of tech in this car.
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I’m just over 1/2 way through my Enyaq lease but still looking for what’ll be next. Realistically it’s about 15 months until I can order so around October next year.
I’m fairly limited by my height and mobility issues, I need something tall enough to get into so at least 1.6m or better. I’m definetly staying with a full EV so another Enyaq would of course fit, the Elroq as well or maybe the ford Explorer. The Toyota BZ4x and Nissan Ariya are non-starters, couldn’t even get into the toyota due to the height/shape of the opening and floor height, the Nissan was far too cramped inside with the steering wheel hitting my legs and my head hitting the roof lining!, weirdly both of those are 2 or 3cm taller than my current Enyaq!
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
I’m just over 1/2 way through my Enyaq lease but still looking for what’ll be next. Realistically it’s about 15 months until I can order so around October next year. I’m fairly limited by my height and mobility issues, I need something tall enough to get into so at least 1.6m or better. I’m definetly staying with a full EV so another Enyaq would of course fit, the Elroq as well or maybe the ford Explorer. The Toyota BZ4x and Nissan Ariya are non-starters, couldn’t even get into the toyota due to the height/shape of the opening and floor height, the Nissan was far too cramped inside with the steering wheel hitting my legs and my head hitting the roof lining!, weirdly both of those are 2 or 3cm taller than my current Enyaq!
I had a look around the new shape Enyaq today, it’s much better spec’d and still rather comfortable a place to be. We sat in the standard Edition, with it’s driver’s electric/massaging seat and electric tailgate it’s got a lot of what we see as essential from standard, the addition of the Advance pack brings in the HUD which I’ve gotten really used to having.
I still like the Ariya but the version with everything we need is rather expensive. The Toyota isn’t a viable option, purely because it’s a Toyota. There’s too many manufacturers who seem to think offering the base model at a huge AP is perfectly acceptable. They should understand the benefit certain features have on those with mobility and movement issues. Not reaching to pull down a heavy tailgate is a life saver when you’re barely able to stand after being in the car too long. Having large and comfortable seats for those of us who take up that little bit more space but also have lower back/leg issues can make the difference between being able to get around town, just, and being able to travel longer distances, forget the hassle of charging, there’s the hassle of having to get out of the car every hour because you’re back has been complaining for the last 10 minutes.
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Quite agree 🙂
Went down to Bridlington in a friends Jag (E Pace I think) and after 2 and a bit hours I was really glad to get out of it!. I don’t do many trips that long, last one was Manchester Airport when I had the Ateca, that was OK.
The Enyaq, so far, I’ve not driven for over about 2 hours and again it’s pretty comfortable with no major issues. Looks like I’m driving to Glasgow and back in October, taking my daughter to see an Australian comedy Pod Cast/TV thing called “Aunty Donna”. That’ll be about 2+ hours each way so I’ll see how that goes!.
As for the Jag …. coming back the A171 was closed between Scarborough and Whitby so we were U-Turned back to Scarborough!, then across to Thirsk and up the A19 to Durham, a total of 4-1/2 hours!. Luckily we had a stop on the way so I could get out and recover a bit!, still completely bushed when I go thome though. Needless to say a Jag is not on my list of possible cars!
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Had a look today around the new IM5. They’ll have the 6 available soon, it was supposed to be delivered at the same time, so they’re all excited waiting for it.
First impressions were as expected. It’s very Tesla like in many ways, just as the model 3 is released in new version. It won’t stand out in a car park or win beauty contests but it’s a very functional hatchback. It has a proper boot door, meaning a proper access to the large boot. Doors open cleverly due to sensors in the handle that will pop the door open, you still need to pull the door to get in, so it’s really a ‘look at this’ feature rather than a properly useful one. Everything switches on as you get in showing the huge on dash screen that’s bigger than the two in the Ioniq5 but is one screen than separates into 2 for normal use. These are really clear screw so I guess they’re setup to a higher quality than most. The central screen does everything, with Apple CarPlay on the top screen, you can ignore that console screen whilst driving. There’s a row of buttons along the bottom including one for the aircon. There’s only 2 buttons on the comfortable (and heated) steering wheel, seats are comfortable enough, with plenty of space. I don’t think I’d want to be over 6ft tall and stuck in the back for an extended journey, legroom is fine but head room is very limited.
The boot is long but if you’ve something tall to get in there, the room isn’t fantastic but you’d expect that just looking at the car.
My first impression seated in the drivers seat is that I could really get on with driving that for a while, especially considering what I actually change once I’ve started driving. There’s a single screen with all the ADAS stuff and you can cancel all, which is awesome when you don’t want a mass of bings for everything.
I’m definitely going back when they’ve the IM6 in, I’ll take pictures of that then. It’s really easy to get excited about these cars. There’s enough tech to keep you informed and to help with driving. We’re looking forward to sitting in the 6 and playing some music with 20 speakers supposedly setup up for full surround including “sky speakers”.
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Had a look today around the new IM5. They’ll have the 6 available soon, it was supposed to be delivered at the same time, so they’re all excited waiting for it. First impressions were as expected. It’s very Tesla like in many ways, just as the model 3 is released in new version. It won’t stand out in a car park or win beauty contests but it’s a very functional hatchback. It has a proper boot door, meaning a proper access to the large boot. Doors open cleverly due to sensors in the handle that will pop the door open, you still need to pull the door to get in, so it’s really a ‘look at this’ feature rather than a properly useful one. Everything switches on as you get in showing the huge on dash screen that’s bigger than the two in the Ioniq5 but is one screen than separates into 2 for normal use. These are really clear screw so I guess they’re setup to a higher quality than most. The central screen does everything, with Apple CarPlay on the top screen, you can ignore that console screen whilst driving. There’s a row of buttons along the bottom including one for the aircon. There’s only 2 buttons on the comfortable (and heated) steering wheel, seats are comfortable enough, with plenty of space. I don’t think I’d want to be over 6ft tall and stuck in the back for an extended journey, legroom is fine but head room is very limited. The boot is long but if you’ve something tall to get in there, the room isn’t fantastic but you’d expect that just looking at the car. My first impression seated in the drivers seat is that I could really get on with driving that for a while, especially considering what I actually change once I’ve started driving. There’s a single screen with all the ADAS stuff and you can cancel all, which is awesome when you don’t want a mass of bings for everything. I’m definitely going back when they’ve the IM6 in, I’ll take pictures of that then. It’s really easy to get excited about these cars. There’s enough tech to keep you informed and to help with driving. We’re looking forward to sitting in the 6 and playing some music with 20 speakers supposedly setup up for full surround including “sky speakers”.
I expect they will be as popular as MG on our roads and depending on AP, they could be a popular option for scheme users.
Intended for fleet use, it seems bound for the scheme but you never know. The IM6 they have coming is the Launch Edition, which is the dual motor of the performance with air suspension added, I think. It’ll be ridiculously fast, 700+HP 0-62 in 3.2 seconds. Useless on British roads but the sales staff are desperate to take it out. I think we’re most likely to get the Long Range version with a 100kWh battery and single motor.
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Finally got a Quick Look at the IM6. Very similar to the IM5 but somewhat taller.
I had the opportunity to sit inside but the sales guy was somewhat grumpy. On the positive side, the ‘vegan leather’ was incredibly plush and those seats are very comfortable. I will need to spend more time in one, though, as the headrest was far too far forward. It felt like the headrest was pushing my chin into my chest.
One thing that’s very clear and could be interesting for some shorter people. There’s a lot of car between the outside and the edge of the seat. It’s a couple of inches further that the Ioniq 5 and with a slightly higher seat, I can see some people not reaching the floor. I did find it harder to stand as my feet were a little too far infront of me.
I’ll wait for my usual dealership to get the 6 and spend a touch more time with one. I’m really interested to see just what the 20 speaker surround sound system sounds like. With a tweeter in the roof just inches from my head, I’ve doubts.
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I’m also looking at similar cars. Currently drive Nissan Ariya- have looked at the Ariya again alongside the Skoda Enyaq. Does anyone have any comments about the Audi Q4? Appreciate it has an eye watering AP
Finally got a Quick Look at the IM6. Very similar to the IM5 but somewhat taller. I had the opportunity to sit inside but the sales guy was somewhat grumpy. On the positive side, the ‘vegan leather’ was incredibly plush and those seats are very comfortable. I will need to spend more time in one, though, as the headrest was far too far forward. It felt like the headrest was pushing my chin into my chest. One thing that’s very clear and could be interesting for some shorter people. There’s a lot of car between the outside and the edge of the seat. It’s a couple of inches further that the Ioniq 5 and with a slightly higher seat, I can see some people not reaching the floor. I did find it harder to stand as my feet were a little too far infront of me. I’ll wait for my usual dealership to get the 6 and spend a touch more time with one. I’m really interested to see just what the 20 speaker surround sound system sounds like. With a tweeter in the roof just inches from my head, I’ve doubts.
My 3 month window opens next month and I’m really hoping the IM5 or 6 comes on because at the moment I’m struggling to find something that I like and fits my needs.
I’m also looking at similar cars. Currently drive Nissan Ariya- have looked at the Ariya again alongside the Skoda Enyaq. Does anyone have any comments about the Audi Q4? Appreciate it has an eye watering AP
I also have the Ariya and to be honest I wouldn’t have another what with the problems and the crap customer services from Nissan and the dealer.
I keep looking at the Audi Q4 and yes it’s expensive compared to the Skoda for basically the same car with less kit but it does look so much nicer. I’m also looking at the Cupra Tavascan and I’m hoping the Cupra Born comes back on .
Finally got a Quick Look at the IM6. Very similar to the IM5 but somewhat taller. I had the opportunity to sit inside but the sales guy was somewhat grumpy. On the positive side, the ‘vegan leather’ was incredibly plush and those seats are very comfortable. I will need to spend more time in one, though, as the headrest was far too far forward. It felt like the headrest was pushing my chin into my chest. One thing that’s very clear and could be interesting for some shorter people. There’s a lot of car between the outside and the edge of the seat. It’s a couple of inches further that the Ioniq 5 and with a slightly higher seat, I can see some people not reaching the floor. I did find it harder to stand as my feet were a little too far infront of me. I’ll wait for my usual dealership to get the 6 and spend a touch more time with one. I’m really interested to see just what the 20 speaker surround sound system sounds like. With a tweeter in the roof just inches from my head, I’ve doubts.
Did you notice if the 20 speaker system is Dynaudio (Chinese, but was high end Danish)? Though, as you know, in reality it can say what ever brand it wants on the grill, but the actual speaker/s can be cheap tat. The joys of automotive sound systems!
Lot of car for the money though!
I’m also looking at the Cupra Tavascan and I’m hoping the Cupra Born comes back on .
There’s alot of issues with the Born, from software glitches, battery performance issues, and interior comfort complaints, including the dash warping or cracking, where a member on here was trying to do second termination!
Not sure how many of you folly the nitty gritty of the car industry, but it seems range extenders are making a comeback on both Hybrids and EV’s (EREV) (REV) (REX), Whils’t the technology is mainly seen in China, the european market is seeing a resurgence of extended range electric vehicles (EREVs). Mazda brought EREV to europe in 2023 (MX30), Ford is leading the charge to bring EREV back to europe, VW is looking at the feasability for it’s ID models and BMW for it’s ix5, the i3 has one. Hyundai, not sure, if for EV’s or Hybrids… I wonder if the Vauxhall Ampera will make a comeback!
I’m also looking at the Cupra Tavascan and I’m hoping the Cupra Born comes back on .
There’s alot of issues with the Born, from software glitches, battery performance issues, and interior comfort complaints, including the dash warping or cracking, where a member on here was trying to do second termination!
I’ve seen the software glitches on the born forums but nothing about the interior, but I’ll double check. I’ve had enough problems with Ariya, I really don’t want another car with problems.
I’ve seen the software glitches on the born forums but nothing about the interior, but I’ll double check. I’ve had enough problems with Ariya, I really don’t want another car with problems.
https://forum.whichmobilitycar.co.uk/forums/topic/trying-to-do-second-early-termination/
Google Cupra born dash cracking and Born proplems.
@fastbike1000, hi can i ask what issues you had with the ariya as its an outsider on my list for feb now the price has gone down.
Not sure how many of you folly the nitty gritty of the car industry, but it seems range extenders are making a comeback on both Hybrids and EV’s (EREV) (REV) (REX), Whils’t the technology is mainly seen in China, the european market is seeing a resurgence of extended range electric vehicles (EREVs). Mazda brought EREV to europe in 2023 (MX30), Ford is leading the charge to bring EREV back to europe, VW is looking at the feasability for it’s ID models and BMW for it’s ix5, the i3 has one. Hyundai, not sure, if for EV’s or Hybrids… I wonder if the Vauxhall Ampera will make a comeback!
Theres no chance for the Ampera, Vauxhall got it as they were part of the group, now they’re Stellantis, there’s no chance of a car that well built. Best Vauxhall I’ve driven by a country mile. 30 miles pure electric 200 miles extended. Hours wasted explaining the 1.4 generator wasn’t an engine.
If you want a car with low seats the Ampera would have been ideal, it was like climbing out of a supercar.
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I’m also looking at the Cupra Tavascan and I’m hoping the Cupra Born comes back on .
There’s alot of issues with the Born, from software glitches, battery performance issues, and interior comfort complaints, including the dash warping or cracking, where a member on here was trying to do second termination!
I’ve seen the software glitches on the born forums but nothing about the interior, but I’ll double check. I’ve had enough problems with Ariya, I really don’t want another car with problems.
If you google dash crack and warping, it comes up on the foums. As for the porr guy on here…
https://forum.whichmobilitycar.co.uk/forums/topic/trying-to-do-second-early-termination/
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