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Three years, ordinarily, is not a long time with regards to cars. However we are in a period of massive change, fuelled with the inevitable change to electric vehicles.
The scheme must look at the artificial block on cars with higher BHP and adjust/remove the AP ceiling.
We have recently received our xc40 petrol engine SUV but this will almost certainly be the last time we get an ICE car.
To state the obvious motability can’t put cars on that don’t exist, and none of us have a crystal ball, but that shouldn’t stop of us from combining what we want with what we think will be available.
I predict/guess that we will be looking at between a third and a half, nearer the third, of all cars on the scheme will be EVs. The ceilings on BHP, will be raised, and the limit on APs will be removed completely. I base this on the fact that, in regard to EVs, BHP is increasing over the board. APs will, in the short to medium term and until battery prices fall, continue to rise on both EVs and ICE cars and our contribution to motability, via the government, will continue to lag the increase in car prices.
I firmly believe there will be a choice of medium to large PHEV but sadly, unless we start getting BEVs from China, no pure electric SUVs on the scheme. The number of BEV medium size saloon type cars will increase substantially allowing many on the scheme to “go green”.
We should see an increase in the electric range of PHEVs up to a maximum of 50 miles..ish. Which, for many, and to all intent and purposes, will mean driving fossil fuel free.
I doubt if there will be any diesels on the scheme as more and more manufacturers turn away from them. Which will be a disappointment to many.
One major benefit of EVs, that we seldom hear about is they are all automatic. Many, over the years, have been calling for automatics to be subsidised so a major bonus of EVs is they are all automatic so this will remove this anomaly for ever.
So what do you think/imagine motability will look like in the coming years?
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There is a great deal of development work going on with small modular petrol driven gensets as range extenders. The target is to make them compact, lightweight and vibration free. If successful there could be an alternative to heavy batteries for medium size cars.
Mazda MX30 is designed to have a rotary engined range extender along with its 100 mile battery range range.
Will we see range extender equipped vehicles in 3 years?
BMW led the way of course but the i3 engine was an adapted motorcycle engine, not one designed from the ground up for the purpose.
What changes do you see in 5 years fwippers?
I think there will be a lot more choice with regards to EVs and agree that some of the artificial caps that are in place will disappear. I wouldnt be surprised to see several Tesla smaller models on the scheme although as mentioned I hope they sort out their quality issues. In 3 years time I think most vehicles on offer will either be full EVs or hybrids and I wouldn’t be surprised to see lighter more efficient batteries available. I am more hopeful that there will be decent sized SUV EVs available.
With the present reduction in choice of cars and their power and sophistication, I reckon, in three years, Motability will look like this…
Electric, of course… two rechargeable AAs
i think they will have a fancy new logo, costing a fair penny designed by a friend of the new CEO, and one of his former colleges from his Guardian days becoming press officer, motability will get on channel4 and a right up in the Autotrader and we will all get discounts at McDonalds oh and they may change over to the AA.
What changes do you see in 5 years fwippers?
The scheme will evolve and I see bigger changes in the latter part of the decade. I am scheduled to change cars next year and will consider electric but need to know the logistics and costs of installing a fast charger at home.
What do you mean by a “fast charger at home”? Do you have a 3 phase power supply?
I think it’s highly unlikely you will have a 3 phase supply. As a rule of thumb if you have three phase you would have three 100amp fuses rather than one.
No off street parking for me so until wireless charging is rolled out on a grand scale ev’s are not on my menu unfortunately,and if that doesn’t happen I suppose I will be unable to use Motability.I appreciate that 2030 is a long way off though and technology will advance hugely in that time.
As far as i am aware , fast charger ( free on Motability ) simply fasten on wall and feed the main cable back to the house incoming mains fuse box on its own fuse of course The garage you want to order from will call round first( or their electrician will ) to see if all is ok for fitting before order is taken
Sorry,they of course supply fitted and working totally free of charge for Motability customers
A charger fitted at home is likely to be 7 kWh. A granny cable will deliver 3 kWh. The fuse will likely need to be upgraded before you have the charge point fitted but that is done for free.
It takes about 6 hours to charge our Soul up from 20% to 80%. Not a problem when you think of the amount of time your car sit on the drive.
@Brydo I was seriously tempted by the xc40, and hope there will be a full EV version, or something similar in the next few years.Kia Soul 2020 EV
Ellie its just my luck, we extended to five years on our xc60 hoping the xc40 PHEV would come on the scheme, within that extension, the very next quarter after picking up our petrol “mild hybrid” (hahahaha mild hybrid), the PHEV appears on the scheme.
Couldn’t believe it our dealer and motability said it wouldn’t be on any time soon, and as if by magic, there it was.
A pretty steep AP but if we kept it 5 years we could have made it work…………. maybe.
I am hoping to hang on and extend our current lease on our Outlander PHEV for a further 2 years. Our AP £1699 plus a towbar approximately £500, the current PHEV AP are very high at present, to tow our caravan we would need a Volvo PHEV ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I think in 3/5, in a post covid period / transition, the government will continue its crusade to reduce number of DLA / pip vlaiments both new & reviews. In addition the most disadvantaged and low / no income claimants will have even less choice with further reduction in car numbers and / or nil deposit vehicles & less able to afford the continually rising, often prohibitive, AP’s.
yes the increase in EV’s shall continue & Motability operations shall be following dictates to increase EV’s & reduce carbon emissions etc..motabioity operations, operational costs, salaries and bonus’s will continue to rise, way above inflation & higher than other sectors.
I hope that the Motability accreditation process for dealerships is refreshed and more strategic & CRM based with implementation of a ‘mystery shopper’ style programme – as I’ve been a Motability customer over 20 years and rarely come across a decent, competent, well versed Motability ‘specialist’ within the dealerships I’ve encountered on test drives and / or ordering.
I also hope that the good condition bonus is reviewed & how APs are arrived at (whatever methodology / formulae is applied) – imho the huge profit being made by MO should not be sitting in reserves (with a little bit to the charity arm & for limited grants as is the current set up) but rather an apportionment be applied to reduce AP’s where possible.
I am forever thankful for Motsbility & the ability to have my car through the scheme – it’s makes a huge difference to my freedom & quality of life.
the scheme is good, nonetheless with much room for improvement still
I think its clear that, unless something changes soon, PHEV will not be the EV of choice going forward. Assuming things stay as they are, with BEVs receiving a government grant, and the reduction of battery costs. Within the next three years I would expect to see BEVs being cheaper than PHEVs.
If this is the case how many would choose a PHEV over a cheaper BEV?
I suspect EREVs (extended range electric vehicles) will replace PHEVs. Aka Serial Hybrids. Still keeping the flexibility of being able to use petrol on long journeys but relying much more on improved batteries – and improving efficiency by saving weight. Mazda, Toyota and Nissan are on it.
Can’t see it, why would anyone go to the expense of combining the two when a BEV is cheaper to manufacture and run?
Because given most cars do short journeys most of the time, it’s very inefficient hauling heavy batteries around just for the less frequent long journeys.
I would assume they will banned from 2030 also, so a short term fix?
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.PHEV’s with “significant range” will be allowed for sale up until 2035, but yes, just a temporary stopgap, and I would expect the vast majority of R&D is in full EV or non ICE lik Hydrogen fuel cell rather the ICE range extenders
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2023 - Hyundai Kona Electric UltimateI’d be very surprised if the UK ban happens in 2030, and of course the car market is worldwide, so there’s plenty of life in the idea.
I’d be surprised if it doesn’t happen, Europe also appears to be following suit, as will the rest of the world especially the Far East as the technology matures over the next few years. No doubt the USA will take the adoption slower, but California will push the acceptance over there, Africa will take longer, but I think 2030 will see most of European car sales EV
Previous Motability Cars
2006 - 2009 Skoda Superb VR6 2.0tdi
2009 - 2012 Citroen C5 2.0tdi VTR Nav
2012 - 2015 Nissan Qashqai 1.5dci tekna
2015 - 2018 Ford Kuga 2.0tdi Titanium X
2018 - 2021 BMW 220d X drive 2 Series Active Luxury
2021 - 2023 Hyundai Kona Electric Premium SE
2023 - Hyundai Kona Electric Ultimate
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