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A bit of good news for some, Tesco is stopping free ev charging soon which will mean they will be easily available
Our local Tesco is normally full of phevs, 5 hour charge for 20 miles!
Last year when the council ones was free they was always full and now you have to pay you can always get on
https://www.electrifying.com/blog/article/tesco-to-end-free-charging-at-stores-from-november-1st
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Still getting free charging in my local area in the west of Scotland. Haven’t spent a penny on charging or petrol in months. Of course it won’t last for ever so “making hay while the sun shines” ?
The positive is having a greater chance of being able to charge the car when away from home
I can’t imagine many phev owners bothering @ from 28p per kWhAnother nail in the coffin for potential EV drivers who don’t have the facility to charge at home.
My Octopus Go rate = 7.5p and I average 3.3 miles per kwh so a cost of 2.27p per mile. Tesco at 28p works out at 8.48p per mile so not far off four times the cost.
A bit of good news for some, Tesco is stopping free ev charging soon which will mean they will be easily available Our local Tesco is normally full of phevs, 5 hour charge for 20 miles! Last year when the council ones was free they was always full and now you have to pay you can always get on https://www.electrifying.com/blog/article/tesco-to-end-free-charging-at-stores-from-november-1st
I don’t understand where you get 5 hours for 20 miles from, a full charge on the average PHEV takes approximately 3 hours @3.6 kW rate for 30 miles?
As regards 28 pence a kWh it was never going to last forever, big commercial energy users are charged 21 pence a kWh so taking into consideration operating cost 28 pence seems fair and reasonable.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
30 miles from a phev? I had a xc40 phev and it didn’t achieve 20 miles even though it said 28 miles. are you one of those guys who sits behind a lorry at 50 or drives everywhere at 20?
I think 28p is more than fair enough
I regularly see 30/32 miles in the better weather which feather off slightly to 28 miles when the temperatures drop, in the winter with the heater on 18 miles.
No, I drive normally, but I do keep to the speed limits, if what you are saying is correct, it would appear the XC40 PHEV is not a particularly efficient PHEV.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
The XC40 has a 10.7kWh battery compared to the Outlander’s 13.8kWh, so it’s going to have less range. 28 is achievable, normal I would expect about 22..
The XC40 has a 10.7kWh battery compared to the Outlander’s 13.8kWh, so it’s going to have less range. 28 is achievable, normal I would expect about 22..
That not bad, the batteries hold back 30% in reserve which give a useable 6.79 kWh charging up at Tesco Podpoint the onboard charger will restrict the charge rate to 3.6 kW in theory should take 2 hours for a full charge.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
30 miles from a phev? I had a xc40 phev and it didn’t achieve 20 miles even though it said 28 miles. are you one of those guys who sits behind a lorry at 50 or drives everywhere at 20? I think 28p is more than fair enough
In case you haven’t noticed, not every PHEV is a brick, and not every PHEV has a comparatively small battery.
10.7kwh for the XC40, which is considerably less than most other mainstream PHEVs. Including hatchbacks. Peugeot 308 comes in at 12.4kwh, Golf 8 (as well as Octavia) comes in at 13kwh, A-Class comes in at 15.6kw, Sportage 13.8kwh (same as a Tucson and Outlander), RAV4 comes with 18.1kwh, the list is endless.
The XC40 simply is an SUV with a small battery (and huge wheels – not helping) – not even close to representative of ranges achievable by PHEVs. The average consumption is around 2.5-3 miles per kwh for a PHEV – around 30 miles is the average range of most PHEVs. The XC40 from the get go isn’t even advertised as capable of going 30 miles (i think they advertise it with what, 27 miles range?).
On the topic at hand, well.. was kind of obvious, really. Can’t expect electricity to stay free when it doubles and triples in price per kwh within 2ish years.
The XC40 has a 10.7kWh battery compared to the Outlander’s 13.8kWh, so it’s going to have less range. 28 is achievable, normal I would expect about 22..
That not bad, the batteries hold back 30% in reserve which give a useable 6.79 kWh charging up at Tesco Podpoint the onboard charger will restrict the charge rate to 3.6 kW in theory should take 2 hours for a full charge.
Not quite. Charge over 80% slows down significantly when the charging board starts balancing cells. That’s why manufacturers usually just give you the number of how long it takes to charge to 80% – because above that, it slows down significantly. My guess would be that 2hours is enough to bump it to 80%.
Especially if you don’t have an EV tariff, that can be significant monthly savings even for a PHEV owner.
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Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Rene you could be right the majority of the time I charge up using my dedicated Podpoint overnight, to date I have never taken a full charge of a commercial charger, I have taken an 80% charge of a fast charger. I have plugged the granny charger into the external 13-amp socket on the caravan whilst on site which take about 5 hours, the last hour seems to take forever.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
For me the xc40 wasn’t efficient at all, we do live in a hilly area though
For me the xc40 wasn’t efficient at all, we do live in a hilly area though
James, we tow a 1500kg caravan behind our Outlander PHEV in EV mode, from our bungalow to the M6 Toll Road is just over 14 miles we still have 4 miles left i.e.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
James I have an xc40 PHEV and during the summer I was getting 27 from a full charge most of the time. I am however seeing a big drop in range during this 13*C weather we are having recently. I am getting more like 17/18 miles from a full charge.
Gradually, free chargers will disappear and I tend to agree that it is an advantage. I used Tesco when my battery was at 80% simply as it was free, and it added around 5% during the shop. Now, however, they are always full, whilst the 50kWh ones are empty.
This is a sill post saying positive most phev cars have 7 kw minimum which means they charge to full in a little over an hour.. I am not worried though as my local Tesco will still be free anyway as you only get 50 minutes free from arming after that you have to spend £5 and only get a max of 2 hours before getting hit with a £80 fine. So bays are always free, the manager has assured me due to the managed parking they will always be free.
It’s really bad when black cabs, uber type cars and work vans use free ev chargers and ungrateful rude ev cars drivers who stay plugged in despite their cars no longer charging (that’s why tesla fees for staying when no longer charging) so with not free charging the evidiots can stay away. The phevs really should get lost once charged to free up the ev charger.
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