Starmer offers ‘massive concessions’ on welfare bill to Labour rebels

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    joss
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      Thanks to the 120 labour MP’s who have won major concession’s on the proposed cuts to the welfare bill.

      From the Guardian this morning.  https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/26/starmer-offers-massive-concessions-on-welfare-bill-to-labour-rebels

      Exclusive: Leading rebels say they have been promised significant changes to planned cuts which could help bill avoid defeat.

      Starmer offers ‘massive concessions’ on welfare bill to Labour rebels
      Exclusive: Leading rebels say they have been promised significant changes to planned cuts which could help bill avoid defeat

      Pippa Crerar , Kiran Stacey and Jessica Elgot
      Thu 26 Jun 2025 19.55 BST

      Keir Starmer has offered Labour MPs “massive concessions” on his controversial welfare bill in a move that has won over key rebels and is likely to have saved the prime minister from a damaging Commons defeat next week.

      Leading MPs said they had been promised significant changes, which will cost the government several billion pounds over the next few years but would shore up the prime minister’s precarious authority.

      The compromises on the planned cuts, which are understood to include applying the changes only to new claimants and further consultation on the most controversial cuts to disability benefits, were offered during a tense day of talks with Downing Street.

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      Jojoe
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        He had no choice, not only was he going to lose the vote, Labour have been haemorrhaging members over these cuts.

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        #307273
        crippleddad
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          Fantastic news.

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          MFillingham
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            Whilst it’s a good result for current recipients.  This will lead to a doubly complicated 2 tier system where there’s going to be a point where 2 claimants with the same conditions and lifelong limitations will have one in receipt of daily living element of PIP and one who doesn’t qualify.  In fact I can see a possibility of siblings with the same genetic conditions where the older one receives PIP and the other has to wait years and then won’t get the same award as the criteria will be tougher.

            While I personally can only welcome the climb down, for very obvious and selfish reasons, this just makes a mistake much worse.

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            joss
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              @MFillingham Fair points that have been raised elsewhere I note. It will be interesting to see what happens in the vote in parliament on Tuesday.

              I still think that the backbenchers should have stuck out for equality for all claiments. I believe that they would have got that with a little more presure on Starmer.

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              kezo
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                Agree, it’s 2 Tier (Starmer), but a fear those more centre left, it will be enough to pass over the line come Tuesday unfortunately. Whether down the line theres a court case, that awards someone on the new scheme to be awarded under similar circumstances, to someone on the original scheme and opens the door for future claimants, wats to be seen!

                Either way, MP’s should have held out for a better all round deal, given they work and voted in by us, not the front bench of loons!

                Given Starmers mother and brother were disabled (no longer with us), I’m shocked, he has even gone down this route, but he is a politician and he is 2 Tier!

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                Phaedra
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                  I wouldn’t dare mention Starmers name at the moment 🙁

                  My ex works as a Speak Up Guardian for the National Guardian ofice, they lead, train and support the network of Freedom to Speak Up Guardians in England and provide support and challenge to the healthcare system in England on speaking up.

                  A couple of days ago she read on the BBC news site that the goverment are announcing this week that the CQC (Care Quality Commission), the National Guardian Office and about 200 NHS Quangos are being scrapped.

                  Not a nice way to find out you’re going to be out of a job soon 🙁

                  Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

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                  MFillingham
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                    @Phaedra that royally sucks.

                    The NHS desperately needs a massive reform in order to focus the funds on getting the job done but the CQC holds a very necessary role in ensuring the standards we expect are upheld.  I know of many care facilities that were closed because the CQC required such a level of changes the company found it better value to close the centre.  I’ve also seen first hand the panic an audit can create.

                    I can’t imagine these cuts will be a major event politically, the Right sided parties all want a leaner government, so cuts to this extent will go down well with them, the Left will complain but there’s not enough to make a significant noise.

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                    kezo
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                      Hopefully this is readable:

                      #308083
                      kezo
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                        Tax rises are increasingly likely in the autumn Budget after Labour rebels forced Sir Keir Starmer into a humiliating capitulation on the government’s welfare reforms which will now “save nothing,” say leading economists.
                        The Prime Minister gutted his welfare bill at the last minute by removing plans to restrict eligibility for personal independence payments in order to head off the Government’s first Commons defeat on Tuesday evening.

                        Commons Clerks have insisted the law is renamed the Universal Credit Bill, as it now no longer includes any measures on Pip.

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