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Firstly, it’s great to see the list of electric options increase at long last. Yesterday to go any distance it was the Ariya or the Megane. Now the Enyaq has appeared and the ID5?!
I had a look at Skoda’s website and, frankly, I’m baffled. Most cars come in several specs and then you can add options or packs onto that. There’s 4 available on scheme; Loft, Suite, Lounge and EcoSuite. The latter appears to be a greener version of the Suite. However, I’ve seen nothing that separates the 4 different names other than EcoSuite’s green credentials (natural dyes). Are there trim differences as there’s only a Enyaq IV 60 on the price list or is it just aesthetic?
Finally, if packs are required, would we be able/wise to buy them up front?
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if you go to the build your enyaq and select the iv80 you will then be given the trim options loft suite etc which is pureley the cabin ambience and seat trim. for anything else you have to go on to options then it gets eyewatering the maxx package is £9375.
PACKAGES
Clever Package includes;
– Convenience package basic (Keyless entry and start/stop system advanced, wireless charging, privacy glass and acoustic side windows,
driver alert and glasses storage compartment in front centre armrest).
– Assisted drive package basic (adaptive cruise control, traffic jam assist, blind spot detection and crew protect assist).
– Climate package basic (heated front seats, heated front washer nozzles and tri-zone climate control).
– Drive package basic (2-spoke leather heated multi-function steering wheel with paddles for recuperation level selection and drive
mode selection).
– Family package basic (manual blinds for the rear windows, electrically operated child locks and 2 x rear USB C ports (charging only)).
– Tow bar preparation.
£2,755.00Plus Package (over Clever Package) includes;
– Convenience package plus (electrically operated tailgate with kick activation (virtual pedal) and remote access (1 year).
– Light and view package basic (full LED Matrix beam headlights with variable light distribution, full LED rear lights with variable lighting
functions and headlight washers).
– Comfort seat package basic (electrically adjustable drivers seat with memory function and power adjustable lumbar support for
driver’s seat).
– Assisted drive package plus (travel Assist (emergency assist, lane assist plus with narrow lane assist and urban evasive steering support)).
£4,830.00Advanced Package (over Plus Package) includes;
– Infotainment package plus (head up display).
– Light and view package plus (crystal face).
– Climate package plus (heated front and rear seats and heated windscreen).
– CANTON Sound system.
£6,980.00
–Maxx Package (over Advanced Package) includes;
– Comfort seat package plus (electrically adjustable front seats (driver and passenger) with memory function, power adjustable lumbar
support for front seats (driver and passenger) and massage function for driver’s seat).
– Parking package plus (area view camera, intelligent park assist, trained parking).
– Drive sport package plus (dynamic chassis control, 3-spoke leather heated sports multi-function steering wheel with paddles for
recuperation level selection, progressive steering).
– Rear side airbags.
£9,375.00CHARGING
Heat Pump for battery pack. O O O O £854.17 £1,025.00
iV Universal charging cable with industrial connector 32A/230V. O O O O £566.67 £680.00
STANDALONE OPTIONS
Panoramic Sunroof. O O O O £712.50 £855.00
Partition net screen. O O O O £141.67 £170.00
Transport Package. Includes;
Net program in boot
Variable boot floor
Rear seat backrest release.
O O O O £266.67 £320.00
Tow Bar electrically retractable. O O O O £679.17 £815.00Thanks Mitch.
It’s very odd that the different designs are different prices for not a lot of difference (but quite a big price range) then to get the sort of extras you’d expect from a car of that class you’re adding at least £4.5k which for MB customers means you are giving them more than £4k added benefit as they’ll have a much, much better trade in price at the end of your lease. Doesn’t make sense to me. I’d rather have either Loft or Suite and then have options for adding the Plus or Advance packages as the plus will contain a lot of features that those with mobility, back or postural challenges would benefit from.
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I saw Enyaq on the scheme and called for test drive yesterday .I have booked a test drive for Enyaq , Today I went there they didn’t allow me to the test drive!! I am motability customer , they said Enyaq not on motoability scheme (I showed them motobility website and it is on the scheme ) so we can’t offer a deal and due of that you can’t take a test drive. I am shocked!! Even they refused to take a test drive as a normal customer. They took all my details but they didn’t call me for that issue. They waste my time. I was angry but didn’t say anything. left a reviw on google and called Motability raised this issue.
Motability is not affordable any more dealers don’t want to sale car on the scheme and as on my experience they don’t want to offer test drive. That’s shame
@MG Stewart
It’s not showing up on the Skoda UK Motability main web site either, only models showing are the Fabia, Scala, Kamiq. Karoq and the Kodiaq.
Maybe there still on holiday and haven’t updated yet or Motability are dreaming.
@ChrisK yes I thought that but at least they should offer a test drive. Anyway, after complaints, they called me and offered a car in stock 🙂 that’s a good thing they understand they were being rude and apologized for it and offered a very good option. If we like it we will go for it.
Forgive me if I’m wrong – you need to take the convenience basic package to get privacy glass?
I believe MG is now including privacy glass art no extra cost!
@MG Stewart It’s not showing up on the Skoda UK Motability main web site either, only models showing are the Fabia, Scala, Kamiq. Karoq and the Kodiaq. Maybe there still on holiday and haven’t updated yet or Motability are dreaming.
I’ve just seen this.
Forgive me if I’m wrong – you need to take the convenience basic package to get privacy glass? I believe MG is now including privacy glass art no extra cost!
It’s insane isn’t it? A ‘basic’ car for £40 grand and some basics available on much cheaper electric cars simply aren’t there. However, fit 5 grands worth of pack and you’ll get to what the Ariya had as standard….
The ID5 seems to have the best combination of range and equipment but I’m struggling to see from the PDF exactly what is standard and what is a pack, so I may be overstating it’s equipment so far. I feel a trip to the VW dealership might be in order soon, they happen also to be our Skoda dealership as well so I might kill two proverbial birds.
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Forgive me if I’m wrong – you need to take the convenience basic package to get privacy glass? I believe MG is now including privacy glass art no extra cost!
It’s insane isn’t it? A ‘basic’ car for £40 grand and some basics available on much cheaper electric cars simply aren’t there. However, fit 5 grands worth of pack and you’ll get to what the Ariya had as standard…. The ID5 seems to have the best combination of range and equipment but I’m struggling to see from the PDF exactly what is standard and what is a pack, so I may be overstating it’s equipment so far. I feel a trip to the VW dealership might be in order soon, they happen also to be our Skoda dealership as well so I might kill two proverbial birds.
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/electric-and-hybrid/electric-cars/id5.html#model-compare-tool
Is it the Sincaire group?
@kezo My local? Yeomans.
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@kezo My local? Yeomans.
Pity I was hoping you could take me for a spin when you got your car 🙂
You never know it may have converted me?
I thought you already had an ID on order?
@kezo My local? Yeomans.
Pity I was hoping you could take me for a spin when you got your car
You never know it may have converted me I thought you already had an ID on order?I’m one of those sad individuals who take for ever to make a decision on such purchases. Given I’ve my own MG ZS right now, I can afford to take my time and get the car that suits my needs best, thus nothing is, as yet, on order.
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according to vw uk there are a few of teh id5’s in stock too in the uk, just finding a dealer that will let one go.
I visited my local dealership today, which has both Skoda and VW shops within even my walking distance. The skoda is very comfortable to sit in and easy to get in, although I had to have the seat all the way back (although that saves the needs for power seats if it’s jammed as far back as it goes). The boot is vast, it’s a proper estate car on stilts but the electric works does reduce the depth of that boot. Back seats are plentiful, I could sit in the rear seat behind the front seat I jammed back with ease, although my knee would complain if I had to sit like that for long (which it would in any car).
I sat in a Suite design, which is the one the dealer thinks is going to be most likely to get heated seats into without spending a fortune.
The salesman was hugely helpful, and I mean HUGELY!!! He was instantly onto the fact that heated seats would be essential for anyone with a back issue and understood the reasoning behind powered seats for disabled customers, probably more so than Motability. He also sits on the mindset that Motability customers are gold, if they’re treated right, they do tend to very easily become either brand or dealership loyal and are good for decades of return business. Unlike many, he was very happy to discuss everything and anything I wanted regardless of how far in advance I was looking, afterall, it’ll be months before orders become cars. On the subject of which, the Enyaq is now advertised with a 12 week availability as Skoda have prioritised them, that also explains why they’re on scheme now.
Everything I poked, prodded, switched or played with did what I’d expect in around the time/style you’d want. The infotainment wasn’t overly laggy, despite what every review said, although coming from a Chinese car, that might just be a comparison to the awful systems in the Mk1 ZS.
The ID5 was incredibly comfortable, although they only had the superior GTX available to sit in as the Style was being used by staff who weren’t in today. They’re more than happy for me to pop in and see if it makes a huge difference at any time. Systems were equally competent but plastics felt cheaper. Seats were heated as standard in the ID5, although adjustment can’t be electronic without choosing a higher model that isn’t on scheme.
The GTX has the Heads Up Display and uprated infotainment, which meant the drivers screen was on the stalk for the wheel and adjusted with the wheel, so you’ll always be looking through the wheel at it. However, you get that reflection on screen so can see the information you really need without looking away from the road.
It’s really not helped me much, the ID5 goes further (according to the salesman their demonstrators are getting 280/290 in summer, 220/240 now, despite all test drives being less than economical. The Enyaq (also according to the salesman) was getting 230 from the 60 (which is on scheme) and much less (190ish) in winter but the optional heat pump would help with that. Which is another problem, that’s a grand for something that is standard on the Nissan.
Having sat in both, there’s £1,350 difference between the two with another £1,000 to get to the Ariya. That means if I can get the £2,700 pack that includes heated seats plus wireless charging, keyless entry (but not handsfree boot) Adaptive cruise control, tri-zone climate control, heated steering wheel with regen paddles and USB C charging ports for the rear.
That puts the upgraded Enyaq closer in specification to the Ariya but sitting in the Nissan will tell if that’s enough.
according to vw uk there are a few of teh id5’s in stock too in the uk, just finding a dealer that will let one go.
There are but, as the salesman said, the likelihood of the dealership letting one go isn’t great. Likely wait is 6-12 months.
So, all I’ve achieved from that is that the ID5 feels much cheaper, although the pricetag is impacting my expectation somewhat. It’s also the case that the extra promised range is actually quite minimal, 50 miles further for that 15kWh. That will only really tell on a journey and, to be brutally truthful, both are further on a journey than my bladder reaches, so I’d be stopping for a 20 minute boost after around 100 miles anyway.
I’m not sure when I’ll get to the Nissan dealership, where I’ll have a look at the QQ and Ariya side by side and will compare the latter with today’s two. I’ll report back then.
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Its a shame the Enyak on the scheme only has an acclaimed 246 miles agaisn’t the 313 miles of the ID5. Although the Ariya Advance on the scheme has lowes’t acclaimed 233 miles. If I was looking at an EV now, out of the 3 you mentioned my pick would be on the Ariya, soley on how the interior looks. I’m not a fan of the Enyak and ID interiors but were all different.
Other than that, great comparison @MFillingham 🙂
While i love the looks of the Enyaq, i’m not sure i’m on board with charging for virtually everything that’s somewhat standard even in lower trims in other cars.
If you go by purely objective standards, it’s a bit of a no-brainer. If you don’t need a vast boot, the Megane E-Tech beats all of them in terms of value. I’ve test driven it, and it’s genuinely a cracking car, made me eat my words poking fun at it for being a Renault.
If you do need a big car, out of the three, the Enyaq is the worst to go for. There’s just no way to get the Enyaq “desirable” in terms of spec without spending way too much money for a leasing car. Another thing to consider, since it’s been brought up: heat pumps are nonsense. Objectively. To put it in numbers, a car with heat pump will lose around 10% less range in cold weather compared to one that doesn’t have one. So if your car loses 50 miles of range in the cold (random number) – a car with a heat pump will lose around 45 miles. So in the example given by @MFillingham the range dropped from 230 to 190ish miles – with a heat pump, that would drop from 230 to 195ish miles (ish). For one thousand pounds. You’ll not make that money back in savings.
If the car comes as standard with a heat pump, sure. Don’t pay money for it though, it’s absolutely nonsensical. The slightly increased range (in winter only, might i add) just doesn’t make up for the price. Maybe in countries that are cold (and by cold, i don’t mean 5 degrees C, i mean -10 degrees C) for at least 5-6 months, but certainly not in the UK.
In the end, it’s between the Ariya and the ID5, if you look at it objectively. I personally think that neither is good looking (the one category that for me, the Enyaq wins easily if you spec slightly bigger wheels), but the interior appears to be nicer in the Ariya. Haven’t sat in it though, i can only compare pictures. The ID5, much like all other ID cars, is a bit.. sterile on the inside.
In terms of range, the ID5 is a no brainer. Even if you can’t drive 300 miles straight, having more range = better, in any situation. Even if you don’t particularly need it genuinely. It’s also better equipped than the Ariya, despite some people for some reason arguing otherwise – while being cheaper.
Downsides of the ID5 quite obviously are the (sterile) interior, and for me personally, the lack of oomph. 170hp isn’t great for a car that size/weight, 10.5 seconds to 60 is slow by any measure.
Considering it’s also a grand cheaper than the Ariya, to me personally, it would be an obvious choice. For the Matrix LEDs on the ID5 alone, which you can’t even spec optionally on the Ariya (and which are a vast improvement when you live rural like we do). On top of that, if you’re willing to spend Ariya money, you could get the ID5 with the optional Infotainment Package Plus (AP + optional package is £300 more than the AP on the Ariya) – which then adds the very desirable augmented reality sat nav, amongst a few other things like sound system, the big sat nav etc (basically what you’ve experienced in the GTX).
That all said: i’d still go for a Megane if your circumstances (disabilities etc) allow it. The suspension in the Megane is superior to pretty much anything electric south of at least £70.000+. At the very least, i’d test drive it.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Sadly @Rene the Megane is no longer on the scheme.
Matrix lights are benificial if you do alot of night time driving, on the other hand if you do little night time driving standard LED headlighs with HBA are adequate.
I would agree with you on heat pumps and your unlikely to get you money back especially here in the UK with 5-7,5% savings…….
Sadly @Rene the Megane is no longer on the scheme.
You sure about that? I didn’t do research other than just now checking Motaclarity as well as the Motability search, it’s still listed in both. When was it removed (or are you mistaking the car with another one)?
Matrix lights are beneficial if you do a lot of night time driving, on the other hand if you do little night time driving standard LED headlights with HBA are adequate.
Of course you get the most benefit at night, but Matrix LED systems are better in every situation. While LEDs are certainly adequate (we currently drive standard LEDs with HBA), better is better. And of course, in the current months, it’s getting dark at like what, 5pm ish? Plenty of benefit to be had, at least if you drive (hence me mentioning it particularly) rural.
I wouldn’t call it a “knock out argument”, but if i had to chose between 360 camera or Matrix LEDs, i’ll take the lights – the ID5 still has a reversing camera as well as a dipping side mirror for parking. That said: personal opinion. But, even if you ignore the Matrix LEDs, the augmented reality Sat Nav doesn’t have an equal in the Ariya either – and that’s a genuine improvement over any dash/console mounted Sat Nav.
As i clarified, i wouldn’t go for either, i’d genuinely go for a Megane unless it’s impossible due to disabilities. But if i HAD to go for one of the two, i’d go with the ID5, hunting one down “from stock”. The Megane was offered to us from stock AFTER we told the guy we’d be going through Motability (Renault in Bridgend), could’ve had it within 3-4 weeks – so getting cars from stock certainly is possible, even if it means travelling. We went through multiple VW dealerships and settled on the third one (Sinclair in Port Talbot), 50 miles away. You just need to find the right salesperson to get somewhere (in this case, to get a car from stock).
In the end, that’s just my opinion – i haven’t driven the Ariya (i did drive the ID3 and ID4, Megane and did at least sit in an Enyaq), but i can’t see it changing my opinion much.
That video btw, or rather, the channel in general, is where my “journey into heat pumps” started. The guy is competent (if you can manage his accent, which even i as a german find a bit harsh lol, same with Autogefuhl), and does put some evidence forward whenever he claims something.
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Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.I actually chose tge etech and was driving it off the forecourt with in 3 weeks, range at this time of year is about 220 local and about 170 ish motorway, its basicallu matching renaults range calculator.
I absolutely love it if I am being honest, most notably the google automotive os of the car, no lag, no delay and I can actually watch iplayer, prime, or YouTube why charging is a bonus.
@Rene your right the E-TEC still on scheme. must of missed it somehow when looking 🙂
I actually chose tge etech and was driving it off the forecourt with in 3 weeks, range at this time of year is about 220 local and about 170 ish motorway, its basicallu matching renaults range calculator. I absolutely love it if I am being honest, most notably the google automotive os of the car, no lag, no delay and I can actually watch iplayer, prime, or YouTube why charging is a bonus.
Nice one!
I absolutely love it if I am being honest, most notably the google automotive os of the car, no lag, no delay and I can actually watch iplayer, prime, or YouTube why charging is a bonus.
Yeah, Android Automotive is one thing that really stuck out when we tested the car. To the point where i am wondering why not everyone is using it.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Yeah, Android Automotive is one thing that really stuck out when we tested the car. To the point where i am wondering why not everyone is using it.
I agree – give it time it will !
Yeah, Android Automotive is one thing that really stuck out when we tested the car. To the point where i am wondering why not everyone is using it.
I agree – give it time it will !
Here’s hoping. It’s genuinely pleasant, the first time i actually had “fun” faffing about with an infotainment system. Incredibly responsive, and everything is where it should be (since we’re all conditioned through our smartphones).
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.
You never know it may have converted me
I thought you already had an ID on order?
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