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- December 24, 2021 at 11:17 am#172321
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- December 24, 2021 at 11:47 am #172325
WigwamMy 18 year old Jazz sailed through its MOT again on Wednesday with no advisories. Had to have a new back end of the exhaust about 6 years ago and a new battery a year after, otherwise nothing spent beyond oil changes. Mind, the radio doesn’t work. No does the Aircon, but when a car gets to a certain age these things aren’t worth the trouble of fixing. Looks like that certain age for a Tesla is 9 years.
December 24, 2021 at 12:08 pm #172326
ReneThat realistically limits the resale of teslas to around 4 years.
I certainly wouldn’t buy a 5 year old car that needs a £20.000 replacement battery after 3 years. Even less so considering that at that point, the range already dropped. It just hasn’t dropped far enough to fall into warranty replacement.
December 24, 2021 at 12:19 pm #172327Why did he not go for an aftermarket battery replacement, according to the link around £3,700 or sell the car for spares?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
December 24, 2021 at 12:31 pm #172328
ReneIt’s not an aftermarket replacement.
It’s a repair. They remove the damaged cells and replace them. That company is in the US (the owner is somewhere in scandinavia) – and it might simply not be feasible in the first place.
Tesla tried to charge $22,500 for new battery pack when a $5,000 repair did the trick
Not to mention that, by the looks, many of the faults can’t even be diagnosed by non-tesla certified technicians (although that’s not unique to tesla).
More importantly: the garage who repaired the pack says that this “repair” won’t last a year due to the now inherent pack imbalance. I’m not sure i agree with that, but i will say that the “repaired” battery has a considerably reduced lifespan, so at best this is a band aid.
December 24, 2021 at 1:50 pm #172332
LandymanIt seems the best option is to lease then and not to buy.
December 24, 2021 at 3:27 pm #172338
Littledave.No comment from Brydo?
A friend has an 8 year old Nissan Leaf. Current range on a full charge is 40 miles.
Basically the car has scrap value only as the battery replacement replacement cost is far more than the car would be worth.
is this really environmentally friendly?
December 24, 2021 at 4:28 pm #172341It is stories like these that will have an effect on the sale of new electric cars, especially Teslas. I have pondered long and hard before taking the plunge into electric. I think the battery technology is much better now than 8 years ago, and I seem to recall the Leaf had the highest depreciation of all cars at the time.
December 24, 2021 at 5:23 pm #172343Oscarmax, I think he was making a point very well and getting publicity so we can be better informed about the downside of expensive EVs
December 24, 2021 at 5:40 pm #172344i was reading about lithium lumps i batteries that cause lots of issues.. a new charging method seems to get these lumps moving again and back into operation.
no idea if this system will be usable on current batteries but i think it will. unfortunately i cant find article now.
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistDecember 24, 2021 at 6:13 pm #172350https://newatlas.com/energy/charging-tweak-revives-lost-lithium-battery-capacity-lifespan/
this was it i think…
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistDecember 24, 2021 at 10:37 pm #172357
December 25, 2021 at 8:28 am #172365My 18 year old Jazz sailed through its MOT again on Wednesday with no advisories. Had to have a new back end of the exhaust about 6 years ago and a new battery a year after, otherwise nothing spent beyond oil changes. Mind, the radio doesn’t work. No does the Aircon, but when a car gets to a certain age these things aren’t worth the trouble of fixing. Looks like that certain age for a Tesla is 9 years.
This is one of the big issues with the move to electric. There are many millions of people in the U.K. who run cars that are very old at minimal cost and they are often their main cars. This option won’t be available in many years to come. EV’s will be fine for those of us who have lease cars or can afford to buy a new one every so many years, but what about those who don’t have these options and whose budget for their main car is a couple of grand max? Either they run the constant risk of having to scrap the car when the battery gives up or suffering dreadfully depleted range. These folk are also less likely to have their own charging facilities at home. Hopefully technology will evolve by then and it won’t be an issue.
December 25, 2021 at 9:18 am #172368Makes you wonder what the used car market will be like in ten years time.
December 25, 2021 at 9:54 am #172369My 18 year old Jazz sailed through its MOT again on Wednesday with no advisories. Had to have a new back end of the exhaust about 6 years ago and a new battery a year after, otherwise nothing spent beyond oil changes. Mind, the radio doesn’t work. No does the Aircon, but when a car gets to a certain age these things aren’t worth the trouble of fixing. Looks like that certain age for a Tesla is 9 years.
This is one of the big issues with the move to electric. There are many millions of people in the U.K. who run cars that are very old at minimal cost and they are often their main cars. This option won’t be available in many years to come. EV’s will be fine for those of us who have lease cars or can afford to buy a new one every so many years, but what about those who don’t have these options and whose budget for their main car is a couple of grand max? Either they run the constant risk of having to scrap the car when the battery gives up or suffering dreadfully depleted range. These folk are also less likely to have their own charging facilities at home. Hopefully technology will evolve by then and it won’t be an issue.
This is how society has developed, to the benefit of the haves and detriment to the have nots.
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