New Volkswagen ID 4 shown undisguised in Chinese documents

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    Brydo
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      The forthcoming Volkswagen ID 4 electric crossover has been revealed undisguised ahead of a planned launch later this year in images filed with the Chinese government.

      The images showing the production version of the crossover, which will initially be offered with rear-wheel-drive and a range of up to 311 miles, were contained in VW filings to China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). The images are part of documents all firms must submit to gain type approval for models in China.


      The images show how the ID 4 will look in its production bodywork and confirm that, as expected, it will share similar design features and traits to the ID 3 hatch. The documents also confirm that the machine will be 4592mm long, 1852mm wide and 1629mm high, with a wheelbase of 2765mm. Initially, the Chinese model will feature the 201bhp powertrain.

      The electric powered crossover will be a key part of the firm’s electric line-up, joining the ID 3 hatch, when it does on sale in Europe, China and the US in 2021.

      VW showed the revised camouflage livery for the machine during a webcast in place of a planned press event at the cancelled Geneva motor show. The new scheme is a two-tone blue version of the lurid pre-launch wrap used for the ID 3, and clearly shows many of the styling details of the production model. The webcast was also the first time VW had officially confirmed the model would carry the ID 4 nameplate.

      The ID 4 was due to be launched at this year’s New York motor show, but after that show was postponed due to the coronavirus crisis, it is expected to take place in the next few months.

      The ID 4 will initially be sold with a single electric motor and rear-wheel drive, with a more powerful twin-motor four-wheel drive layout set to be offered within the first 12 months of sales, according to Volkswagen chief operating officer Ralf Brandstätter.

      As suggested by the ID Crozz concept that the ID 4 is based on, the rear-wheel-drive model is expected to offer up to 201bhp and 229lb ft of torque from its rear-mounted electric motor. The four-wheel-drive model will add a front-mounted motor with an additional 101bhp and 103lb ft, taking its overall output to 302bhp and 332lb ft.

      The ID 4 will offered with a range of different battery options, the largest of which, a rumoured 83kWh unit, will offer a range of up to 311 miles on the WLTP test cycle.

      Similar in size to the Volkswagen Tiguan, the ID 4 will also offer fast-charging that will allow its battery to be charged to an 80% state of charge within 30mins on a 125-150kW system.

      Production of the ID. 4 is planned to take place in factories in Germany, China and USA, cementing its status as a global model, unlike the ID. 3 which is not planned to be sold in the USA.

      There will be two versions of the ID SUV: a standard model and a coupe-SUV in the vein of the original concept, expected to be named the ID 4 and ID 5 respectively. The ID 5 will be revealed at a later date.

      The ID 4 SUV will have a more conventional roofline and tailgate design, and is also expected to have conventional rear doors, ditching the sliding ones on the 2017 Crozz concept.

      We’ve previously seen prototypes of the model testing, which confirm that it shares a similar profile as the Crozz concept, including the rising and falling shoulderline, imposing front-end and high haunches. An ID 4 prototype in a different camouflage livery was also shown at last September’s Frankfurt motor show during the launch of the ID 3, with which it will share many design cues.

      The ID 4 and ID 5 will be built in Europe, the US and China, cementing its status as a truly global model and a crucial kingpin of the brand’s rapid EV rollout.

      “As early as 2020, we aim to sell 100,000 all-electric Volkswagens [per year],” said VW Group chairman Herbert Diess at the Crozz concept’s 2017 unveiling. “But this is just the beginning. By 2025, annual sales could increase tenfold to one million vehicles.”

      The ID 4 and ID 5 aims to combine the dynamic lines of a modern-day sports car with the all-terrain capability of a dedicated off-roader. It’s said to offer interior space on a par with the Tiguan Allspace, a long-wheelbase version of VW’s best-selling SUV model.

      The ID Crozz concept is 4625mm long, 1891mm wide and 1609mm tall, putting it in between the five-seat Tiguan and seven-seat Tiguan Allspace in terms of dimensions. The wheelbase is 2773mm.

      The MEB-based ID Crozz features two electric motors – one mounted within the front axle, and one at the rear – powered by an 83kWh lithium ion battery housed within the floor structure. The front electric motor sends its 101bhp and 103lb ft to the front wheels. The rear unit delivers 201bhp and 228lb ft to the rear wheels, giving the car a combined output of 302bhp and 332lb ft of torque.

      This is just under 100bhp more than the powertrain used by the rear-wheel-drive ID hatchback, intended to offset a likely weight increase. The ID 4 is set to have a range of more than 311 miles, with no specific figure yet quoted. No performance figures have been revealed, though VW says it intends limiting the top speed to 112mph.

      With the car’s large battery mounted low down within the floor structure and the electric motors also housed within the axle assemblies front and rear, VW also claims it possesses a front-to-rear weight distribution of 48:52. VW officials have talked up the dynamic qualities, suggesting the new platform and chassis provide a “large spread between handling and comfort”.

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        I think that’s quite sad. It looks really run of the mill current SUV. C5, 5008, etc. I thought (hoped) they’d be a bit more adventurous with a ground up EV design. Don’t get me wrong, it looks nice etc, but also looks normal and today rather than new, exciting and tomorrow!

        #115444
        DBtruth

          I would never expect anything too flashy from VW

          #115446
          Elliot
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            The words VW and adventurous will never be heard in a positive manner. They are masters of dull and boring.

            It just looks like a Vauxhall.

             

            #115471
            Brydo

              Its a decent size, fully electric SUV, what’s not to like?

              #115473
              Dafydd

                Hi all am new to the forum but have been viewing the threads with interest. I think if the ID4 goes as good as it looks then it will be brilliant if its allowed on the scheme. I hope Q3 will be a real breakthrough for EVs with the likes of ID3 & 4 as well as e-Niro, Kona and Tesla 3 and Y coming on the scheme.

                In the meantime keep safe and well.

                #115478
                DBtruth

                  Maybe my post looked like I was being critical of the design. I wasn’t at all and I really like it. I’m not too bothered with flashy styling as I like to drive down the road without turning too many heads.
                  VW sell millions of cars so they must be doing something right!

                  #115481
                  Georgie

                    Good grief – in profile it looks just like a Mazda CX5!

                    I do love those wheels, though.  Alas, upgraded wheels are one of those ‘options’ I can never justify.  Ditto exclusive paint colours.

                    #115484
                    Brydo

                      Dafydd I’m not sure if my memory is deserting me or playing trick but I recall motability saying both the ID.3 and ID.4 were coming on the scheme soon.

                      Please tell me I wasn’t dreaming.

                      #115489
                      NewYork1
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                        I think it looks nice. As others have stated a bit dull and inoffensive. The Skoda version looks nearly identical as well. I think the ID3 looks a bit more adventurous for a hatch. But if they sell millions as they want they’ll be everywhere anyway so inoffensive is good thing.

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                        #115494
                        Dafydd

                          Brydo, I also hope that Motability have the foresight to ensure we have the choice of those vehicles in the near future. The UK Government have already committed themselves to trialling wireless free charging in the UK, which would answer many of the concerns of people on this forum. All we can do is keep reminding the powers that be the need to do the right thing and enable the change to sustainability to be everyone’s priority.

                          #115505
                          Brydo

                            Dafydd I think me and you will get on swimmingly, motability need to get with the times and use their might and muscle to ensure we are at the front of the line for all  EV’s coming to the market.

                            To be fair this quarter has been the best, by a distance, so let’s hope it continues.

                             

                             

                            #115512
                            Elliot
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                              @ Brydo, The styling. It reminds me of my company Grandland X which I absolutely detest.

                              #115513
                              Brydo

                                Elliot I see a bit of similarity but not too much. The Vauxhall Grandland X is 4.47m long and 1.81m wide so the ID.4 Is a bit bigger but I hope the ID.4 will be a game changer as its likely to be the first BEV SUV on the scheme and will hopefully be big enough for wheelchairs, scooters etc.

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                                JS
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                                  Motability put it in their May 2020 Edition drive section of the LifeStyle Magazine that the id4 is Coming soon. As yet im still trying to establish how long Soon is as they said coming soon for the Kona Electric and that was Q3 2018.

                                  #115518
                                  Brydo
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                                    That’s  not good news JS.

                                    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                    Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                    #115526
                                    TheSUVGuy

                                      Nice spot Brydo, looks like my current car the Peugeot 3008, which imo is a good thing, will 100% order this unless the Mercedes glb makes it onto the scheme then I’ll need to test both and see which is better value for money

                                      #115529
                                      rox
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                                        LifeStyle Magazine

                                        Motability put it in their May 2020 Edition drive section of the LifeStyle Magazine that the id4 is Coming soon. As yet im still trying to establish how long Soon is as they said coming soon for the Kona Electric and that was Q3 2018.

                                        Yes but the views expressed in LifeStyle Magazine do not necessarily represent the views of motability and therefore MB or MBO cannot be held responsible for the accuracy of the info therein… nor any consequences airising from it.

                                         

                                        #115532
                                        gothitjulie
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                                          It’s taken forever to even get a hint of the ID3 on the roads, VW are wanting to sell more fossil cars yet before they sell many BEVs, they will sell only the exact number of BEVs needed to offset the fines for producing fossil cars. Backward thinking company that wants protection from innovations from elsewhere in the World.

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