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It seems the EU is at it again with all new 2022 cars to be fitted with speed limiter black boxes and can i hear slow you down if you go over the limit but will stop if you need to overtake, some new laws like mobile phone rules are set to change as well in uk but i am in favour of that as there are safety concerns i am not so sure of not only the added cost of big brother taking control of our car though.
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Under current UK laws, drivers are banned from texting or making a phone call – other than in an emergency – while using a handheld device.
From 2022, drivers will also not be allowed to take photos or videos, scroll through playlists or play games on their phones when driving.
Anyone caught using their hand-held device while driving will face a £200 fixed penalty notice and six points on their licence.
Drivers can still use devices such as sat navs and mobile phones using satellite navigation, if they are secured in a cradle.
Speeding or using phone at wheel should be as socially unacceptable as drink-driving, says roads police chief
But motorists must take responsibility for their driving and can be prosecuted if the police find them not in proper control of their vehicle.Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said: “By making it easier to prosecute people illegally using their phone at the wheel, we are ensuring the law is brought into the 21st century while further protecting all road users.
re the limiters this was explained as this…
The speed limiters will use road sign recognition or data from navigation maps to warn the driver about the current speed limit. It will notify drivers if they are exceeding the speed limit. This technology is already offered on many new vehicles, but the EU will make it standard on every vehicle.
Engine power will be limited to match the speed limit of a road that the vehicle is traveling on to prevent drivers from speeding. It will be possible to override the system by pushing hard on the throttle, but the system will be engaged every time the vehicle is started.
Other safety technologies that are required include distracted or drowsy driver attention warning, automatic emergency braking, lane-keeping assistance, backup cameras, and an improved event data recorder to store information before an accident.
The rules still need to be formally approved by the EU parliament later this year.I think the UK govt will follow suit.
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“The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.
Someone once said: “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.
agree.. death by a thousand cuts. world is going to the dogs. just a capitolist version of china
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist
Just a point – Britain was already set for Brexit when these ‘EU regulations’ were agreed on and we were free to refuse adoption. Our Government chose to adopt the regulations. They haven’t been forced onto us – we chose to adopt them.
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A Department for Transport spokesman said: “We continuously work with partners across the globe to improve the safety standards of all vehicles. These interventions are expected to deliver a step-change in road safety across Europe, including the UK.”
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It may be good for car thief’s to take control of there cars but not law abiding citizens there is for and against freedoms that we take for granted now but the future as Wigwam states is freedom slowly being taken away.
Odd to assume that “going over the speed limit” is a freedom or right.
It’s not. The speed limiter is just a means to enforce the already existing “restriction in freedom”. It’s like arguing that it’s a restriction of freedom that you’re not allowed to steal clothing, and that those beep-tags are just government overreach.
It also has nothing to do with the EU. In case people haven’t noticed, we’re not in the EU anymore, so to blame them for something we decide on is just stupid.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Rene, it’s yet another example of the state controlling our actions. Exceeding the speed limit, while breaking the law, is a personal choice. It may be an unwise choice and in certain circumstances it may be a dangerous choice. But we are free to choose. That is what a personal freedom is.
This does come from the EU it was voted for and passed by MEPs 2019, and we didn’t decide the UK government did, at no time were members of public consulted. The black boxes record everything you do, speed, braking, everything and will be used against drivers, so insurance companies don’t have to pay out.
I personally would feel like I am permanently on a driving test but seeing the huge increases in AP on Q1 for cars that are suitable for me, looks like I won’t be driving much longer as I have been turned down twice for grants and that’s when the AP was much lower.
I wonder if while new car owners will be stuck at the speed limit unable to keep up with the unlimited older vehicles in front, the little boy racer behind will be tailgating or white van man risking dangerous over taking manoeuvres as they get more frustrated.
When it’s introduced, the first phase of operation won’t actually stop you exceeding the speed limit though. Instead there will be a spike fitted in the drivers seat that will jab you in the bum if you do. That’s the coercion phase. Next….
im inclined to already keep my kona for the 5 years. if im still alive i may well not be up for another car anyway.
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistThe next phase will be to automatically fine the registered keeper £100 each time the speed limit is exceeded. This phase will last a very long time…
It seems the future looks very bleak on big brother and there is no good being out of the EU, we will not get a return to Gallons which will be hitting the £8 soon i do think if the pumps showed the price in Gallons as is most cars still display it would certainly cause people to think how much we are paying per mile in rip off britain. And also with gas electric prices due to go sky high in 2022 it will hit disabled a lot more.
daveblue. If I may take you task slightly… Rising prices hit poorer people more than richer people. People with disabilities are no more or less affected than able bodied people when it comes to inflation. It’s about how much disposable income you have.
But drivers are forced to take their eyes off the road for far to long when attempting to operate sub standard touch screens like those being churned out by VW for example ..Madness imo
Driving a car is not a birthright, it’s s luxury. If you can’t abide by the law then you shouldn’t be sitting behind the wheel. Complaining about the government trying to limit the amount of peoples lives that are lost each day, just because you can’t play candy crush behind the wheel and turn granny into a speed-bump seems a bit backwards to me.
For most law abiding citizens, that DONT put others in harms way, it’s not going to be a problem.
Most of the cars we’re currently driving already have speed limiters fitted, my last 3 have all had it as part of the cruise control package.
The major difference we’re likely to see is that they will be active by default unlike now where you have to enable and set it. We will still have the option to disable it just as we do with all the other “driving aids”.
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How very optimistic. WardyGTC. Our last two cars have telemetrics that report any amount of data from the car in real time to the car makers servers, including the cars speed and GPS position. Imagine the future: the government accesses that information to enable the introduction of road pricing, and then once that’s been accepted, uses it to monitor your driving and impose penalties for exceeding the speed limit in order to “reduce accidents” but in reality to provide a steady flow of extra income in place of speed cameras, unless of course you never to turn off the speed limiter.
Driving a car is not a birthright, it’s s luxury. If you can’t abide by the law then you shouldn’t be sitting behind the wheel. Complaining about the government trying to limit the amount of peoples lives that are lost each day, just because you can’t play candy crush behind the wheel and turn granny into a speed-bump seems a bit backwards to me. For most law abiding citizens, that DONT put others in harms way, it’s not going to be a problem.
We got a right one hear guys so ignorant not worth too much comment.
Maybe everyone should only listen to daveblue ..?
Why some must try gather support from others if they don’t agree with another opinion posted from another seems worrying, same goes for multiple names used under the same person, weird..
Just for the record, the car I have got a speed limit of 112mph, plus a limiter for speed control..
However it’s the most fuel guzzling thing I’ve ever driven in my life, personally can’t see in this day and age that a 70 plate with such thirst named under mild hybrid could ever been created?..
The speed limiters will use road sign recognition….
Given that our Kona shows a limit of 80mph when passing 60mph signs on the overhead gantry’s on smart motorways, and on occasion show a limit of 110mph (I’d take a photo using my phone as proof but that would be illegal) when driving in the 20mph zones in central London, I don’t see how this can possibly go wrong.
The speed limiters will use road sign recognition….
Given that our Kona shows a limit of 80mph when passing 60mph signs on the overhead gantry’s on smart motorways, and on occasion show a limit of 110mph (I’d take a photo using my phone as proof but that would be illegal) when driving in the 20mph zones in central London, I don’t see how this can possibly go wrong.
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