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- August 9, 2021 at 4:12 pm#161131

The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
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- August 15, 2021 at 6:56 pm #161977
Many Hybrid were used as company vehicles for tax perks, and a large proportion were never charged up and used only petrol.
August 15, 2021 at 7:34 pm #161981
JacippitPersonally think electric cars are at a tipping point. The range is almost as good as ICE (internal combustion engine) in the latest models and charge times are plummeting too plus add in so many more chargers. This is making people think hmmm. Definitely making me think for the wife next MB in Q2 2022, probably a year too early but not waiting until 2025.
Just check this! Her current C4 Cactus diesel auto does around 6k a year at approximately £800 in fuel. The Kona EV charging at home on cheap overnight rates for the same mileage is approximately £150!!!!
August 15, 2021 at 8:50 pm #161987As I’ve said many times Jacippit its a once in a lifetime opportunity and for the life of me i cant understand why, if an EV suits your needs, many more people don’t jump in. It doesn’t matter a jot whether its because of the environment or just to save money just listen to the guys on this forum who have changed and love it.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.August 15, 2021 at 11:06 pm #162001
DafYou are right fwippers and it’s such a waste. By making full use of the electric range of these vehicles they can save themselves money as the cost of fuel rises.
August 16, 2021 at 9:01 am #162021You are right fwippers and it’s such a waste. By making full use of the electric range of these vehicles they can save themselves money as the cost of fuel rises.
Most company car drivers have their fuel paid for by their employer, so their logic will be that stopping for 5 minutes (or less) at a ‘pay at the pump’ once a week, or every few weeks, is a lot less time and hassle than plugging in, charging, checking the charge and unplugging every single day. Unlike private users, they won’t save anything in running costs by doing so and, as fwippers says, they only get PHEV’s as they are a tax dodge.
August 16, 2021 at 9:02 am #162022The number of new ICE cars registered is affected by the chip shortage and BEV cars are not affected. Seems to me that the reason BEV registrations have soared is that there just ain’t enough ICE motors about.
August 17, 2021 at 11:09 am #162167
Daf“Most company car drivers have their fuel paid for by their employer, so their logic will be that stopping for 5 minutes (or less) at a ‘pay at the pump’ once a week, or every few weeks, is a lot less time and hassle than plugging in, charging, checking the charge and unplugging every single day. Unlike private users, they won’t save anything in running costs by doing so and, as fwippers says, they only get PHEV’s as they are a tax dodge.”
That is true Glos Guy but the company stumping up for the fuel will. It would depend on the mileage they do of course but having had company cars in the past if I’d been offered the tax incentives of EVs plus overnight charging and the performance I would have jumped at the offer.
Checking the charge is a doddle as you have an app on the mobile. Plugging in and out takes less than a minute. As far as tax savings a Tesla 3 will cost less in terms of benefits in kind than a Hyundai i10 city car and thousands less than a BMW 3 Series.
Who said “Electric cars are going nowhere fast”.August 18, 2021 at 4:08 pm #162269An electric vehicle would suit my needs. Low annual mileage. Can charge from home socket no probs. However, there are times when I do need to be able to get charged en-route and the processes involved put me right off the whole thing. In terms of cost, I estimate that going electric would save some £300 p.a. in fuel costs. Fine. But at least half of this would be eaten up by having to buy a mobile phone/network access (I do not have one and really do not want one of the offensive, nasty things). Then there’s the whole app nightmare and paid-for subscriptions which I seem to need to get permission to plug into a charger. Overall, in terms of fuel cost, electric would cost me more than petrol.
There is also the reliability of using on-the-road chargers. Reading posts here and on EV forums, it seems that chargers often will not accept the cards, apps, subs or whatever else they demand. This, in addition to having to wait to get on a charger and the time to top up is just not on for me.
Understand that the government is “working towards” universal pay-as-you-go charging on all recharge points. Many working parties, consultations, quangos, reports, surveys etc. All these will achieve, as ever, is more money in the pockets of Boris’s pals on the working parties etc. If there were open-access, properly working, pay-as-you-go charge points everywhere then I don’t mind losing out on cost when I have to use them. Don’t think it will happen though. Too much money to be made by keeping it complicated and difficult to use.
August 18, 2021 at 4:18 pm #162271OK tharg, you’ve convinced us, we’ll let you off from getting a BEV lol
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.August 18, 2021 at 9:53 pm #162293Cheers, Brydo. I’ll stick with my ICE T-Roc IF it ever gets build and/or delivered.
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