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- June 10, 2020 at 10:36 am#114894
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Would you swap to an electric car if they were £6,000 cheaper? Boris may slash the price of zero-emission vehicles for those who ditch petrol or diesel - CreatorTopic
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- June 10, 2020 at 10:39 am #114895
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Government could announce a scappage scheme for only electric vehicles
Motorists who scrap an old petrol or diesel car would get £6,000 off a new EV
Plans could be announced next month, according to report from The Telegraph
It mirrors plans in Germany that are part of a €130bn Covid-19 stimulus package
EV buyers there will receive an industry and government-backed subsidy of €9k
Motorists could soon be given £6,000 by the government if they agree to scrap their existing petrol or diesel car and buy a new electric vehicle, according to reports.The plans, which could be announced as early as July, would be part of Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s plans to relaunch the economy – following in the footsteps of a similar proposal set out in Germany’s €130bn coronavirus recovery plan.
June 10, 2020 at 10:41 am #114896
JaneSorry my title is wrong and could not change it.
June 10, 2020 at 10:46 am #114898Sorry my title is wrong and could not change it.
I have changed the title Jane, I hope it is okay.
June 10, 2020 at 10:51 am #114899
JaneYes thankyou
June 10, 2020 at 11:14 am #114904so long as it brings the ap down,sure. my second choice this time round was the bmw i3 but the ap etc was £1k more than what i went for. had the aps been the same or the electric lower then i would have swopped.
the ap on the i3 has been coming down so in 3 years time who knows it may be an easier choice.
June 10, 2020 at 11:17 am #114905
GeorgieIn theory, yes – if there is a vehicle available that meets all my needs and ‘optional requirements’ (minimum 350 mile range with both air conditioner/heating and headlights on, with equivalent power to at least 150 bhp) at a price I can afford (AP of under £1,000). Oh, and fully rechargable in under 30 minutes (which would be only 3 times as long as it currently takes me to fully fill my current, petrol, car).
Will the Offer open to Fleet purchasers? In which case – Would Motability let us change our existing vehicle for an Electric vehicle (at no penalty) in order for them to take advantage of the Deal?
June 10, 2020 at 11:19 am #114906
BrydoIt is my understanding that the cars being handed back need to be actually scrapped. So this will not be applicable to motability who sell all their cars on.
There may be other options made available to motability but this isn’t one of them.
June 10, 2020 at 11:27 am #114907
FootlooseI really fancied the bmw i3s but the AP was I believe steep and left me uncertain but if the AP dropped or a fair discount was offered it would be back on my list as I’m due to select a new vehicle around now but as Scotland’s restrictions have not eased to allow orders I’ll have to wait but hopefully Q3 might bring some pleasant surprises..hope you are all well ?
June 10, 2020 at 12:59 pm #114919Jane how are you I know you had the virus
June 10, 2020 at 1:29 pm #114921
BrydoJane I would swap to a full BEV or PHEV right now, of course we all have our different requirements but the UK as a whole is lagging behind most other developed countries.
I think Georgie’s view is typical of many, both on the forum, and in the general public. Unfortunately our traditional “can do” attitude seems to have deserted us just when we need it most.
Billions£ is being spent worldwide on EVs, and other green issues, but our short sightedness and last century views are leaving us in the slow lane of the biggest opertunity since the industrial revolution which we were at the forefront of.
June 10, 2020 at 1:58 pm #114923
JaneMenorca Mike I’m doing good thanks I have no voice due to coughing .it’s getting less only so tired as not sleeping well due to it so grabbing naps when i can .all other symptoms gone. And luckily no one else in house got symptoms but i kept away from them for a good week.food and drink was placed outside my room I had my own bathroom .when my tray was taken away they took it with gloves and places strait in dishwasher.was hard keeping to one room but i did it for my family .
June 10, 2020 at 2:00 pm #114924
JaneAlso was more so on yoghurt ice cream shakes as could not swollen
June 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm #114934
GeorgieBrydo wrote: “I think Georgie’s view is typical of many, both on the forum, and in the general public. Unfortunately our traditional “can do” attitude seems to have deserted us just when we need it most.”
Settling for something that doesn’t do what it needs to do isn’t failing the “Can do” test. It is settling for something that doesn’t do what it needs to do. It’s like buying a kettle that doesn’t boil the water but only makes it lukewarm, because using less electricity will Save The Planet. Or mercury-loaded light bulbs that cost ten times as much, last half as long (in real life, not in the adverts), are expensive to dispose of without polluting the water table and release toxic gas if you happen to break one.
We could all settle a car with no more than 80bhp, no leather seats, no electric tailgate, etc, ‘Just as long as it gets me from A to B’ but we don’t, because that’s not what we want and not what we often have to pay a lot of money for.
Don’t even get me started on the appalling working conditions of the people digging the Critical Earth Elements out of the ground in order to make batteries for electric vehicles or to manufacture Solar Panels.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/solar/solar-energy-isnt-always-as-green-as-you-think
Also, the electricity needed to charge all these cars isn’t made by magic. I worked at AERE (Harwell) for twenty years, so I do actually know a bit about the pros and cons of ‘renewable’ energy – solar, wave, wind and nuclear.
June 10, 2020 at 4:52 pm #114938Not yet. Couldn’t justify the cost even with £6000 discount or with current range. Sure in about 5 years electric cars will be sensible and sensibly priced for the single car owner of average means but not yet for me.
June 10, 2020 at 8:56 pm #114946
JonathonWhen an ev is released on the scheme that will tow I will consider one immediately, until then Motability are dropping both petrol and diesel for ev’s that quite simply cannot do the job as a replacement!
Very frustrating as a Motability customer for the last 20 yrs to see this and choices very limited for diesel 4wd auto….June 10, 2020 at 9:18 pm #114947I would love an affordable EV that could sensibly tow our caravan, but until then I am more than happy with the affordable Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
June 10, 2020 at 9:37 pm #114949Johnathon. Motability are not dropping Anything they are governed by the Vehicles made Available by The Manufacturers and those that are within the guidelines and caps, even then just because a vehicle falls within the remit doesn’t mean the manufacturers have to make it available (and they Don’t) there will be some that are made available that Motability may decide to not add to the scheme but this is purely a numbers things in the fact the calculated residual value vs discount offered by manufacturers makes it unviable or the residual value vs discount to make it viable would put it over the AP Cap,
End result, it’s a Business and those that are made Available and are within the Boundaries are added, Motability are not favouring Types,Manufacturers etc, they have a formula and stick to it.
I to would love an EV with that capability but I think we have a few years for the industry to advance to make that available let alone Motability.
June 10, 2020 at 9:57 pm #114951Towing ya caravan, Guess thats covid friendly and should be allowed imo. Even though if you don’t do caravans and you hate them on a bank holiday weekend… Only kidding.. I went camping with my 3 bro’s last year for a long weekend away, there was this guy with a remote driven caravan… freakin awesome watching him hook it up..
June 10, 2020 at 10:53 pm #114952A no from me as I know that car doesn’t exist yet either on or off the scheme.
June 11, 2020 at 4:59 am #114954
ChrisThere’s only one car that we will all wish for from 2021 on, if it’s on the Motability list. And this it the VW ID4, do your research and you’ll see what I mean. I had 2 Renault Zoes (back when they could only do 70 miles) and 2 Outlander PHEVs.
June 11, 2020 at 9:38 am #114959
GeorgieID4’s bigger than I need. VW ID3 (77kWh, 340 mile range) ticks two out of three boxes, but it still takes three quarters of an hour to charge in ‘quick charge’ mode. I can still fill the tank of my ICE in under 10 minutes, and that’s if I have to go inside to pay! 5 minutes if it’s Pay at the Pump. Less than that using a dedicated fuel payment App.
June 11, 2020 at 9:49 am #114960Only car of dimensions suitable for me with room for wheelchair (just about) is VW e -Up.
But range is absolute no no for us
June 11, 2020 at 10:24 am #114963
ThargHave to side with the ICE supporters at the moment. EVs are still working out how best to use their tech and engineering to make them usable machines. Also, the “greenery” of electric power, as Georgie says, is debatable. For example, much praise recently for UK going coal-free on power generation. Did this by burning what were called “carbon-neutral” wood pellets.
Supporters of the wood-pellet scheme (i.e. those that sell ’em and those in power who let them do so) claim carbon emission from burning is offset by new trees being planted and eating up carbon. Environmentalists challenge this as pure propaganda. The UK alone would consume 9 million tonnes of the stuff each year (according to Drax power station spokeperson). I really don’t believe that 9 million tonnes worth of new trees are planted for this use every year. It would have to be hundreds of millions of tonnes to include other users!
Moreover, source of this material is the USA – that’s quite a lot of carbon put out getting it here. I reckon the only way to get real clean electricity is using nuclear power and we’ll never do that properly because the mark 1 human being is just too greedy and corrupt. Corners will be cut, cheap stuff will break down, incompetent officials/managers will take wrong decisions with disastrous consequences. Same applies to disposal of waste nuke material.
June 11, 2020 at 11:01 am #114967I would really like to make the switch to electric. But I’m stuck with the fact I can’t charge at home. I have a garage but it doesn’t have power to it. My house is privately rented and the landlord has no intention of paying for the work that would need to be done.
Current Car
KIA Sportage GT Line Mhev
Previous Cars
Peugeot 5008 Allure Premium
VW Touran SEL
Citreon C4 PicassoJune 11, 2020 at 11:58 am #114972the charge point would be free for a car on the scheme i think it applys to all of them, it certainly did for the bmw i3 when i was looking at it. i dont have a garage but they said they could still do one on the outside wall and my landlord is more than happy to let me have one.
when you decide to have an ev they arrange a survey etc to see where they can fit one before the car is finalised. if your interested i would check with the dealer of the model you like you may be suprised.
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