Mandatory speed limiters on UK cars from 2022

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  • #162291
    David Lewis

      I didn’t find out about this until today.

      Any opinions ?

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    • #162300
      Glos Guy
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        If you couldn’t override it then I’d be very worried, as they would be downright dangerous, but you can by just putting your foot down hard on the accelerator which is what you would do anyway when overtaking. So a system that by default stops you speeding but allows you to override it would be fine with me. However, given the poor standards of driving that you see nowadays, I can see more head on collisions with people taking too long to overtake. For example, if you are on a road with a 60mph limit and you come up behind someone doing 55mph, if you only overtake them at 60mph you are on the wrong side of the road for far too long to overtake safely. I can see a lot of drivers being reluctant to use kick down (or equivalent) and therefore performing very dangerous overtaking manoeuvres.

        #162308
        Wigwam

          A lot of cars already have speed limited fitted.  You can set them to any speed you like and overrde the setting by flooring the accelerator.. I don’t see anything other than mandating their inclusion in cars built after 2022. This is not about having to use them!

          #162310
          Glos Guy
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            A lot of cars already have speed limited fitted. You can set them to any speed you like and overrde the setting by flooring the accelerator.. I don’t see anything other than mandating their inclusion in cars built after 2022. This is not about having to use them!

            Yes, our last half a dozen cars have had this feature, but you have to activate it yourself and I rarely do, other than perhaps a long stretch of motorway roadworks with a 50mph limit where the traffic is too heavy to use cruise control. I had rather assumed (probably incorrectly) that the suggestion was that this would be configured to operate by default automatically based upon speed limits (detected by the Sat Nav and an in car camera, as many cars already have both these features, so the technology exists). If so, that’s a game changer and raises a lot of safety issues but I’ve probably misunderstood.

            #162321
            Avatar photoAbercol
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              Yes, the intention is to use a camera/gps based “intelligent” recognition system, very dangerous as they misread often, certainly in the S-Max it often picked up other roads or GPS errors, setting a 40 mph limit on a 70mph road & missing changes in speed, sometimes in roadworks it would correctly say 30mph, but then not revert back to 70 at the end – for over 60 miles! That would be a royal pain in the arse if the system could not be switched off – and hardly a safe situation.

              Speaking of which, the plan is to allow it to be switched off initially before moving to permanently on a few years later.

              In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.

              #162322
              ChrisK
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                What has to be remembered that these types of so say safety features are dreamt up by well intention idiots in government and a prime example is these idiots still think that smart motorways are safe.

                #162343
                Huffpuffin

                  I could be wrong, but I believe this was initiated by our former masters – the all powerful EU!!

                  #162344
                  Oscarmax
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                    As from May 2022 all new car will be required to be fitted with speed limiter, apparently the limiter is set at 112 mph they can be switched off, tell me if i am wrong I believe all new Volvo’s are now limited to 112 mph already, the new VW ID3 is limited to 99 mph already.

                    Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                    #162347
                    Glos Guy
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                      As from May 2022 all new car will be required to be fitted with speed limiter, apparently the limiter is set at 112 mph they can be switched off, tell me if i am wrong I believe all new Volvo’s are now limited to 112 mph already, the new VW ID3 is limited to 99 mph already.

                      I wonder if they could introduce yet another new rule whereby all those cars with restricted top speeds could be banned from the outside lane of motorways so that I can whizz past at 140mph ?

                      #162349
                      Oscarmax
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                        As from May 2022 all new car will be required to be fitted with speed limiter, apparently the limiter is set at 112 mph they can be switched off, tell me if i am wrong I believe all new Volvo’s are now limited to 112 mph already, the new VW ID3 is limited to 99 mph already.

                        I wonder if they could introduce yet another new rule whereby all those cars with restricted top speeds could be banned from the outside lane of motorways so that I can whizz past at 140mph ?

                        I take it you won’t be driving your new ID3 then, it wont make a lot of difference to our Outlander PHEV I doubt it would ever reach 112 mph, the only way it would reach that speed would be to drive over a cliff?

                        Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                        #162350
                        Ldc7080

                          So I guess that means mandatory GPS as well.  The limiter needs to know where it is to know where to limit the speed.

                          #162351
                          Wigwam
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                            Volvos have had a 112mph speed limiter since last year. All cars in Japan have had a 112mph speed limiter for at least 25 years.

                            #162355
                            Unclebob
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                              Speed limiters have been about for a while …not a cruise control, so you need your foot on the accelerator but when you preset the speed it stays at the desired limit…yet can be overridden if you slam your foot to the floor.

                              go to 1.47 mins
                              https://youtu.be/V__ihlkkM88

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