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Do you think they’ve got the prices mixed up on the website?
I mean, it’s super great that the Skoda Eniac has come down so much booked an ID5 for 2 1/2 grand seems too much like a good thing??
Unfortunately, I’m looking for all electric are very affordable, full four-wheel-drive large SUV.
Only full 4wd is crap base spec X-Trail (shame I’d jump at higher specs!), the Tucson top spec hybrid (but only 30 odd MPG)….
Was hoping to see what Volvo offered but alas nothing – But an I.d 5 for £2.5k in RWD is very tempting!!
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I thought I’d take a look at this database (EV Database) you refer to. In reality it calculates the miles per kWh by dividing the battery range of the car by the battery size and theoretically uses an alogrithm based on temperature e.g mild been 23c with ac off (how many weeks do we get 23c in the UK). I’m by no means having a pop at you but really it’s nothing someone with an ounce of mathamatical knowlrdge can’t do at home at their own computer desk. Real world driving I can’ see it being highly accurate in the real world with the majority of EV’s, unless maybe you’re tootling to the shops and back. Put it this way I have my reservations about such a site but hey I could be wrong..
The reason I refer to EV Database is because it is used as a reference by peoples far more knowledgeable than me. No test will be perfect but it is a lot closer than WLTP and can be anything from slightly under or slightly over. The numbers I got for both of my cars were pretty accurate and several others have confirmed that they weren’t far off for them as well.
Yes the maths is simple and still gives maximum range possible in those conditions, which means from full to needing a tow to charge, and we all know that we usually have a buffer at the lower end and we’ll rarely fill up to max. So what we find in real life is always less, with the exception of efficiency.
I started off with an equally high level of scepticism, which is my usual approach anyway, but it is a fair bit more accurate than anything else I’ve seen.
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The reason I refer to EV Database is because it is used as a reference by peoples far more knowledgeable than me. No test will be perfect but it is a lot closer than WLTP and can be anything from slightly under or slightly over. The numbers I got for both of my cars were pretty accurate and several others have confirmed that they weren’t far off for them as well. Yes the maths is simple and still gives maximum range possible in those conditions, which means from full to needing a tow to charge, and we all know that we usually have a buffer at the lower end and we’ll rarely fill up to max. So what we find in real life is always less, with the exception of efficiency. I started off with an equally high level of scepticism, which is my usual approach anyway, but it is a fair bit more accurate than anything else I’ve seen.
Interesting. I will have a play tonight when I get 5 and see what calculator I can come up with based on our seasons 🙂
@kezo @MFillingham Thank you guys.
You’re welcome. Can I ask a few questions?
What does your daily driving look like?
Do you take regular longer trips?
Do you know the rough profile of your mileage so far, town driving, A roads, Motorway speeds?
there are EVs suited to different driving styles. The ZS I have currently is great around town, actually gts very close to and occasionally above WLTP around town, however the minute you go above 60mph you can see the efficiency drop significantly. Most SUV/Crossover types will have similar issues as they have to push through their wind resistance that much harder to get to 70, although the Enyaq is reported to be really efficient at these higher speeds.
As usual driving style, rate of acceleration, lateness of braking and how violently/gently you take corners all make a difference to the efficiency and therefore your range. I started at 2mpkWh when I got the ZS but after turning the auto hand brake off and allowing the regen to slow the car more I quickly got that up to 3.5 and, if I do it right 4.2.
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MFillingham sorry I may not have been clear in my post. The 321 miles is the total amount of miles I have done after TWO charges from 20% to 80% not one. I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. Poor planning and research on my part definitely. And what you said about people taking cars because “wow that’s a 50k car that I’d never be able to afford privately” is spot on in my case if I’m being honest. You know the saying a fool and his money… just have to put it down as a learning going forward and not make the same mistake again
Naz
Hope you are able to change the car for another
Act quick as see no reason from my own experience why you should not get back 2/3 of your original Pro Rata AP
With a reasonable reason motorbility will do this
Trying not to get put off by the reviews on the id.5 is difficult!
There are many YouTube videos on the ID.5 and the range is one of the few plus points they generally speak about! Maybe getting the Heat Pump installed instead of the bigger tyres would have been a better shout! Hindsight..
Could be back to square 1 again. Of only the missus would get the Skoda! Past problems with a Fabia have ended that idea (I know…)
£2.5k for an ID.5 – barley any motorway miles
Or
£8k for the Ionic5 or EV6
3 years and hand it back.
Some really good info from Nas on the ID.5, and surprised its quite difficult to ingress\egress.
That in itself is a howler, and unexpected. I do hope you have a positive outcome on your situation Nas.
Certainly when you try a car in the showroom, it is deceptive because of the flat floor.
Most often you will park at the roadside and getting in and out when there is a curb is very different. It is not so easy.
I mean it is a bargain the id5 for that ap but reviews are not kind mostly about price tag.
Ev6 is alot of money you ain’t getting back.
Maybe Q4 worth a look at 6k.
I just want a good diesel SUV which are in short supply now Tiguan removed.
Hi Wmc
Had a look at DS7 unfortunately no adaptive cruise control on that model which is a deal breaker.
Had a look at Tiguan allspace but only petrol engines.
I have just come back from the vw garage,how they can justify a price for this car is stupid,it reminds me of a mk1 escorts inside no luxury or feeling special for the price,skoda enyak same underneath but light years ahead with the interior
Trying not to get put off by the reviews on the id.5 is difficult! There are many YouTube videos on the ID.5 and the range is one of the few plus points they generally speak about! Maybe getting the Heat Pump installed instead of the bigger tyres would have been a better shout! Hindsight.. Could be back to square 1 again. Of only the missus would get the Skoda! Past problems with a Fabia have ended that idea (I know…) £2.5k for an ID.5 – barley any motorway miles Or £8k for the Ionic5 or EV6 3 years and hand it back.
Why hand it back after 3 years when you can have it for 5.
not having a pop, but i am glad in a way that i am restricted to a max ap off about £1500.
and the tight wad i am tries to keep it nearer half that.
at least naz if you get the ok to swap you will get back a portion of the ap prorata.
not having a pop, but i am glad in a way that i am restricted to a max ap off about £1500. and the tight wad i am tries to keep it nearer half that. at least naz if you get the ok to swap you will get back a portion of the ap prorata.
Hi mitch, restricted or not, I have a maximum AP of £2000 for vehicle on the scheme and don’t plan to go over that amount.
Your Juke is nice, economical and proof you don’t have to put down a fortune on AP!
We had a nice test drive in the ID.5 today.
Yes, the inside feels less than the others available on the scheme – but the pan roof, heads up, windscreen navigation light (v cool) are good.
The car drives great to be honest, again not as nippy as the ionic or ev6 but we’re 40 year olds with 3 kids.
Boot is big. Inside is big.
Range in reviews is good, can add heat pump.
It’s £2500 AP!
We have driven the ID5, EV6, Ionic 5 – wife has ruled a Skoda out unfortunately.
All things considered, we have decided to go ahead with it. Order today – will let everyone know how it goes.
Thanks for all the help/comments
All good Joe, glad you picked a car that ticks all your boxes.
Good job getting it ordered. VW must have a lot of ID.5’s sitting in storage, and needing to move them on.
No other large VW EV is anywhere near that price bracket, get them before they are gone.
In a few weeks they will remove it from the scheme, once they have sold their backlog off!
Interstingly, I visited the VW dealership today to have a look at this magical beast, the ID.5.
But alas, they are hiding or flew off, the dealership had ZERO ID.5’s not on the showroom or forecourt…mmmmm.
Strange that according to Mota c la r i t y the ID.5 is 35mm lower than the ID.4.
It was something Nas said about his ID.5:
‘Ride Height not much better than a standard saloon’
Hi Berty,
<p style=”text-align: left;”>They had loads of id5 at coulsdon vw, yesterday, showroom was quite busy. Sat in a black one, very nice, big interior, smallish boot for size of car. Lovely pano roof, as the interior is all black. Not the most premium feeling interior, but at the asking ap. Its a no brainer. Plenty of battleship grey and blue colours, parked in the forecourt. If electric is for you, get one before its removed.</p>Agree, lovely car. Ignore the reviews they get hung up on the infotainment, which has been updated since most were done, helps a bit. Heads up is part of tech pack though isn’t it?
Went to have a look at one today. I was surprised at the interior, it was much better than I expected it to be. The big disappointment is performance with a 0-60 time of around 10 seconds. Normally electric cars are rapid but this one just isn’t.
However, with the £750 ordering payment and £250 GCB that makes it £1595 and tempting. I was considering the EV6 but over £5k difference pays for a couple of decent holidays away.
So at the moment I’m really unsure.
While I was out, I took a look at the Ioniq 6 and was very disappointed in the quality of the seats in the base model.
I had a look at the ID.5 today, getting in and out was easy.
It seemed very big in the small showroom. The Display model had a sunroof, and it is the same for the Motability grade.
He is getting back to me to arrange a test drive…not sure thats ever gonna happen, got the feeling I shouldnt hold my breath. They would ‘See’ if they can get a hold of an ID.5 for test driving.
Went to the Honda showroom a handful of meters away. Had a look at the HRV. It is niiiice.
Seats are same level as the Pug, very nice inside. No power boot though. The salesman said we could do an adaption, they drill a hole in the handhold on the tailgate and fit a drop down strap. So if you are sold a car with a hole or bung on the tailgate handle, you know what was fitted….lol..
Booked a test drive in that for Thursday. But it is a gorgeous car. A hybrid, but hey ho…
I really want to test drive the ID5 but I know a 0-60 time of 10.4s is going to disappoint me.
The posh version that looks like a normal car inside (Audi Q4 Etron) does 0-60 in 8.5s which is still a little daunting for an EV but, never the less quicker than its family members!
Oh and don’t forget a 1.2 3 pot will pass you eventually ??
‘I really want to test drive the ID5 but I know a 0-60 time of 10.4s is going to disappoint me.’
That for me is not a factor, it is meaningless, besides am used to that in the Pug anyway, so not missing anything.
Its about comfort, not about how quick you can get yourself into serious trouble…lol….
@elliot ‘I really want to test drive the ID5 but I know a 0-60 time of 10.4s is going to disappoint me.’ That for me is not a factor, it is meaningless, besides am used to that in the Pug anyway, so not missing anything. Its about comfort, not about how quick you can get yourself into serious trouble…lol….
It might be fast enough for you but I’m not sure it is for me. Just to let you know the car I have now is no slouch and I have zero points on my licence.
@elliot ‘I really want to test drive the ID5 but I know a 0-60 time of 10.4s is going to disappoint me.’ That for me is not a factor, it is meaningless, besides am used to that in the Pug anyway, so not missing anything. Its about comfort, not about how quick you can get yourself into serious trouble…lol….
It might be fast enough for you but I’m not sure it is for me. Just to let you know the car I have now is no slouch and I have zero points on my licence.
When choosing a new car acceleration times 0-60-x are always high on my list. I’m no boy racer nor a Sunday driver but, its nice to know you have that extra power to get you out of trouble, whether at junctions or getting out of danger.
Asides that Ive always had poweful cars and bikes!
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