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apologies in advance if this is a bit rambling.
as those who have read me before know, i am alone, need an auto and a seat high enough to get in and out comfortably and i currently have a mini countryman coopers auto excl comf/nav etc etc.
in 12 months i can order for march del.
this time in 2020 i was spoilt for choice. i have a budget of gcb £600 and a veterans grant of up to £660 if theres an ap.
as usual the search engine is rubbish i have to include medium cars as if i dont the bmw i3 and the mokka dont show up. so if anyone wants to play along its wpms, auto, med cars,small suv lge suv,max ap £1500,no deisel. which gives 144 options. which equates to 33 differentish cars.
now a year ago i could have any jeep renegade available today just one the 1.3 night eagle for £589, the 4wd ltd is almost 8k????
my current car is out of range all i can have is the base cooper s classic. (snobby i know)
anyway wading through the list i come up with some maybes, i am including electric and phevs etc as my mileage is low and in short journies but too frequent to change to taxi’s. in no order:
c4 shine 130ss auto £291 hrv elegance £843 bmw i3s suite £843 renegade 1.3 t4 night eagle £589
kona ultimate £395 puma st-line £241 ds3e rivoli £343 ds3 crossback 130 rivoli £843
juke teckna £343 ds4 130 bastille+ £1143 chr 1.8 design £1489. arkana 145 rs line £1139
c3 aircross shine+ £191 mokka elite premium £95 mokka e ultimate £0.
so the choice reduces by 50% based on looks/size/previous testing.
the c4, arkana,puma and ds4 i would need to try as never sat in one before. the rest i am pretty sure i can get in and out.
the juke,bmwi3s,c3 xback/ds3 xback were all on last years short list.
any opinions? of the manufacturers currently off scheme i cant think offhand of anything i would want, lucky me lol.
i lie a couple ive seen not in the flesh are the toyota aygo x and the yaris cross if the seating works the pictures ive seen look promising.
is there anything perhaps due in in the next 12 months worth watching out for??
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The mokka e and the kona look like good choices if you can go electric. Big saving on ap compared to the ones at the top end of your budget plus you’d save on fuel over 3 years (maybe another £1000?).
If there’s nothing on your shortlist that stands out over the others you may as well go for the cost effective option. The Kona gets good reviews and I don’t know about the mokka but it certainly looks niceA year away – a lot may change.
I would consider going electric if you have off road parking. Kona is a fantastic car if you can fit in it. That would get my vote or even the amazing Ioniq if your a local driver but it may be a bit too low as it is a saloon car.
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charging is my only issue with bev’s, no offroad and i am 10m from the road. but the place i go for physio has a charger for 2 cars ive been checking it on zapmap periodically and one or the other seems to be out of order at any time. and in this part of derbyshire theres not much else in 5 mile radius.
that said i could make it work with effort. i like the i3s it has that different vibe about it.
If you don’t have off road parking, I’m not sure Motability would lease you an EV (at the moment). Does anyone know if this is right?
Also, without home charging, it would be ambitious to run an EV, not impossible mind.
The i3 is different!
Actually, I have a friend who doesn’t have a home charger, so maybe you can order an EV.
I’d talk to Motability before you go too far down the EV route.
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Mitch,
If your current car is still suitable, don’t forget that as a WPMS recipient, if you extend your lease you will get a weekly rebate from Motability of currently £7.25 per week during the extended lease period.
So, if you extend your current vehicle for another two years and save the rebates up, you should have a further £754 to put towards your next cars AP (It will actually be slightly more with annual increases in WPMS).
By that time (2025?), things hopefully will have settled down regarding semi-conductor shortages/covid etc. Also the electric/phev options may have more infrastructure available to you.
Also, should a ‘bargain’ suitable vehicle appear on the scheme during your lease extension period, you are free to pounce on it and cut short your lease extension.
ah, i hadnt thought of that BigDave given my current v low mileage that nay be an option. i was considering leaving and getting a 2nd hand car but bad start to the new year looks like i am going to be unemployed soon and at my age i am not going to be top of anyones recruiting list so chances of anytype of finance has prob gone. so that option may be attractive.
If you don’t have off road parking, I’m not sure Motability would lease you an EV (at the moment). Does anyone know if this is right? Also, without home charging, it would be ambitious to run an EV, not impossible mind. The i3 is different! Actually, I have a friend who doesn’t have a home charger, so maybe you can order an EV. I’d talk to Motability before you go too far down the EV route.
Like you, I wouldn’t entertain an EV without the ability to charge at home, but Motability does allow it. One poster on here (Intranicity) got a Kona EV and was relying on public charging (he lives in a flat) even though he does reasonably high mileage. In the first month or so he seemed to be managing fine. He hasn’t posted for ages so I don’t know if the novelty has worn off and he’s now finding it a faff or whether he has continued to cope fine. Perhaps if he reads this he might update?
in the next year we’ll see a lot change and loads of charging stations popping up so I wouldn’t worry about home charging, most people only require a weekly charge.
A guy at work has an ev now for a year and although he could have an ev charger at home isn’t bothered and hasn’t had one issue in charging and says that a lot we read is not true
i think it will depend on mileage and personal circumstances on how troublesome it would be . but have to say it was putting me off a bit when it appeared i couldnt get a home charger
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistIf there were one thing Motability Operations Ltd. could do to really help their ‘customers’ it would be using some of their vast financial resources to bring the APs for automatics down to match the APs on the manual equivalents. Having to pay almost double because the client has no choice but get an auto is, and always has been, outrageously unfair.
Of course, what they would probably do, if they ever thought of it at all, would be raise the APs on manual vehicles to match the auto prices. After all, Motability Operations Ltd. is a business, not a charity!
Of course, what they would probably do, if they ever thought of it at all, would be raise the APs on manual vehicles to match the auto prices. After all, Motability Operations Ltd. is a business, not a charity!
All that would serve to do is drive away (sic) customers who can use a manual vehicle. Also the many carers, spouses, parents of disabled children etc who drive because the disabled person is unable to.
covering cost of autos across board would cost motability well over 250 m a year. guess thats as good a reason as any why they dont do it.
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistsorry but what is this about getting rebate on extended lease sorry can’t quote post ave never heard of this before.
Hi Maurice
The rebate only applies if your an ex-service military personnel who can claim WPMS.
I’m not in that category so can’t tell you anything about it but if you are someone will be along soon to tell you all about it I’m sure and how to claim should you be an ex-service person.
sorry but what is this about getting rebate on extended lease sorry can’t quote post ave never heard of this before.
It occurs if on War Pensioners Mobility Supplement (WPMS), due to WPMS being £7.25 (currently) per week higher than the other Motability qualifying allowances.
As the initial AP paid on a scheme vehicle is amortised over the standard 3-year lease, War Pensioners would end up paying £7.25 per week extra during the extended lease period.
To ensure all customers pay exactly the same during extended lease situations, Motability refund this extra £7.25 per week to those on WPMS.
no not military
might deserve it but seems unfair they get 7 week more and cheaper advance payment tho as we all disabled to use mobility scheme
no not military might deserve it but seems unfair they get 7 week more and cheaper advance payment tho as we all disabled to use mobility scheme
Maurice,
It is really down to the fact that WPMS (and its predecessor the War Pensioners Vehicle Scheme) pre date the civilian mobility allowances by many years.
When the government of the day later introduced the civilian Mobility allowance, they chose, for whatever reason, to set it at a lower rate than the prevailing rate of WPMS. They also did not incorporate certain other things WPMS recipients receive such as the automatic transmission grant etc.
To this day the civilian allowances (DLA/PIP) have remained lower than WPMS as they are both increased annually by the same metric.
The lower AP’s for WPMS recipients reflects the fact that the WPMS weekly rate is higher. But WPMS and DLA/PIP/AFIP recipients both pay exactly the same amount overall for a vehicle over the course of a three-year (or extended) lease on the scheme.
However, the government back in 2004 did make changes to the military allowances for those injured in HM Armed Forces on or after 5th April 2005. They introduced the Armed Forces Compensation Scheme and subsequently the Armed Forces Independence Payment (AFIP) which they set equal to the lower civilian DLA/PIP ate.
Thus, there will become a point in the (hopefully distant) future when all of us ‘more mature’ injured/disabled veterans, who were injured pre-2005, will die off and WPMS will cease to exist.
Everyone will then be paid the same (lower) rate.
However, as I explained above, basically the present situation occurred when the then government of the day set the civilian Mobility Allowance lower than the military one!
the difference is also to do with the repeal of crown immunity, pre 2004 you could not sue the mod for pain and suffering etc and get compensation. post 2004 you can get a compensation lump sum and the disability payment. quite how they reckon an extra 7 quid a week is worth what we went through lol.mind if i live to 3 figures i suppose it would represent a fair bit of change over 50 years.
although i cant see that happening, twice i have had motability reps say they thought we were all dead already.
@mitch if you see a car on the scheme that fulfils your needs at a price you like. Order it. Don’t dilly dally and don’t look back. Be happy!
I have had some cracking cars on the scheme at great AP prices. I do check the next quarter just in case the AP went down, but that was more about being a grumpy old man.
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than you for the explanation dave
wasnt trying to knock military seens all of us been shafted
got told can’t have grant to help with advance for next car so don’t know what to do
seems extension contract or no car.
I have the C4 1.2 155 EAT8 Shine Plus and love it.
I had it in May 2021 and Civilian Disabled advance payment was £1,195
its now £1295.
I noticed you put £291 War Pension Deposit for the 1.2 130 EAT8 Shine.
well you be pleased to know the top of the range Shine Plus like mine is actually cheaper.
The 1.2 130 EAT8 Shine Plus is £191 and even better for you the 155 Shine Plus version like mine is even cheaper at £139
I’d if looking at Diesel Auto the
1.5BlueHDi 130 EAT8 Shine is £239 of for too spec Shine Plus it’s £839
if you happy to go for a Petrol £139 is a bargain you get a lot of car for the money.
I know if my late brother was here he was on War Pension he broke his back in the Paras, he would love this C4 I got. He had the previous C4 just before he died in 2013 and he loved that car.
@mitch depending on how your left wrist and fingers are you could diverse even more by discounting the cars that dont have electric handbrake,some of the cars will have mechanical handbrake,i know one for sure that is mechanical the Puma.
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