How are the Energy Prices hurting EV Drivers

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  • #191003
    Avatar photoWindy
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      We have now settled our energy tariff for the next 12 months I thought it might be useful for some too see. Despite the increase I feel somewhat blessed that we have a deal that will by pass the Autumn increases and allow another 12 months of cheap motoring.

      The first picture shows current deal ending in 44 days then the new deal starts in second picture the daily rate % increase is eye watering but allowing for what I would now spend on diesel if I still had it the cost of an EV charging at home still remains the only way we are managing to stay mobile. Sadly we loose an hour a day cheap tariff for next year so must make sure I plug in every day regardless of use as in real terms that gives 28 KW max at cheap rate whereas this year we benefited from 35kw so often let it run a couple of days.


      I am the carer / driver for my wife who cannot drive due to disability

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    • #191010
      Avatar photoAbercol
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        We are on a fixed rate till 2023, so still paying 15.5p a unit, no off-peak. Prices had already started to rise when I got the EV so I stuck with my fixed rate deal.

        Even at your peak rate of 40p a unit its still 33% cheaper than our diesel would be based on my average 3.4kw/mile consumption and the diesel on 45mpg. Better still, my work now allows hybrid working so my mileage has dropped by over 12000 miles a year (nigh on £2500 worth of diesel!), so it should not really impact us too much.

        I find it scary/crazy that electricity pricing has risen so much so quickly, triple the old costs with more to come.

        In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.

        #191011
        Adrian

          Yikes, that peak rate is frightening. I’ve been unable to switch to a proper EV tariff (Scottish Power just don’t offer them in my area for some reason – and it’s not like I’m in a little backwater either) so I’ll probably be joining EDF, which lovemyev says will be the best tariff.

          I’ve been toying with solar for ages but I’ve got an awkwardly positioned roof and a couple of installers have said it’s barely worth installing panels because I’d be lucky to generate 2kw on a good day, not even enough to boil the kettle. Didn’t stop one cowboy trying to sell me a 10+kw system for the north facing roof though. So instead I’ve started looking at domestic batteries which can be installed without solar; they just charge up at night on the cheap leccy, then run your household from the battery during the day. I’ve yet to spreadsheet this out but looks like big savings to be had. I found one kit for about 4K+VAT (doesn’t include fitting though) which would power the whole house for the entire day, so basically, apart from the occasions we need to get a full charge on the EV (and a rapid charge at ALDI is cheaper than what we pay now, so we could just top up there!), our electricity could work out at 7.5p per unit all the time. Just need to work out the ROI but I’m 75% of the way there to making an investment already.

          Anyone here got any experience with domestic batteries? I think @gothitjulie was completely off grid

          #191015
          Avatar photoWindy
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            What I always find hard to understand  is the so called average U.K. consumption for your home is between 7 and 10 KW per day, well in a small two bed bungalow we are chuffed if we can keep it lower than 14 somewhere between 12.5 and 14  so I have no idea what more I could do to bring it down

             

            I am the carer / driver for my wife who cannot drive due to disability

            #191019
            Oscarmax
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              We use about 3 – 4 kWh or 5 -7 kWh when the wife goes mad with the washing machine tumble dryer and ironing this time of year obviously a little more in the winter.

              I am looking at a Solax 5.8kW battery

              Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

              #191020
              Avatar photoWindy
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                Well we don’t have an immersion but an oil fired boiler which is off 6 months we don’t have a tumble drier there is only two of us and we have one main meal a day all lights are low energy etc we do have fish ponds which at the most would use a KW per day we do have music on all day but that takes little and we watch 2 or 3 hours of TV at night when house is in low mode at night we are consuming roughly .3 KW per hour which includes pond, I have never been able to work out why at one point a few years ago it went up to 22 a day ironically just before we switched from EDF consuming all the money left in the account conveniently. We were looped to next door then but unlooped for the charger.

                so my conclusion is I have an electric leak ?

                I am the carer / driver for my wife who cannot drive due to disability

                #191023
                Oscarmax
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                  Windy I have been with Octopus for the past 3 or so years, they removed the old smart meters and fitted some new items, we notices a big drop in bills going from Southern Electric to Octopus, I am still paying less for my gas and electricity with Octopus now than I was with Southern Electric 3 plus years ago, plus I charge up our PHEV

                  Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                  #191026
                  Avatar photostruth
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                    i’m about 3 quid a day now for leccy. plus my gas heating and water.  i could reduce it further, but gotta have some comforts as i dont get out much. no friends nearby now either. so telly(well monitor as i dont do telly as such) is on most all day/night. no cooker now so all cooking is through electic gadgets. then of course car is charged just off normal rate as i dont use it enough.

                    Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
                    Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist

                    #191016
                    Adrian

                      @Windy our average is around 8KWh / day, unless we’re charging the EV (then it’s 70+!!)

                      Three bed link detached, electric oven (that’s not getting much use atm!), my wife is home nearly all day, and a teenage son who loves his (well, it was mine…) gaming PC with a 40″ monitor who stays up until 2am every day…

                      We’ve also got gas heating and hob, and a combi boiler. Do you have storage heaters? Or an immersion heater / hot water tank?

                      #191031
                      Avatar photoMark Holland

                        Oscarmax thats interesting we do have an old first gen smart meter in fact was not used until I went to Octopus

                        did they just come and do yours or did you ask for it to be done.

                        #191035
                        Oscarmax
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                          They just came out, the smart meter must be compatible with their systems, as ours was a new build it was fitted with British Gas meters

                          Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                          #191036
                          Avatar photoPOPS
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                            Just out of interest I bought a heat pump tumble drier recently. It’s considerably slower at drying an 11kg load but it is far more economical to run. Its lower temp and recycled heat is kinder to clothes and better for bills.

                            It may be worth considering if you’re not in a ‘half hour hurry’.

                            #191038
                            Jojoe
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                              British Gas offered us a fixed tariff before our last fix ended last month. I decided not to fix as I’m thinking something will be done by the government regarding pricing, the projected increases in October and January as so extreme, people are going to be priced out of energy.

                              Enyaq EV

                              #191039
                              Avatar photoWindy
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                                Joe joe I do hope your right but alas I fear relying on government intervention may be futile. I fear much of the help given for the first increases were designed as a political distraction from the misdemeanours performed by the government. But your quite correct people will be priced out of energy I think myself social tariffs will need to be applied.

                                I am the carer / driver for my wife who cannot drive due to disability

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