Green paper review of pip system

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  • #277241
    Southamman
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      Hope admin will allow this post, as it can have far reaching consequences for PIP and therefore motability.

      The government has launched a Green paper on proposals to change the PIP system, to benefit “those in need”

      This may include removal of cash payments and replace with vouchers

      There is only 12 weeks to respond before action will go through parliament

      Make no mistake, the aim of this is to reduce costs, and will be in place before the General Election, but I’ve nit read anything from the other parties that any alternative will be offered

      The green paper and the way to respond is here

      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/disability-benefits-system-to-be-overhauled-as-consultation-launched-on-personal-independence-payment–2

       

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    • #277256
      Jojoe
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        The link you posted doesn’t work.

        #277260
        kezo
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          The link you posted doesn’t work.

          Thats similar to the link that @joss moved from a thread I started, to the other related thread on the same topic. It gives details on how to respond, including the ability to respond online 🙂

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          wmcforum
          Which Mobility Car

            Link Fixed

             

            #277270
            MFillingham
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              The timescale is unlikely.  This is a green paper and will be open for consultancy until July, not long after that Parliament has it’s summer break until September.  If Sunak drags his heals as much as he possibly can, Parliament will dissolve on the 17th December, if an election is called before then (and popular belief is November) then we’re looking at no more legislation to be passed  6 weeks before the date of the next election.  That could well mean the White paper that must follow the green paper needs to be issued before recess for the summer and a bill written up for September submission, debate and vote in the Commons, then scheduled, debated and voted in the Lords, with 1st and 2nd readings and all the ceremony, it’s unlikely to be squeezed in that timescale.

               

              To be clear, there are disabled people in many groups who are seriously worried by this consultation.  It’s currently a proposed (hopeful) vote winner for the hardliner Conservative supporters to get behind to stop the scroungers.  It’s not intended to be law in the current term and Sunak himself has stated that this is for the next term.

               

              The ethos is to force those claiming mental health issues to be pushed away from getting extra cash in towards getting help.  The reality is that, if the help were available, most people would have reached out for it.

               

              We must all respond to the green paper as strongly as possible.  Let’s make this crystal clear that the disabled population are not going to be scapegoated and labelled scroungers by this or any other government.  While there probably are some people that are claiming and not working, where they may be able to work, the reality is that PIP is not a replacement for employment but support for those of us who need it to live a life others consider normal.

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              #278278
              Ele
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                The brain storming desperate vote grabbing Green Paper was a dead duck from the off imo

                Now the election date has now been announced the Green paper has to lie dormant

                Best thing to do with the Green Paper and I am sure this will soon happen and that is to simply kick it into the long Green grass,

                When/not if Labour wins

                Be assured that it doesn’t mean it’s the last we will hear of some of the ideas it contains

                #278282
                Rich44
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                  There are some pretty grim Labour MPs in the inner circle so I wouldn’t say we’re safe but I’d take a Labour gov over Tories every time even with Steer Calmer lol

                  #278288
                  Ele
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                    Agree even tho

                    Some cant put the correct shoe on the correct foot

                    Others prefer Flip Flops lol

                    This isnt instilling me with confidence

                    God help us all

                    #278293
                    Jojoe
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                      Trust me, Labour Party members and constituency groups will not tolerate the PLP or any Labour government launching an attack on disability benefits the way the Tories have done recently.  😉

                      #278296
                      Ele
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                        Trust me, Labour Party members and constituency groups will not tolerate the PLP or any Labour government launching an attack on disability benefits the way the Tories have done recently. 😉

                        Time will tell and hope your right,but strongly suspect we are in for a few unexpected surprises

                        I do hope

                        I am very wrong

                        #278537
                        Ele
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                          Suggest a new use for the idiots GREEN PAPER 🙂 

                          #278562
                          Oscarmax
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                            It does not matter which bunch of idiots are in power once elected your going to get shafted

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