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- February 4, 2020 at 11:15 am#105143
TheSUVGuyTried posting the link but it wouldn’t let me, I wonder if this speed up motability to change their rules to allow more electric cars in, I doubt it though.
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- February 4, 2020 at 11:28 am #105147
It’s in the BBC news today SUVGuy.
Petrol and diesel car sales ban brought forward to 2035 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51366123
In the interest of clarity, this is for new car sales. It doesn’t mean that currents diesel/ petrol cars are banned. ?
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February 4, 2020 at 12:43 pm #105157I think it’s good to have a target date that is relatively tight – and there will be at least 3 more general elections before the deadline, so plenty of opportunity to “re-align” the target and then blame the last lot.
Looking back at progress over last decade, major advances are undoubtedly possible during the next.
February 4, 2020 at 1:17 pm #105164
LandymanGood! Only 15 years before we can get a ev then, just got to make sure I live that long. ?
February 4, 2020 at 1:54 pm #105171
GeorgieAs Fuel Duty currently raises about £28 billion a year for the Government I can’t see ‘cheap’ electric lasting much longer. One way or another the Government will want that money back. By 2025-ish I imagine private and public Recharging Points will be metered and the cost of fully recharging an EV will be commensurate with the cost of filling the fuel tank of an ICE vehicle.
February 4, 2020 at 2:57 pm #105175You’re right, Georgie, the only way you’ll be able to keep the costs right down in the longer term is to generate the electricity yourself, probably from panels on your roof & a feed to the electric car seperate from the metered one.
February 4, 2020 at 5:38 pm #105192Steve Berry the auto journalist was on BBC, this morning talking about it. I agree with him that the heavy taxations are coming for EV’s. He thinks ‘pay as you drive’. It’s possible. I think the cost to charge will increase to plug the gap of lost revenue of oil based fuels. It’s the easiest way to do it and the government will not do anything complicated.
Plus there’s road tax. Even now, any EV over £40k costs £455 per year road tax after the first year. An i3 with extras easily slots into this bracket. I think that EV road tax will be based on initial cost plus power output.? I will be remembered for nothing but had great fun doing it ?
February 4, 2020 at 8:00 pm #105213This new target date of 2035 also includes the hybrids, so, manufacturers who have just developed “mild” hybrids to get around the old 2040 date are mighty upset. Perhaps these manufacturers will now get it that they can’t continue selling inefficient SUVs with inefficient fossil engines, they either have to go EV/hydrogen or go bust.
February 4, 2020 at 8:31 pm #105216Pay as you drive is definitely the favourite, adding to the price of electricity used would probably be a bit to difficult to implement.
How they monitor it will be interesting, although with all the tech that’s coming it will not be difficult in the future.
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Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.February 4, 2020 at 10:47 pm #105220manufacturers who have just developed “mild” hybrids to get around the old 2040 date are mighty upset.
Given that most manufacturers work on a 7/8 year cycle for each model, I don’t think the bringing forward of the ban has any impact on current models.
The industry needs some tough targets in order to drive innovation: My 1985 Astra 1.6D used to do 55MPG on a fast motorway run and my 2017 Golf 2.0TDI manages just a few MPG more. I am sure the Golf has far lower emissions, but fundamentally we have not really seen any huge strides in efficiency in more than 30 years.
February 5, 2020 at 1:14 am #105232Depends on manufacturer, my old picasso did mid 50’s on a run but my 65 plate 308 SW bluehdi would easily average 75+ on a run unlike the VAG lump I’ve just got rid of that managed to average 30mpg over 43,000 miles with 80% on the motorway, it’s all down to spending money on development and we know that the VAG group did no R & D on their diesel engines for a decade and instead cheated with software to try and save millions.
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