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Report in car dealer magazine about new rules being introduced by the government
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Rapid public EV chargers will have to be reliable for 99 per cent of the time under new government rules.
It’s one of the demands put forward under the Public Charge Point Regulations 2023, announced yesterday, which aim to encourage EV uptake by tackling unreliability and simplifying payment.
The rules say the rapid chargers will, on average, have to be ‘reliable for 99 per cent of the time during each calendar year’, with the providers forced to publish information about their reliability.
EV drivers will also only need one app to pay for public charge points that are run by different firms. At the moment, they have to use multiple smartphone apps or membership cards for different networks.
All chargers that deliver above 8kW of power will have to have a contactless payment feature to speed up the charge, too.
The new Department for Transport regulations aim to make it easier, cheaper and more convenient for people to charge EVs across the UK.
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It’s a necessary step. I wonder what the charger companies will make of it and what Tesla will do as their payment system is in car.
Reliability is essential, I’m bored of ‘arrived at xxx and nothing was working’ it has to be better than that. What happens, though, about chargers that are no longer in contract? There was a number put up in Council car parks in Cornwall under a contract that no longer exists. Whilst the busier chargers have been replaced, there are ones which weren’t getting enough use to be a priority and haven’t worked for either months or years.
D of T has to step up if the 2030 target has even half a chance of not becoming 2050 and this is a good start. I’m sure there are those on this forum who will appreciate that there’s a huge number of chargers that are simply inacessible, whether it’s bollards too close, pavements or space around the car, this has been addressed by British (and other) standards to state what a good installation looks like but I’m not sure there’s much ability to enforce these, whether that’s a lack of appetite or a lack of personnel to check they fit.
Maybe this is something Motability and it’s fleet could help with. A simple survey we can fill out of the stops we make on journeys (something we can do while charging) and they can gather a huge amount of data very quickly, especially with the holiday season imminent. Although, that ship will have sailed by the time the survey and website has been created and publicised.
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Its only common sense. Use legislation to forcing these companies that build the charge network to a
regulated standard. That way every charger will have common access and a simplified payment system.
Just like USB phone charging, they will use whatever standard is approved by the EU.
Its only common sense. Use legislation to forcing these companies that build the charge network to a regulated standard. That way every charger will have common access and a simplified payment system. Just like USB phone charging, they will use whatever standard is approved by the EU.
Your USB statement is incorrect. The USB alliance, which most phone manufacturers are a part of determine the USB standard, those not part of the alliance choose which USB type they use, has nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with costs. Example, all USB types are ‘approved’ but it still comes down to what the manufacturer decides to use and therefore, no ‘standard’ exists but a choice of USB types does.
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Is it not the case that the EU said all phone chargers need to USB Type C, don’t know when it will be enforced but I remember Apple not being happy about it.
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I think most of those contract chargers in council car parks are only 7kw so are under the 8kw minimum charge
Is it not the case that the EU said all phone chargers need to USB Type C, don’t know when it will be enforced but I remember Apple not being happy about it.
the next apple phone has to be usb-c to be sold in eu.
on tesla chargers I use them and I dont have a tesla, if you install the tella app you get option to select charge my non tesla and it will point you to the chargers that have been upgraded with the adaptor to fit your car. my favorite chargers tbh as they are cheaper than everyone else.
I have just purchased 2 USB-C leads to lightning leads from Apple they are an upgrade from the old out dated USB leads, they are able to carry more data fast and the ability to charge at a much higher rate.
Strangely the new Suzuki Across we have order is fitted with USB-C ports.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
The Charge Point Regulations 2023, which are currently in draft form, when the regulations actually come into force will require:
Contactless payment must be offered within 1 year: For all public charge points, including new units with a power of 8 kilowatts or above, rapid charge points, and existing charge points that become public ones.
Roaming payment service within 2 years: Charge point operators must also have enabled a “payment service provided by a third-party roaming provider.
99% reliability: cCharge points must be reliable for an average of 99% of the calendar year. Reliability will only be assessed during periods of when the charge point service is open to the public.
For each calendar year charge point service providers must submit a report to the Secretary of State, detailing things like number of charge points and their reliability levels. Charge point operators must provide a staffed helpline for customers, 24/7, throughout the year and must provide a report on these calls each year.
Clearly displayed prices
The “total price, must be clearly displayed in pence per kilowatt hour”. The price cannot increase once charging has started.Electrc vehicles has said, Prices should also be on prominent digital signage similar to fuel price ‘totems’ which drivers are already very familiar with. We believe this is needed to make price comparisons easy for everyday EV drivers looking to charge up as cheaply as possible on a journey.
The enforcement authority (for the Secretary of State) can request information from the provider. Failure to provide this could result in enacting ‘power of entry’ to the premises without, or with, a warrant, and inspections of premises and land and hand out civil penalties.
Untill the draft is actually enforced anything can change, such as amendments could be made to the draft, A new PM comming through the revolving doors or a complete change of government! It forms part of the Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Strategy announced in 2022 and the goverment vision for for rapid charge network 2020
Like anything the government does, consumers will judge the success of these regulations by whether they see tangible improvements to the charging infrastructure or whether it indeed comes to fruitation!!
Strangely the new Suzuki Across we have order is fitted with USB-C ports.
Typically the case for sometime now, with the majority of vehicles have been fitted with at least one USB C port. USB C also appeared on android phones and other hardware sometime ago aswell.
Are local council has relied on commercial operative for EV chargers, the only council funded chargers in our area are either some obsolete 3 pin or the odd slow charger at the council offices all expensive to discourage use.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
There is also a document Motability had input into called
PAS-1899 2022
Electric Vehicles- Accessible Charging Specification.
it’s worth a read and if any new chargers going in near you request they adher to this spec
vehicles
There is also a document Motability had input into called PAS-1899 2022 Electric Vehicles- Accessible Charging Specification. it’s worth a read and if any new chargers going in near you request they adher to this spec vehicles
Would be nice if Motability could negotiate a fixed charging EV rate for it customers with obvious benefit to those who cannot charge at home, eventually I can see the majority of the vehicle on the scheme will be EV with the odd PHEV.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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