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- March 10, 2021 at 10:10 pm#142055
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- March 11, 2021 at 8:59 am #142065
Badged as a performance coupe so we will never see it, looks stunning though in the mule and concept shots.
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----------------------------March 11, 2021 at 9:24 am #142069Look forward to seeing it in full, not just the sexy “guess what I look like” stuff. Sadly, reckon Stuart is right. “Performance” and “coupe” in the description will have it deemed immoral and therefore censored. Suspect the quoted guesstimates on price (£50K-ish) will also get it excluded. Pity. If it does even half of what is claimed, in terms of styling and looks and it totes around 100Kw plus, then I’d have one in a heartbeat. One lives in hope. Kia really are doing some fine stuff right now. Not afraid to try something new
March 11, 2021 at 9:35 am #142071
MickCThe Stinger was a “dark horse” from Kia in the performance sector,which i quite liked.
March 11, 2021 at 9:45 am #142072Badged as a performance coupe so we will never see it, looks stunning though in the mule and concept shots.
It’s being advertised as an SUV, not a coupe, and the expected price appears to be £35k plus, but even so, hopefully we will see the e-Niro soon and if those prices are correct, could well be on the scheme in 2022
Previous Motability Cars
2006 - 2009 Skoda Superb VR6 2.0tdi
2009 - 2012 Citroen C5 2.0tdi VTR Nav
2012 - 2015 Nissan Qashqai 1.5dci tekna
2015 - 2018 Ford Kuga 2.0tdi Titanium X
2018 - 2021 BMW 220d X drive 2 Series Active Luxury
2021 - 2023 Hyundai Kona Electric Premium SE
2023 - Hyundai Kona Electric UltimateMarch 11, 2021 at 10:12 am #142074Hope you are right, Intranicity. Seems to be some variation on expected price. The £50K figure came from here:
Have to wait for official launch I suppose…
March 11, 2021 at 10:18 am #142075Yes, it’s all speculation, but I hope the £35k is where it will start, KIA are pushing these cars forward and looking for a mass market, the e-Niro was a great example, 1/2 the price of vehicles with a similar range. Personally doubt they are trying to move into the premium market, even though the quality is getting to those levels.
Interesting or crap journalism in the article you listed though Tharg, refers to the car as a CV6 several times, poor proofreading I suspect rather than a different model
Previous Motability Cars
2006 - 2009 Skoda Superb VR6 2.0tdi
2009 - 2012 Citroen C5 2.0tdi VTR Nav
2012 - 2015 Nissan Qashqai 1.5dci tekna
2015 - 2018 Ford Kuga 2.0tdi Titanium X
2018 - 2021 BMW 220d X drive 2 Series Active Luxury
2021 - 2023 Hyundai Kona Electric Premium SE
2023 - Hyundai Kona Electric UltimateMarch 11, 2021 at 10:31 am #142078Too right, Intranicity. Death of proper journalism now nearly complete. Facts not checked properly, if at all. The once-indispensable sub-editor has been buried for decades. That Drivingelectric piece is crap, as you point out – I fell foul of my own criticism, above, and didn’t have time to check other sources.
March 11, 2021 at 10:37 am #142079Both Kia & Hyundai will be releasing a range of new EVs over the next few years, this is just the first one from Kia, and we can look forward to a range of variants.
I put the teaser up to see if there would be a reaction as those of us who follow EVs already know that our best hopes for decent EVs on Motability are probably offerings from Kia & Hyundai, or whatever the Chinese throw at the market via old european badges (MG, Volvo), & own brands (Xpeng etc.).
Also, the massive demand for the best of the non Tesla mid range EVs, the Kia eNiro, has kept it off the scheme, but the attention will now switch to the EV6 & maybe, just maybe, we’ll get the long awaited Kia eNiro on the scheme for a while.
March 11, 2021 at 11:07 am #142082
sifAll these super sexy slippy shaped cars aren’t really the point are they, for everyday use. We want a box and a spacious box, we want to sit up high. To cram kids, wheelchairs, dogs, sports equipment and holiday stuff in the back. The real breakthrough with EV batteries will only come when they produce some good SUVs. They sell in huge numbers because that’s what people want. And yes there’s a market for low slung, not much room in the back teardrops, but its not a big market. Endlessly chasing headline range figures isn’t going to give the public what they want until they start putting out decent long range SUVs. When they do I will be first in the queue.
March 11, 2021 at 11:11 am #142085
sifI don’t know if you are a blood donor, Gothitjulie, but if you are put me down for a pint. Anyone who can get so inspired over this could definitely give me a lock-down boost. Now if it were the second coming I might open the curtains.
March 11, 2021 at 11:36 am #142088I don’t know if you are a blood donor, Gothitjulie, but if you are put me down for a pint. Anyone who can get so inspired over this could definitely give me a lock-down boost. Now if it were the second coming I might open the curtains.
Used to be a blood donor many years ago, O negative universal donor, they liked me.
I’m not sure where the inspiration comes from but I’ve always had it, I’ve always been the impetuous bouncy one who adopts tech fairly early. Examples would be things like being at university & returning to the parentals on a train, & I’d be listening to music with headphones on, then I’d want to change the tape, but wait, that’s not a Sony Walkman, it’s a Sony Discman II, & the onlookers are shocked that some young student type is changing the CD, & it’s only 1986. Many years later I used mini disc players in the same way although who uses minidiscs now? As for mobile phones, I adopted them once they shrunk to a reasonable size, around 1992, and I phoned my partner from the bath to request more Champagne & they couldn’t quite work out just how I could phone the landline from the bath… I’m decadent of course, I always find a way.
The other side of me is the helpful side, a couple of days back I’d plugged the car into a brand new 7kW post at my usual supermarket & a woman approached me to ask if it was easy to use as she had just ordered a BEV herself & was nervous. I showed her how it all worked & how easy it was. I guess for many women it’s just having another woman to ask, wheras I’m the type that works it out for myself but wouldn’t ask a man either (I run with the idea that if a man designed & made it, it must be very simple).
As for getting inspired over EVs, I’m a scientist, science involves spending hours peering down a microscope to understand what you’re seeing, EVs are much simpler yet more exciting.
March 11, 2021 at 4:32 pm #142116“We want a box and a spacious box, we want to sit up high. To cram kids, wheelchairs, dogs, sports equipment and holiday stuff in the back.” Well, not all of us, sif. I do appreciate that there is a dearth of proper EV SUV types on the scheme, especially ones that will take a big powered scooter. But there is also a lack of ordinary saloon or hatchback EVs. Of the nearly 60 EVs on the scheme listing, about half are saloon/hatchback types, the remainder being crossovers and/or SUV or people carrier types. Of the “super sexy slippy shaped cars” most are the small Vauxhall or the Nissan leaf or tiny town-cars which will take neither shopping nor a ‘chair.
At present I only need a motorised shopping trolley with the potential to take a wheelchair once in a while. Not a crossover or SUV, thank you, I have problems climbing up and down to access them. Thus, I have an ICE Mini. Like to have the EV one when, and if, any Mini hatches get back on scheme. The ID3 holds some promise but it still has the pumped-up Crossover gene in it. To get an ordinary car-sized EV, I have to look at Teslas and the like – damned expensive and not ever going to be Motability cars. Of the forthcoming EVs, this new Kia looks quite good for me; still a bit big though. A two door would be better! ?
March 15, 2021 at 7:35 am #142430WOW
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----------------------------March 15, 2021 at 8:36 am #142436Nice to see designers being allowed to do something different. Certain elements of Art Deco and/or Bauhaus about it. Looks sleek and effective. Would have to see it for real to know how good it actually is. Being touted as rival to ID4 and therein lies a drawback: it’ll be a big crossover/SUV thing. Fine for many, I know, but I would like to see this design applied to a car-sized car. Still speculation about price. If the £32K to £35K is accurate then we might see it on the scheme. Only other drawback? Those wheels. Can’t understand how designers can come up with an elegant, simple shape and then stick those nasty, fussy things on the axles!
March 15, 2021 at 10:16 am #142450Definitely a looker. If only european car designers would show such originality.
I’m bothered by European trends for car interiors too. Here’s the new Skoda Enyaq compared with the EV6. I just couldn’t live with the nonsense of slapping an iPad on the dash like that. What were they thinking??

March 15, 2021 at 10:46 am #142454Yup. That was another good thing about the EV6… it’s got buttons and switches and knobs and all those other real bits you can push and click and turn. Not some AI screen that hates you and refuses to do anything. VW – you should be looking at this. If Kia was doing an ID3 equivalent right now, it would blow the VW away!
March 15, 2021 at 11:08 am #142458Single & dual motor, two battery sizes.
I like the simplicity in the styling & the interior styling is helped by the new KIA badge design.
Agree with Tharg on those wheels, they look as bad as the wheels on my Pug e2008 GT, but you could always put “mags” on (magnesium allow wheels to cut the rotating mass down, thus improving efficiency without needing to resort to questionable “aerodynamic wheel designs”).
March 15, 2021 at 12:27 pm #142474New Kia EV6 electric car unveiled with latest design language
The launch of the new Kia EV6 electric crossover ushers in a fresh new look for the Korean brand

Kia has revealed its new electric only EV6 crossover, a car that ushers in a new design direction for the Korean brand, representing its “shifting focus towards electrification.” The Kia EV6 is the first in a line of new electric only cars as part of the brand’s Plan S business plan, which will see it launch seven new EVs by 2027, all of which will use the EV prefix.
The EV6 is Kia’s first car based on its new E-GMP electric car platform and we can see from the pictures that the front-end styling reflects its power source, with a very slim grille flanked by headlights that wrap around onto the front wings.
Kia calls this new design the “Digital Tiger Face,” an evolution of its previous Tiger Nose Grille for the electrified era. The EV6 will also be the first Kia to use the company’s controversial new logo.
Electric cars need very little airflow as the hardware doesn’t need cooling like a combustion-engined car. Despite the compact drivetrain, the EV6’s bonnet has a pronounced sporty-looking dome, flowing back to the heavily raked windscreen. The coupe-like roofline tapers to a chopped-off tail to help aerodynamic performance.
The EV6 embodies Kia’s latest design direction under the philosophy of ‘Opposites United’. This is formed of five key design pillars that Kia calls: Bold for Nature, Joy for Reason, Power to Progress, Technology for Life, Tension for Serenity.
According to Kia, these five areas are the inspiration behind the EV6’s shape and proportions, the car’s feel and ambience, the evolution of the brand’s design strengths, its adoption of new technology and innovations (including the power source, of course), and the balance of the car’s look respectively.
The EV6’s E-GMP underpinnings have also allowed Kia plenty of freedom with the interior design, as packaging has been optimised for the car’s battery and electric motor, freeing up more space inside.
One of the interior’s key elements is a new infotainment system, called the Audio Visual and Navigation (AVN) screen. This high-definition curved panel looks ultra-modern and evolves Kia’s infotainment further. Its current cars’ systems are strong, so we’re hoping for further improvements here, too.
Along with the wide, curved screen, the slim dashboard houses a digital driver display and the climate controls, which use ‘buttons’ that give haptic feedback. Below the air-conditioning controls, the dash slopes away towards the front of the car “creating a sense of space and openness,” according to Kia.
The front seats are slim and lightweight, and trimmed in environmentally friendly fabric made from recycled plastic.
Kia has moved leaps and bounds in design terms over the last 15 years since the brand hired designer Peter Schreyer in 2006. The German stylist revamped Kia’s line-up for the European market before leaving the brand in 2018, with Karim Habib, Senior Vice President and Head of Kia’s Global Design Centre, responsible for the new look.
“EV6, as the first dedicated Kia EV, is a showcase of human-centred, progressive design and electrified power. We strongly believe EV6 is a compelling and relevant model for the new EV market,” he said.
“With EV6 we aimed to create a distinctive, impactful design by using a combination of sophisticated, high-tech features on pure and rich volumes, while providing a unique space as a futuristic EV.”
Kia EV6: motors, battery and charging
Kia’s new E-GMP architecture is the same as the underpinnings used by sister brand Hyundai’s Ioniq 5, so we expect the EV6 to have access to the same range of battery and electric motor options as the Hyundai.This would mean the choice between a 58kWh and a 72.6kWh battery pack. An entry-level rear-drive single-motor set-up could offer 168bhp and 350Nm in the EV6, while rear-wheel-drive single motor models featuring the big battery will likely offer 215bhp and the same amount of torque.
Four-wheel drive as part of a dual-motor arrangement should also be offered; if it mimics the Ioniq 5 a version powered by the 58kWh battery will offer a 161bhp rear motor and 71bhp at the front – plus a combined 650Nm of torque – while the larger battery option should offer the same total torque output, with 208bhp at the rear and 94bhp at the front.
The longest range EV6 should deliver a maximum of around 300 miles cruising between charges.
This is where the E-GMP platform unlocks big benefits too, because with 800-volt electronic architecture the EV6 will accept up to 200kW charging. This means a 10-to-80-per-cent recharge in just 18 minutes, or around 62 miles of range added in as little as five minutes.
The EV6 will go on sale later this year, with a potential starting price of around £38,000, meaning all EV6s should qualify for the £3,000 UK plug-in car grant.
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Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.March 15, 2021 at 1:00 pm #142476
sif‘latest design language’ you are a sucker for anything new. Made for marketeers. Can you even explain what exactly is the latest design language, what is a design language? Does such a thing exist, how often does it change and why does it change.
I once used to translate and write summaries for foreign language design mags. One particular stuck with me and influenced my thinking ever since. It was in Italian and was about the scythe. The design has not changed in two thousand years. It is exactly the same, since it was designed perfectly for its function. The writer pointed out that since, if kept sharp, scythes would last forever, makers of scythes had to find new ways to make people buy. They fiddled with handles, surfaces, scrollwork, engravings, colouring. None could surpass the original. Since it did the job perfectly. You should not confuse the new with the better. Yes, love it if it genuinely improves things but don’t rush to embrace it if all you are seeing are lines and curves. We all bought avocado bathroom suites. The rush to touch screens has brought nothing but accidents as drivers eyes stray. Lane keepers are great unless you drive down a lane and forget to turn it off. I don’t want, as someone said, a tablet glued to the dash.
If you are constantly seduced by whatever is in vogue you need deep pockets since many automotive innovations are, there for one reason, like newer trout flies, often designed to catch anglers, not fish. They exist solely to stimulate sales.
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