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- March 2, 2020 at 2:59 pm#108156
There is a lot of knowledge amongst us, I exclude myself.
The COVID 19 is dominating the news:
How worried should we be?
Will this be Spanish flu proportions or just another contained outbreak as SARS and MERS were?
Oh – and when will we start to see ‘Just in time’ manufacturing suffer?
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- July 4, 2020 at 7:30 pm #117803
martinoJuly 20, 2020 at 11:16 pm #119787
BrydoCoronavirus: Oxford vaccine triggers immune response
By James Gallagher Health and science correspondent
20 July 2020
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A coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford appears safe and triggers an immune response.Trials involving 1,077 people showed the injection led to them making antibodies and T-cells that can fight coronavirus.
The findings are hugely promising, but it is still too soon to know if this is enough to offer protection and larger trials are under way.
The UK has already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine.
How does the vaccine work?
The vaccine – called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 – is being developed at unprecedented speed.It is made from a genetically engineered virus that causes the common cold in chimpanzees.
It has been heavily modified, first so it cannot cause infections in people and also to make it “look” more like coronavirus.
Scientists did this by transferring the genetic instructions for the coronavirus’s “spike protein” – the crucial tool it uses to invade our cells – to the vaccine they were developing.
This means the vaccine resembles the coronavirus and the immune system can learn how to attack it.
What are antibodies and T-cells?
Much of the focus on coronavirus so far has been about antibodies, but these are only one part of our immune defence.Antibodies are small proteins made by the immune system that stick onto the surface of viruses.
Neutralising antibodies can disable the coronavirus.
T-cells, a type of white blood cell, help co-ordinate the immune system and are able to spot which of the body’s cells have been infected and destroy them.
Nearly all effective vaccines induce both an antibody and a T-cell response.
Image caption Sample from patients are analysed as part of the trial.
Levels of T-cells peaked 14 days after vaccination and antibody levels peaked after 28 days. The study has not run for long enough to understand how long they may last, the study in the Lancet showed.Prof Andrew Pollard, from the Oxford research group told the BBC: “We’re really pleased with the results published today as we’re seeing both neutralising antibodies and T-cells.
“They’re extremely promising and we believe the type of response that may be associated with protection.
“But the key question everyone wants to know is does the vaccine work, does it offer protection… and we’re in a waiting game.”
The study showed 90% of people developed neutralising antibodies after one dose. Only ten people were given two doses and all of them produced neutralising antibodies.
“We don’t know the level needed for protection, but we can maximise responses with a second dose,” Prof Pollard told the BBC.
Is it safe?
Yes, but there are side-effects.There were no dangerous side-effects from taking the vaccine, however, 70% of people on the trial developed either fever or headache.
The researchers say this could be managed with paracetamol.
Prof Sarah Gilbert, from the University of Oxford, UK, says: “There is still much work to be done before we can confirm if our vaccine will help manage the Covid-19 pandemic, but these early results hold promise.”
What are the next steps in the trial?
The results so far are promising, but their main purpose is to ensure the vaccine is safe enough to give to people.The study cannot show whether the vaccine can either prevent people from becoming ill or even lessen their symptoms of Covid-19.
More than 10,000 people will take part in the next stage of the trials in the UK.
However, the trial has also been expanded to other countries because levels of coronavirus are low in the UK, making it hard to know if the vaccine is effective.
There will be a large trial involving 30,000 people in the US as well 2,000 in South Africa and 5,000 in Brazil.
There are also calls to perform “challenge trials” in which vaccinated people are deliberately infected with coronavirus. However, there are ethical concerns due to a lack of treatments.
When will I get a vaccine?
It is possible a coronavirus vaccine will be proven effective before the end of the year, however, it will not be widely available.Health and care workers will be prioritised as will people who are deemed at high risk from Covid-19 due to their age or medical conditions.
However, widespread vaccination is likely to be, at the earliest, next year even if everything goes to plan.
Boris Johnson said: “Obviously I’m hopeful, I’ve got my fingers crossed, but to say I’m 100% confident we’ll get a vaccine this year, or indeed next year, is, alas, just an exaggeration.
“We’re not there yet.”
What progress is being made with other vaccines?
The Oxford vaccine is not the first to reach this stage, with groups in the US and China also publishing similar results.The US company Moderna was first out of the blocks and its vaccine can produce neutralising antibodies. They are injecting coronavirus RNA (its genetic code), which then starts making viral proteins in order to trigger an immune response.
The companies BioNtech and Pfizer have also had positive results using their RNA vaccine.
A technique similar to the Oxford one, developed in China, also seems promising.
However, all these approaches are at the absolute boundary of science and have not been proven to work before.
More traditional methods of vaccine development are also being investigated. The company Valneva is taking the whole coronavirus, inactivating it and then inject it.
In total there are 23 coronavirus vaccines in clinical trials around the world and another 140 in early stage development.
Will the UK get a coronavirus vaccine?
The UK government has struck deals for 190 million doses of different vaccines.This includes:
100 million doses of the Oxford vaccine made from a genetically engineered virus
30 million doses of the BioNtech/Pfizer vaccine, which injects part of the coronavirus’ genetic code
60 million doses of the Valneva inactivated coronavirus
These have been paid for even though it is uncertain which, if any, of the vaccines may prove effective for immunising a nation with 66m people.Kate Bingham, chairwoman of the UK Vaccine Taskforce, told the BBC: “What we are doing is identifying the most promising vaccines across the different categories, or different types of vaccine, so that we can be sure that we do have a vaccine in case one of those actually proves to be both safe and effective.
“It’s unlikely to be a single vaccine for everybody.
“We may well need different vaccines for different groups of people.”
August 5, 2020 at 5:05 pm #121286COVID-19: WHY SCOTLAND VS ENGLAND COMPARISONS ARE MISLEADING
August 5, 2020 at 5:25 pm #121289
BrydoI see no need to compare Scotland and England’s performance with regard to covid. Both have done equally bad, the only reason either government will get “away with it” is the obvious reason, they were dealing with a new virus.
Now we know what this virus can do, this is the time to judge. However comparing the countries serves no purpose other than to pit one against the other.
I suggest all “sensible thinking people” would agree with that.
August 5, 2020 at 5:35 pm #121290I agree entirely Brydo. I was having a pop at Scotland’s dear leader who thinks differently.
September 6, 2020 at 5:27 pm #123344
Mike CooperAlmost 3k new cases reported today,will we see Boris on tv?
September 6, 2020 at 5:36 pm #123346
September 6, 2020 at 6:11 pm #123349
September 6, 2020 at 6:25 pm #123350
Mike CooperStill over 900 cases in the 60+ age groups.I agree the 2nd wave predictions were poor,but the current low death rates will undoubtedly increase in the next 2 weeks and onwards.The older generation,myself included,will be rightly concerned and looking for guidance/assurance from the big man.I surely don’t expect any though.
September 6, 2020 at 6:40 pm #123351Might be best to keep away from places where 15 to 39 year olds gather. Fortunately no-one in our family is in that age group.
September 11, 2020 at 6:02 pm #123646If anyone wants to scare themselves then this exponential growth calculator should do the job.
https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/math/exponential-growth-calculator.html
September 23, 2020 at 8:51 am #124519Panicked by the latest government restrictions? Check your chance of surviving Corvid here:
September 23, 2020 at 8:54 am #124520Score on the door is 97.9992
Joss
Current car: BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In metallic Portimão Blue. 04:10:2025
Previous car:Peugeot 308 GT Premium 1.2 Pure tech Petrol.September 23, 2020 at 12:54 pm #124557Oh look, another graph. Surely the NHS must have got this one wrong, because the government said…
September 23, 2020 at 6:09 pm #124605It’s a good day for graphs. Here’s another (ONS data):
September 29, 2020 at 12:28 pm #125131Corona Virus False Alarm?
September 29, 2020 at 1:31 pm #125143Corona Virus False Alarm? https://we.tl/t-rOcQjBCowd?src=dnl
Wow, that’s five minutes of my life I’m never going to get back.
September 29, 2020 at 3:36 pm #125156September 29, 2020 at 3:40 pm #125158
BrydoWigwam “you say it best when you say nothing at all” lol
September 29, 2020 at 4:10 pm #125159Must be the ‘David Icke’ filter kicking in.
September 29, 2020 at 5:21 pm #125165
Tharg“Lies. Damn lies. And government graphs…” Apologies to Disraeli even though he didn’t say it.
September 29, 2020 at 5:28 pm #125167
Hancock must be very disappointed..October 4, 2020 at 10:43 am #125879
October 4, 2020 at 1:27 pm #125915So wearing a mask/ face covering is helping yeah..What is also funny is that all the graphs from around the world have the same curve no matter the so called restrictions put in place..
All Scaremongering just like after 9/11, just like religion has done for thousands of years, follow the rules or bad stuff will happen and you will go to hell..
I not anti religion before anyone says. I just pointing out the common denominator in all these things.
i get us to do stuff by scaring us out of our witts. It don’t work on me..
With brexeit it was? The ecomony will crash if we vote for it, this is what they do scare us into believing.
What better than you will die or worse cause your loved ones to die or even some random stranger.
or kill the planet
Like how they have put a sugar tax to save us all etc etc. I could go on and on. many do not want to hear the hard truth and that is the same people drop bombs on people, cause wars deplace people and offer solutions to the chaos they cause, over and over.
Plus they will never admit when they get it wrong, Science is becoming a joke imo… Only one narritive is allowed or it’s misinfomation and ridicled and your deleted.
like how the earth was flat and someone said it was round, he was crazy..
Meinwhile the spam of get the nhs tack and trace app goes on and i heard today soon you’ll get £50 in vouchers if you take a test and £450 if you give them your dna and data for a year.. How long till they want to alter our DNA, like they have done with crops and will we still be humans or will a new species be created. I am more scared of totalitarianism than i am of dieing.
October 4, 2020 at 2:08 pm #125920Just a minute. Are you saying the earth is round?

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Hancock must be very disappointed..
