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On my Sportage I am fed up with all the random bings and bongs, many of which I can’t fathom out, some go off with the wrong speed sign showing (eg, doing 31 in a 50 limit); then there’s the pulling to left when a white line is spotted, unless I am overtaking and the car tries to keep me in that lane, not the nearside.
Surely all this ridiculous stuff should be switchable or removed, but Kis state not – but some can be turned off on a per-journey basis.
I’ve only had the car for two months, and totally fed up with it.
I can drive (or could do, until I had this car – now I swerve over the road).
Why won’t Kia let me, without the EU interfering.Surely some of this stuff is actually dangerous.
My question is, can Motability over-rule Kia on this; or they not really interested.? Also, are all cars as bad as the Kia Sportage for all these ‘safety’ sounds and steering wheel vibrations and swerving.?
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MB has no say. Nor do manufacturers.
These are legal requirements for any new car.
As for the stuff in general.. Most of them are annoying, one thing i actually check before ordering is how easy it is to turn them off, and if it can be done without taking eyes off the road.
Nothing you can do. There are, allegedly, ways to do it, but you’d potentially void warranty and insurance, since you’re faffing with legally required safety stuff.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.All of the stuff can be turned off in the main settings menu. Unfortunately when you turn the car of and start again it will be back on you will need to turn it off every time you start the car. Learn where it is turn it off and get used to doing it every time.
As already said, they all need to be turned off every time you start it up but you should have a * star buttons on the steering wheel or dash you can make a shortcut to the menus.
The bongs volume can be set very low so its hardly noticeable, especially if there’s music playing.
For the lane assist pulling you left ir right then there should be a button on the steering wheel that you press and hold for about 3 seconds to turn it off, you’ll need to read the manual on how to do all these things.
@sagittonius I feel your pain. As has already been said, many of these features are now mandated BUT different manufacturers have different degrees of obtrusiveness and ease of disabling. My favourite YouTube car reviewer is Harry Metcalfe (former co founder of EVO magazine whose channel is called Harry’s Garage) and the first thing that he does before test driving any car is turn these systems off. He recently slated one car (from memory a £300k Ferrari) as it was so convoluted to turn the systems off (menu after menu etc) whereas the next car he drove (might have been an Aston Martin) he praised as it was a one button press and done.
I have a Hyundai which, as you may know, is from the same stable as Kia. These brands seem to be the worst for bings and bongs and, like you, it drives me demented, so much so that I don’t enjoy driving the car because of it and don’t think I’d get another. I don’t find the lane assist to be too bad, as my car defaults to it being off and I have to enable it (unless I activate cruise when it comes on automatically). The speed limit assist is a complete pain in the a@se though. Like yours, it detects speed limit signs that don’t apply to the road I’m on (for example, there’s a lane that runs off a road I use regularly that has a 20 mph sign at its entrance, and every time I drive past it on the 60 mph main road I’m binged at telling me I should be doing 20 mph).
I’m sure that they all do this, but what really gets my goat is the fact that Hyundai feel that you need four bings every time that you exceed the speed limit by just 1 mph. If it binged just once I’d leave it on, as I could zone it out and, on occasions, it would be useful, but four times is excessive. You can turn it off with a long press of the radio mute button on the steering wheel, but often this will mute the radio instead and if you are on a phone call it will mute the call! On some days I am in and out of the car half a dozen times and having to disable it every single time is beyond irritating. As well as reducing to one bing, I’d also like the ability to set the warning to trigger at, say, 3 mph over, given that I’m not going to get a speeding ticket for going 1 mph over the limit 🙄 But you can’t. @kezo sent me a YouTube video on a mechanic permanently disabling the speed limit warning, but this also removes the speed limit sign from the dash and head up display, which I wouldn’t want to do.
Even with the Speed Limit Assist off, the car still bings at great frequency and, like you, I have absolutely no idea why. There’s nothing on the dash or head up display to tell me why and it really gets on my nerves, as I find it so distracting. I am seriously considering buying a car that’s a few years old that doesn’t have all these distracting bings and bings so that I can rediscover the pleasure of driving again, something that I have completely lost with the Hyundai.
I must be different then as the bings and bongs don’t bother me and I guess they have changed something as in our Kia I can set how far above the speed limit I want before it warns me, not sure atm how high I can set it
I must be different then as the bings and bongs don’t bother me and I guess they have changed something as in our Kia I can set how far above the speed limit I want before it warns me, not sure atm how high I can set it
That’s very interesting. Would you mind telling me how you can change the parameters of the speed limit warning on the Kia, just in case the same feature is on the Hyundai and I’ve missed it 🤞 I’d love to be able to set it to 10% over!
I must be different then as the bings and bongs don’t bother me and I guess they have changed something as in our Kia I can set how far above the speed limit I want before it warns me, not sure atm how high I can set it
That’s very interesting. Would you mind telling me how you can change the parameters of the speed limit warning on the Kia, just in case the same feature is on the Hyundai and I’ve missed it
I’d love to be able to set it to 10% over!
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Is this link any use, the sales lady is going to show me how to turn off the systems, when we pick up the 6, on the test drive, there seemed to be very few bongs, and it was inkeeping with the speed limit, which incidently, the bloke on the speed awareness course said you should turn it on.
Thanks but annoyingly (having just checked) there is no option to adjust the offset of the Speed Limit Warning in my Tucson. I was very excited, because when I Googled I got an AI generated instruction specifically for the Tucson on how to do it, which I diligently followed (or rather attempted to). However, whilst it is possible to adjust the offset with the Speed Limit Assist system (which physically alters the cars speed when using intelligent cruise control etc) there is no sub-menu or option for altering the offset with the Speed Limit Warning system. AI clearly isn’t quite there yet!
@kezo I recall you mentioning that your Tucson had a software update when it was serviced recently. Any chance you could have a look and see if the ability to adjust the parameters of the Speed Limit Warning (not Assist) has been added please? On mine it defaults to ‘on’, alerting at 1mph over the limit, and can be switched completely off via the menu or by a long press of the steering wheel mute button, but I have no option to alter the offset.
Is this link any use, the sales lady is going to show me how to turn off the systems, when we pick up the 6, on the test drive, there seemed to be very few bongs, and it was inkeeping with the speed limit, which incidently, the bloke on the speed awareness course said you should turn it on. https://www.reddit.com/answers/d377ee2c-7021-43c9-86d0-ce8a6dee7571/?q=Disabling%20speed%20limit%20alert%20for%20Hyundai%20cars&source=PDP
Thanks, but that’s how to turn it off, which I know. Annoyingly, you have to do it every single time that you start the car which on days when you’re jumping in and out of the car becomes a pain in the a@se. What I’m looking for is how to change the parameters, so that it only bings when you are a bit more than 1mph over the speed limit (which is the Hyundai default – and it bings four times 😡).
I have absolutely no doubt that the chap on the speed awareness course would encourage everyone to keep it on! If I could adjust it so that it only warned me if I reached 10% above then I’d happily leave it on. I could even live with it being on with just a 1mph trigger if it was just one bing (especially in 30mph zones where I diligently stick to the speed limit due to kids and pedestrians), but four bings every time you hit 41mph in a 40, 51mph in a 50, 61mph in a 60 and 71mph in a 70 becomes extremely irksome, hence why I turn it off!
Cheers, I will see what happens when we get the 6. I was done at midnight, going 24 in a 20 zone, which had just been introduced. I wondered why the BMW was pinging, as I thought it was a 30, I have driven down the road a thousand times. 20mph, limit all around now in south/outer London. Folks overtake you in anger, but i dont want another fine. The majority of participants at the speed awareness course, were middle aged, only one, caught by police, rest on camera. No one thought it was a fair cop.
As @Rene points out – Regulation (EU) 2019/2144 of the European Parliament and of the Council 1 mandates motor vehicles to be equipped with intelligent speed assistance (ISA) systems from 6 July 2022 for new vehicle types and from 7 July 2024 for all new vehicles. Unfortunately, this still applies here, even though the UK is no longer part of the EU, as it was ratified into UK law.
The same principle applies with EUrope derived ADAS systems, which are reactivated to the on position at every restart.
Owners of european manufactured cars, namely BMW, Mini, VAG and mostly Ford, as well as some foreign cars, there is the availability of alternative coding tools/software, that allows you to turn on/off safety related functions and enable functions that would be dealer chargeable. If you were not confident or didn’t want to buy such equipment, there are manufacturer specific forum members who would do this for you at a small cost. The disclaimer here, is the car is owned by Motability and not us cough!
Hyundai/Kia group are such manufacturers that are not easy without expensive equipment and often the need to sign a disclaimer with the dealer to turn off such functions, which would be charged at the going rate and thats if they are wiling to do it in the first place. Going this route, would almost certainly need apprval from Motability!
However, Hyundai/Kia models with ccNC infotainment systems, you are able to permanently lower the warning volume and turn off LKA & ISLA from the steering wheel, at every fecking restart, but it’s at least a shortcut compared to others where the need to delve into screens is required. Renault may have best system with their Perso settings.
Pre the refresh (ccNC), you were able to turn speed limit warning setting completely off or offset warnings by up to 10mph over the speed limit.
I will look later what, if anything has changed since the service.
I am for a a dongle or the ability to program one however, early attemps seem to ascertain, the systems in question are not possible from the OBD11 port on Korean cars, but I keep trying and currently looking at what could be done with Arduino and or disabling the bing bong speaker by a switch.
@kezo The option to offset speed warnings (as opposed to Speed Limit Assist) by up to 10mph over the speed limit is exactly what I am craving, but I have looked several times and simply cannot find any option to do so. As per the screenshot, the sole option that I have is to turn warnings on or off. If there’s an option to do as you say then it’s so well hidden I cannot find it. If you could walk me through step by step how to do this I would be eternally grateful as I’m not sure that I can put up with two more years of this!
Thanks for the info re the implementation dates. If I buy a private car I shall ensure that it predates the nanny state!
This is what I have on our 72 sportage
Yes thats it and upto 10mph were avail on some of the Hyundai group cars and could be left off if required.
This, though is the old system and was aptly named manual speed limit assist. The new Sportage, like the Tucson along with the groups EV’s will have ccNC and intelligent speed limit assist!
@kezo So, for the avoidance of any doubt, it is no longer possible to adjust the offset (parameters) with Speed Limit Warning, meaning that for our cars it’s either on (with a 1mph over warning) or off, with no other options?
@kezo So, for the avoidance of any doubt, it is no longer possible to adjust the offset (parameters) with Speed Limit Warning, meaning that for our cars it’s either on (with a 1mph over warning) or off, with no other options?
Yes and the best think to do, whils’t driving off from your driveway is to press the volume mute button for 3-4 seconds.
Voice command introduced with the March 2025 update (campaign FR_CRM_UPGRADE (99211Q0C) & CLUSTER (940C3Q0A) can also be used and will be applied a yourupcoming service.
Next year safety systems are taken to a whole new level again, as DDAW (infra-red camera’s), which watches you every move, making sure your looking ahead will be upgraded even further!!
https://exeros-technologies.com/preparing-for-addw-and-ddaw-mandates/
My hopes were raised….only to be dashed! Hopefully there will be enough complaints from drivers that these things may be more controllable in the future, a bit like how buttons are starting to make a comeback as very few people like the ‘touchscreen for everything’ approach, as it’s so distracting (as the bings and bings are).
What I would give to have some of my old cars back (Ford Granada Scorpio Executive, Ford Scorpio Cosworth, Rover Vitesse, BMW 530D etc). I really enjoyed driving those cars. Not any more 😔
My hopes were raised….only to be dashed! Hopefully there will be enough complaints from drivers that these things may be more controllable in the future, a bit like how buttons are starting to make a comeback as very few people like the ‘touchscreen for everything’ approach, as it’s so distracting (as the bings and bings are). What I would give to have some of my old cars back (Ford Granada Scorpio Executive, Ford Scorpio Cosworth, Rover Vitesse, BMW 530D etc). I really enjoyed driving those cars. Not any more
Sadly those days are gone and it’s only going to get worse as time goes on.
Having the Rover 75 recently, but briefly, only served to remind me of days not so long ago, where driving was an upmost pleasure, with only the sound of the V6 heart beating in the backround, not interupted by fecking bing this and fecking bong that. Not that the 220d is much different in reality compred to that of today!
Our previous BMW was a 2021 model and no bings and bongs. I think that, with hindsight, that age is now the sweet spot. A good level of safety aids without the constant aural distractions! I think that’s the sort of age where my money is going next time.
Cars have too many gadgets these days. I was reversing my car yesterday and it started playing a video of someone getting run over by a car…
Cars have too many gadgets these days. I was reversing my car yesterday and it started playing a video of someone getting run over by a car…
You sure it wasnt your reversing camera… Lol..
Cars have too many gadgets these days. I was reversing my car yesterday and it started playing a video of someone getting run over by a car…
You sure it wasnt your reversing camera… Lol..
Hey @Solent60 did you think of getting out and checking 😂😂
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