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- December 28, 2023 at 6:00 pm#252500
Seen a few hoping for it to appear so had a look online. There’s two seals, a saloon and an SUV called Seal U.
First impression was the saloon looked very like the ioniq 6 and the U like a ioniq 5.
I read a few reviews and they’re pretty much the same, Seal just has better interior and quality off interior according to most.
So is it the seals launch control which is pricking peoples interest lol. It is fast
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- December 28, 2023 at 6:19 pm #252502
Certainly fast but according to Top Gears review it has
Over-zealous safety aids, confusing touchscreen, ride lacks sophistication
Best to test drive first imo if it joins the scheme
Reviews can sometimes be misleading imo
Megan E Tec was meant to have had grabby brakes
Thats not the case in fact as its one of the best braking cars I have ever driven ( had 30)
December 28, 2023 at 9:08 pm #252521It has launch control! Even better ?, not as there is really any need for it.
I liked the Han and was hoping it would come to the UK last year, eventually making it to the scheme saddly it went to Europes left hand drive market. It would have ben above the price cap for the scheme anyway, as its aimed at the premium end.
The Seal looks tempting, I like the interior compared to many European EV’s, it on par with the Koreans at least and has decen’t standard kit on both, including heatpump and 354 or 323miles WLTP. There’s plenty of decent reviews and video’s after BYD had ironed out some of the initial niggles and got rid of the Korean style never ending bing bongs. The AWD gets ITAC (intelligent torque adaption control) and worked well in Scotland.
Were not graced with the U yet 🙂
December 28, 2023 at 9:45 pm #252525I saw the Seal for the first time today, I have a BYD Dealership close to me, Saw it in White and in black. I sat in the black, I must say. What a car.
Also, at £45k their is a lot of cars at that price range on the mobility market. You may need to pay down some money for it, I hope it does comes to the market. I spoke to BYD today and I nicely asked about it being apart of the scheme, but they didn’t know. I have heard on here their is no plan for it to be on the scheme either.
I hope we will know as prices are changing on the 1st and some new models may be added.
December 28, 2023 at 10:38 pm #252534I saw the Seal for the first time today, I have a BYD Dealership close to me, Saw it in White and in black. I sat in the black, I must say. What a car. Also, at £45k their is a lot of cars at that price range on the mobility market. You may need to pay down some money for it, I hope it does comes to the market. I spoke to BYD today and I nicely asked about it being apart of the scheme, but they didn’t know. I have heard on here their is no plan for it to be on the scheme either. I hope we will know as prices are changing on the 1st and some new models may be added.
It will join like the rest have, probly not in Q1 but, considering the downturn in in EV sales and the fact BYD will wont to get it out there however, it may only be the RWD model, as Motability probabably have a vendeta on 500 bhp cars lol.
December 29, 2023 at 1:38 am #252539No idea I’d they have a number limit but the 428bhp volvo ex30 didn’t make it
"Man is born in freedom, but he soon becomes a slave, in cages of convention, from the cradle, to the grave."
December 29, 2023 at 1:42 am #252540Us disabled can’t have anything powerful. Well we can but not on the scheme.
December 29, 2023 at 10:06 am #252546Elliot, yes, so terrible that “us disabled” get almost free cars, thatother families can’t even dream of owning.
Seriously, you do need to understand what the scheme is about, and uf you don’t like the terms and conditions, there us nothing to stop you buying your own car and use the money given to you by the taxpayer to fund it.
December 29, 2023 at 10:26 am #252549<p style=”text-align: left;”>From January, motability will get £307 per month for our lease. That’s certainly not free! I like the look of the BYD seal but it’s a long way from joining the scheme in my opinion…. but I see that Fisker are actively talking to motability about joining… cheap enough for a decently low AP as well you would think.</p>
December 29, 2023 at 11:13 am #252555but I see that Fisker are actively talking to motability about joining
Where did you read that?
December 29, 2023 at 11:21 am #252557Elliot, yes, so terrible that “us disabled” get almost free cars, thatother families can’t even dream of owning. Seriously, you do need to understand what the scheme is about, and uf you don’t like the terms and conditions, there us nothing to stop you buying your own car and use the money given to you by the taxpayer to fund it.
I wouldn’t consider £12k plus AP anywhere near free!
December 29, 2023 at 11:36 am #252560but I see that Fisker are actively talking to motability about joining
Where did you read that?
on Facebook. A Fisker advert. Someone asked about motability and Fisker replied saying that were activity talking to motability about joining and to look out for the announcement.
December 29, 2023 at 12:13 pm #252566I just had a look online and the Kona I’m in now which I thought was fast does 0-62 in 7.9 seconds.
Porsche mecan does it in 4.5 seconds
Ferrari 448 spider does it in 3 seconds.
The 4wd seal does it in 3.8 seconds
This was just a quick browse there so I’m presuming these figures are right…
Which means that model will never be on the scheme lol
Oh and 5.9 for the RWD seal
December 29, 2023 at 12:52 pm #252569@des it wouldn’t be unheard of for the byd seal to join the scheme in the rwd 5.9s variant.
I think the bmw i4 edrive 35 is currently the quickest vehicle on the scheme. It’s got a claimed 0-60 of 6s but bmw are notorious for giving overestimations and real life tests show it’s more 5.6.i hope the byd seal joins
December 29, 2023 at 12:58 pm #252570Kia ev6 gt line AWD is 5 seconds, ioniq 6 AWD is 5.1s, ioniq 5 is similar
December 29, 2023 at 1:40 pm #252575I doubt Motability consider 0-60/2 times rather have a limit on the maximum BHP allowed on the scheme.
December 29, 2023 at 2:05 pm #252584If so, I reckon the cap is around 330. Just a wild non-informed guess however, I have no insider knowledge.
December 29, 2023 at 2:35 pm #252589If so, I reckon the cap is around 330. Just a wild non-informed guess however, I have no insider knowledge.
Your probably not far off at that.
My guess would be 350 lol
December 29, 2023 at 3:21 pm #252595I know nowt about it but do recall posts about bhp being limited, but think maybe it’s for ice cars?
Anyways speed does not interest me in the slightest. I’ve yet to be in a car that can’t overtake easily enough and that’s the important bit.
I drove an uncles Sierra cosworth many moons ago and it did nowt for me at all, same with my first mb car the 2ltr TD astra which was fast. Also my EV now has definitely made me more of a chilled driver, not for economy either. I just find it more relaxing than
Back on topic, as the seal and 6 are similar looking outside I do prefer the interior of the 6.
December 29, 2023 at 4:24 pm #252599Back on topic, as the seal and 6 are similar looking outside I do prefer the interior of the 6.
The Seal has a more traditional shape and more headroom in the rear along with a glass roof. I als prefer the interior compared to the 6, which has more hard plastics.
Carmagazine verdict
Any suspicions that the Ioniq 6 would beat the Seal in category after category have been well and truly banished. These two cars, driven back to back, turn out to be very closely matched.
Previous BYDs have certainly been festooned with equipment, largely inoffensive to drive and thoroughly sensible. What they haven’t been is particularly polished, making it tricky to fully recommend them given pricing that’s competitive but not a downright bargain.
BYD is making rapid progress, though. The Seal is by no means perfect, yet it’s a far more competitive effort than the Atto 3 and Dolphin. It’s also the first BYD to do without ‘Build Your Dreams’ being written in large letters across the rear of the car. A small touch, but it speaks volumes about BYD’s willingness and ability to react to buyer’s demands.
Any concerns that 523bhp would be too much for the chassis are largely unfounded, with the Seal only floundering when the stability control is switched off. Leave it on and there’s enough slack for some amusement, but not enough to get you in trouble. The steering is accurate enough even when pushing on, although the Ioniq feels more natural, especially around the straight-ahead.
Comfort in the Seal is undoubtedly better, and it avoids the under-damped, slightly floaty feel that’s present on the Atto 3 and Dolphin. There’s still an agreeable suppleness, now combined with body control that doesn’t go away when you hit some crests and compressions.
The interior quality impresses, too. Whether the flowing shapes and multitude of materials are to your taste is a different matter, but on the whole it feels like a premium effort, just with a different flavour to the norm.
And while it can’t offer as much rear legroom as the Ioniq 6, the Seal’s superior headroom for those in back makes it a better bet for taller folk. There’s also a lot to be said for a light interior with a massive panoramic roof to give an airy feel, making the Seal a far more pleasant rear space.
It’s a close-run thing, but the Seal’s cheaper price helps push it into first place. The Ioniq 6 certainly hasn’t disgraced itself, but a few areas have been brought into sharp focus. For a car that costs over £50k as tested, the interior feels a bit workmanlike in places. The hard door cards feel like they could have been lifted from one of the more value-orientated models in Hyundai’s range, and rear headroom is tight for the tall.
It’s a slightly more organic-feeling car to drive quickly and is more efficient is normal situations, making it well worth a look if you’d prefer something from a more familiar brand. But having driven them back to back, it’s not the car I’d pick.
December 29, 2023 at 6:48 pm #252602On top of this topic, I just orderd a Ioniq 6, Parks were offering a good chunk of money (£750) + my (£750) contribute from the mobility scheme so around 1500 and the total down payment was around 3999 for the top end spec. Luckily they had 1 in stock which was their showroom model and was the exact spec and colour I liked. Took it a test drive and wow. Very similar to the seal, I sat in the seal yesterday but didn’t get to drive it. Comfort wise I would say the seal just wins, but not by much.
I don’t see the seal coming onto mobility, or if it does. I reckon you would be waiting a long time for them. BYD haven’t shown any interest to add it.
Happy with the ioniq 6 purchase though!
December 29, 2023 at 7:16 pm #252604On top of this topic, I just orderd a Ioniq 6, Parks were offering a good chunk of money (£750) + my (£750) contribute from the mobility scheme so around 1500 and the total down payment was around 3999 for the top end spec. Luckily they had 1 in stock which was their showroom model and was the exact spec and colour I liked. Took it a test drive and wow. Very similar to the seal, I sat in the seal yesterday but didn’t get to drive it. Comfort wise I would say the seal just wins, but not by much. I don’t see the seal coming onto mobility, or if it does. I reckon you would be waiting a long time for them. BYD haven’t shown any interest to add it. Happy with the ioniq 6 purchase though!
I can’t see it joining in Q1 or at least not at the begining. Even when/if it joins it will likely be the RWD Design 5.9s. The Atto 3 took 2 quarter to join the scheme, which no one thought it would and the Dolpin joined about 3 months later from when it was first available. By my calculations the Seal will join in at somepoint in Q2, maybe before depending on market uptake.
December 29, 2023 at 7:19 pm #252605On top of this topic, I just orderd a Ioniq 6, Parks were offering a good chunk of money (£750) + my (£750) contribute from the mobility scheme so around 1500 and the total down payment was around 3999 for the top end spec. Luckily they had 1 in stock which was their showroom model and was the exact spec and colour I liked. Took it a test drive and wow. Very similar to the seal, I sat in the seal yesterday but didn’t get to drive it. Comfort wise I would say the seal just wins, but not by much. I don’t see the seal coming onto mobility, or if it does. I reckon you would be waiting a long time for them. BYD haven’t shown any interest to add it. Happy with the ioniq 6 purchase though!
I can’t see it joining in Q1 or at least not at the begining. Even when/if it joins it will likely be the RWD Design 5.9s. The Atto 3 took 2 quarter to join the scheme, which no one thought it would and the Dolpin joined about 3 months later from when it was first available. By my calculations the Seal will join in at somepoint in Q2, maybe before depending on market uptake.
The 6 is a nice car and in many ways on par with the seal. If they put the AWD on in Ultimate spec I’d be tempted 🙂
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On top of this topic, I just orderd a Ioniq 6, Parks were offering a good chunk of money (£750) + my (£750) contribute from the mobility scheme so around 1500 and the total down payment was around 3999 for the top end spec. Luckily they had 1 in stock which was their showroom model and was the exact spec and colour I liked. Took it a test drive and wow. Very similar to the seal, I sat in the seal yesterday but didn’t get to drive it. Comfort wise I would say the seal just wins, but not by much. I don’t see the seal coming onto mobility, or if it does. I reckon you would be waiting a long time for them. BYD haven’t shown any interest to add it. Happy with the ioniq 6 purchase though!
I can’t see it joining in Q1 or at least not at the begining. Even when/if it joins it will likely be the RWD Design 5.9s. The Atto 3 took 2 quarter to join the scheme, which no one thought it would and the Dolpin joined about 3 months later from when it was first available. By my calculations the Seal will join in at somepoint in Q2, maybe before depending on market uptake.
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Yeah! I’d love the awd 325hp model. Although the rwd 235hp still packs a punch. I reckon the awd model won’t be available. Same with the seal I reckon the single motor model may only be available and not the dual motor one.
December 29, 2023 at 11:22 pm #252622Yeah! I’d love the awd 325hp model. Although the rwd 235hp still packs a punch. I reckon the awd model won’t be available. Same with the seal I reckon the single motor model may only be available and not the dual motor one.
7.4s certainly isn’t to be snitched at with the RWD. What range, Miles per kWh are you getting?
Due to where I live and travel I’d be happier in a AWD but, we will see – cows can fly and all that lol
December 30, 2023 at 5:30 pm #252701Mate cut the “free car” BS they’re not free we pay around £300 a month to LEASE a car. There’s even a lot with advance payment now too esp larger cars.
Just cut the free car nonsense it’s exactly the line that the Daily Mail has used against us in the past certainly don’t need someone on here using it too.
No denying it’s a good deal but it’s not and never has been free we pay a lot of money and after 3 years have nothing to show for it. Where would you draw the line then? Go back to the old Invacar days? Well it’s free what more do you want?
Come on let’s be sensible here I’ll tell you where the free money is, Motability’s £1.6 billion profit it’s sitting on in the bank.
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