Analysis: How UK grid will cope with an EV revolution by 2030

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    Brydo
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    Executives from National Grid and home battery firm Moixa discuss the challenges

    It has been clear for a while now that electric vehicles are coming. If the sales charts and chatter on social media weren’t clues enough, the UK government’s announcement of a 2030 ban on the sale of new ICE cars is the future writ large in bold font. But as Brits start to buy more EVs, many people are worried about the infrastructure to charge them and whether it can cope.

    Will the UK’s transport network give us the flexibility we currently enjoy from our cars? In the latest of our Autocar Business Live webinars, sponsored by NewMotion, some of the fog was cleared by our guests: Graeme Cooper, National Grid’s project director for transport decarbonisation, and Ben Fletcher, EV project lead at Moixa, a clean-tech software company working specifically with home batteries.

    Some EVs, such as the Nissan Leaf, can serve as a storage medium. Will all cars act as storage devices in the future?

    Fletcher said: “This is known as vehicle-to-grid [charging]. The car can take power from the grid or provide it back into the house. There are huge advantages to this, but there are a number of challenges around it. There are some hardware costs – it isn’t just a normal charge point, so that’s a bit more expensive – and there’s also a different way that the driver thinks of the vehicle. They need to be incentivised to be plugging in their car at all times, rather than just when they want it to be taking a charge.”

    Cooper added: “There’s societal behaviour with this. I’m three years and 40,000 miles into EV ownership, and when I first had it, I plugged it in every night; now I only plug it about once a week. And if it’s not plugged in, it’s not visible and not controllable.

    “We need behavioural scientists to look at this: when you ask people when they use their car, it’s 5.30 to 7.30 on a cold, wet winter’s commute. When does the grid most likely need power out of the battery? At 5.30 to 7.30 on a cold, wet winter’s day. Is this [vehicle-to-grid] going to be big or small? I think the jury is out on that. But one thing I would say is that flexibility is going to be critical. If we’ve got more variable generators like wind or solar, what you need is consumption that turns up or down when that is happening.”

    Why won’t there be blackouts?

    Cooper answered: “Because we [National Grid] are a monopoly, we work to a standard that’s administered by Ofgem, the regulator, and we live up to a 99.99987% reliability; that’s seven seconds a year. When we look forward to what’s coming – more EVs, more electrification of heat – yes, the grid and the energy market will change. But this is a managed transition that doesn’t happen overnight. So we plan for it, we watch for it, we even advise: The people in the National Grid Electricity System Operator do a forward forecast every year called the Future Energy Scenarios that says what we think is coming and how we manage it. The uptake we’re seeing in electric cars now isn’t a surprise.

    Is there enough time before 2030 to get it all ready?

    Fletcher said: “As somebody who has been involved with the EV market for quite a long time now, what’s interesting is that the ‘hockey stick’ we see with the vehicles [slow growth of sales morphing into rapid uptake] is actually following a similar trend that we see in the number of charge points that are out there. The more people buy EVs, the greater the market there is for people to be charging those cars.

    Cooper added: “By 2030, we will have 40GW of off-shore [energy generation capacity] installed in the UK. That’s an additional 30GW on top of what we already have today. Now, that in itself means we need more smart consumption to match that, so the two things go lock-step together. There will be the right wires to do off-shore wind and the right wires to do EV charging. The energy market will grow because of electrifying more things.

    “The government has a policy called Project Rapid, which is high-power, on-route charging. They also have £950 million funding in place, and that’s to make sure that at every motorway service area in England, there’s adequate futureproofed capacity for everybody to go clean transport. You will start to see futureproofed grid capacity going into these services.”

    What speed does my home charger need to provide?

    Cooper said: “If you’re thinking about fuelling an EV like you would a petrol car, then all of this is lost on you. Cars are stationary for 96% of the time, so what you actually want to do is charge the car while it’s parked – so overnight or while you’re in an office. Charging a car fast is actually the wrong thing to do. I come home and once a week, I plug the car in and it charges at 7kW. By the morning, the car is full.”

    Fletcher agreed: “You should always be doing something else while your car is charging. So the opportunity gain you get between a 22kW charger and 7kW charger is pretty small, because most people sleep overnight and that’s the time it will take to charge. I’ve never found a [charging] point where 7kW wasn’t adequate for what I needed to do with the car.”

    If I already have a home charger, why do I need a company like Moixa?

    Fletcher replied: “Let’s say you have solar panels on the roof of your house to generate power. Unless you have a way to store that power, you’re only really able to use power directly from the grid. And that’s where your costs come from. If you have a way of storing that energy, you can take in the energy when it’s at the lowest cost to you. It’s about trying to make sure that there’s flexibility for the grid.

    Cooper added: “The best analogy I’ve heard is Easyjet surge pricing. Flights are £20 in term time, but if you want to fly on a Saturday in [the] summer holidays, it’s more like £200. The same surge demand goes for electricity: if you have a smart tariff, you could actually buy your £20 flight and use it when it’s a £200 flight.”

    How can I charge my EV if I don’t have a home driveway?

    Cooper said: “There are lots of opportunities coming up. The likes of Ubitricity are doing the lamp-post chargers, although that only really works if the council paints the road to say that only an electric car is allowed to park in this bay. Or if you do something fairly regularly, like a weekly shop at your local supermarket, you want the right speed of charger there while you do your shop. Having the right chargers in the right locations will mean that you will still be able to have an electric car even if you don’t have a driveway.

    “There are lots of clever people doing very clever things. People like Liberty Global – they’re the people who own Virgin Media – are looking at how to use the fibre broadband ducts in the street to be able to use that infrastructure to install chargers.”

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    Where will the government earn its money if taxes from fuel fall dramatically?

    Fletcher said: “My personal view is this is where something like road pricing will come in, rather than something where we’re faced with different levels of taxation on the electricity that comes into our houses. That provides a difficulty with metering, but it’s also something that’s tricky to enforce; it could become the red diesel of the next generation. With road pricing, you’re generating the taxes with the people who are placing the most burden on using that facility the most.”

    Cooper added: Taxation isn’t the National Grid’s challenge. But it’s [road pricing] still cheaper than petrol yet the government still gets it tax take. For me, road pricing probably makes most sense.”

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    Donkey Oatie

    Interesting…. I hope road pricing is done in a considered way, Many rural areas with little or no public transport would be badly hit if road pricing was per mile. With smart boxes and GPS scaled road charging for congested roads and off peak travel could be introduced. There are still some doubts about travel outwith normal commuting. Limits to range and pressure on charging points

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    Currently we have a disabled class for the road fund licence, the idea being that we can’t simply use public transport or walk everywhere because of our disabilities. Will that be carried over to road pricing?

    We also have exemptions from congestion charging & some toll roads (e.g. Dartford Crossing), & private roads we can obtain a discounted flat rate for those who will use the road often (M6 Toll). Congestion charge exemptions cover us again because we often can’t simply use public transport.

    The rural area problem already exists with the current system of road funding, & it would be interesting to see how much tax revenue rural driving currently brings in. It might not be worth charging per mile for rural roads & all the per mile taxation gets done on the trunk roads only, impacting on the already existing taxation penalty of living in rural areas positively.

     

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    Brydo

    I believe most of the exemptions will continue as no government wants to appear to be penalising the disabled.

    Without V2G the system is unlikely to work. We could of course install millions of batteries to soak up any excess electricity generated overnight or on particularly sunny days but V2G would appear to be the obvious solution and an essential part of the grid make up.

    If we only charge people for using motorways, dual carriageways etc then the surface streets, in many cities, will become choked with cars avoiding any charges.

    I think the best way to deal with rural driving is to charge everyone the same amount and then look at people’s post code and give a reduced rate to those genuinely  affected.

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    ChrisK
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    Don’t forget though we get no concession for duty paid at the pump for petrol and diesel so don’t expect any per mile charges for the disabled to get any exceptions but I guess the various tolls around the country for ferry, bridges and motorways to remain the same as a car is a car no matter how its wheels are driven.
    In the scheme of things I think the cost will not be much different to what we pay now for fossil cars except EV’s will be included but what would worry me is where and how are they going to set the per mile cost, would it be the average cost of fossil fuel cars duty, the value of the car or just pluck a sum out of thin air and convince us its fair.

    As for the Liberty Global and their clever people I can assure you there only interested is in profit for the least amount of layout but is a good omen for the future.

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