[Karl48]

I was wanting an Abarth, even though they are on the Motability search, Abarth Website and all dealership Websites. Petrol Abarths at not available to Motability Customers/Users.

It would be Motability that you would need to speak / complain too. To be honest you are not the first and probably wont be the last customer I am having this conversation with. And in terms of cancelations or a waiting list there is none. There are literally no petrol Abarth’s available in the UK and none in the factory being built and the ordering is on hold with no ETA of opening. Abarth where only added back onto the Motability scheme just over a month ago, and when they were added back onto the scheme the factory ordering was closed at the point too, so it’s not as if this has just happened.

Regards,

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[Karl48]

Depressed Yellla

[on the spectrum]

It seems that there is a consensus at Stellantis  who as you may know run Fiat, Abarth, vauxhall, peugeot to try to force many to only have an EV choice, when now many older folk and some younger as well do not want EV and still want  either hybrid non plug in or pure petrols still. And many who buy cars are choosing to steer clear of EVS due to many factors one that they may not want or cannot charge at home, and the cost of insurance which as many EV accidents are having to be written off due to safety of battery damage which cannot be checked for damage. It has finally sunk in that EV as they stand are not really if buying are not fit for purpose and many manufacturers  such as VW recently have said they are cutting production of there EV due to low take up. Just look at how many Petrol Abarths could have been still sold in uk and producing jobs still with new orders yet we are not allowed to have them due to Gov interference fines to Manufacturers of up to £15000 if not enough EV are sold it is like a quota system  and quite frankly we have no choice anymore.

[UncJ]

on the spectrum wrote:

It seems that there is a consensus at Stellantis who as you may know run Fiat, Abarth, vauxhall, peugeot to try to force many to only have an EV choice, when now many older folk and some younger as well do not want EV and still want either hybrid non plug in or pure petrols still. And many who buy cars are choosing to steer clear of EVS due to many factors one that they may not want or cannot charge at home, and the cost of insurance which as many EV accidents are having to be written off due to safety of battery damage which cannot be checked for damage. It has finally sunk in that EV as they stand are not really if buying are not fit for purpose and many manufacturers such as VW recently have said they are cutting production of there EV due to low take up. Just look at how many Petrol Abarths could have been still sold in uk and producing jobs still with new orders yet we are not allowed to have them due to Gov interference fines to Manufacturers of up to £15000 if not enough EV are sold it is like a quota system and quite frankly we have no choice anymore.

Agree with all that. It’s one thing leasing an EV but who in their right mind would even consider buying one with their own cash? I don’t know a single person and for all the obvious reasons with insane depreciation being at No1. The dream is over, even for leasing. The leasing and PCP model isn’t built to take factor of colossal depreciation and it cannot continue in it’s current form otherwise these companies will all go under.

Stellantis of course are yet another manufacturer who have changed to there useless agency sales model so I predict things to get even worse for customers ordering from them. They’ve just announced that they are fitting a 1 L petrol engine to the 500 EV platform for 2025 as already they just can’t move the purpose built 500E in its present form.

Shame about Abarth, I know the petrol cars are long in the tooth now but by far the best fun I’ve ever had in a car when I had one in Motability some 9 years ago before needing a bigger vehicle, still brings a smile now! 😁👍

[on the spectrum]

UncJ wrote:

Tiny tim wrote:

It seems that there is a consensus at Stellantis who as you may know run Fiat, Abarth, vauxhall, peugeot to try to force many to only have an EV choice, when now many older folk and some younger as well do not want EV and still want either hybrid non plug in or pure petrols still. And many who buy cars are choosing to steer clear of EVS due to many factors one that they may not want or cannot charge at home, and the cost of insurance which as many EV accidents are having to be written off due to safety of battery damage which cannot be checked for damage. It has finally sunk in that EV as they stand are not really if buying are not fit for purpose and many manufacturers such as VW recently have said they are cutting production of there EV due to low take up. Just look at how many Petrol Abarths could have been still sold in uk and producing jobs still with new orders yet we are not allowed to have them due to Gov interference fines to Manufacturers of up to £15000 if not enough EV are sold it is like a quota system and quite frankly we have no choice anymore.

Agree with all that. It’s one thing leasing an EV but who in their right mind would even consider buying one with their own cash? I don’t know a single person and for all the obvious reasons with insane depreciation being at No1. The dream is over, even for leasing. The leasing and PCP model isn’t built to take factor of colossal depreciation and it cannot continue in it’s current form otherwise these companies will all go under. Stellantis of course are yet another manufacturer who have changed to there useless agency sales model so I predict things to get even worse for customers ordering from them. They’ve just announced that they are fitting a 1 L petrol engine to the 500 EV platform for 2025 as already they just can’t move the purpose built 500E in its present form. Shame about Abarth, I know the petrol cars are long in the tooth now but by far the best fun I’ve ever had in a car when I had one in Motability some 9 years ago before needing a bigger vehicle, still brings a smile now! 😁👍

Ride on you are totally right I had the 145 bhp Abarth MTA and it was the best fun car and sound I have ever had and now you could have the 180bhp Comp on the scheme you cannot order one totally hopeless.

[on the spectrum]

From the end of 2024, automakers will need to have at least 22 per cent of their total sales come from EVs, or they could face a £15,000 fine per vehicle over the target.

 

[Karl48]

Excellent repy,  really appreciate you taking the time to type that comprehensive reply. I couldn’t get a reply from Abarth or Stellantis.

I would like to criticise Motability because they have helped me stay in employment and drive a reliable car.

I contacted Motability and they advised Abarth/Stellantis had advised recently that these petrol models are available. I suffer from depression, dysthimia and anxiety disorder and have mobility issues. It may sound daft, but I really wanted the Competizione and when I couldnae order it had a serious impact on my mood. I’m no spring chicken and don’t want an electric car. I just wouldn’t want any other Motability customers to see these advertised everywhere, want one and be left feeling the way I have.

I appreciate the reply. You are a good soul Sir!

Thank you kindly

Depressed Yella

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