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With respect Mike 700 all I asked for was to provide the source of the comments you were good enough to provide us with so that the veracity of those comments could be tested. I didn’t ask for chapter and verse about the Darien or any other episode in Scotlands National history. I therefor have to conclude that the “tickety boo” comments were as I suspected not from a respected source and therefor should be viewed as such unless of course you are willing to divulge the source.
I would not say boo to a goose , let alone use ‘tickedy boo ‘ – you are mixing me up with someone else!
It was not Mike who used “tickety boo” but, me as a closing paragraph to a previous comment 🙂
I also suggested you start another thread on the subject, as whatever Scotland is on the world map, it has little to do with the current state of the SNP. I’m sure wigwam, Mike and myself would happily join in!
Humza Yousaf warned plot to ditch monarchy to salvage SNP’s independence dream is doomed – I say DOOMED
Story by Katie Harris • 6h agoHumza Yousaf will not win over more voters to Scottish independence by pushing to ditch the monarchy, a pollster has warned. The new First Minister declared during the bitter SNP leadership contest that Scotland could oust the Royal Family within five years of independence.
But polling expert Professor Sir John Curtice said that while plans to get rid of the monarchy may be popular with SNP members, they will not win over No voters to the independence cause.
He said support for the royals is lower in Scotland than the UK as a whole, but added the institution is still more popular than having a republic.
Prof Curtice highlighted how Mr Yousaf’s predecessors Nicola Sturgeon and Alex Salmond took the view that the question of the monarchy was “not a battle that’s worth fighting”.
He said: “The monarchy is still more popular than having a republic in Scotland”, However, among those people who would vote Yes, a majority would prefer a republic.
“But the strategy of the SNP hitherto has been that this is not a battle we necessarily want to fight”
Yousaf of course has declared his personal preference, although he is off to the Coronation now!!!
Mike 700
Apologies Mike I mistook the post from Kezo as yours, unlike some on these threads I always admit if I make a mistake. I look forward to our future discussions.
Wigwam
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are recognised Countries and the United Kingdom is the Independent Sovereign State. Trying to wind Brydo up by questioning Scotlands right to be called a Country is a new low even for conspiracy theorist like you.
Kezo
You must have waded through quite a few legitimate sites before you found that load of “tickety boo”.
I dont expect you to provide a link for what you posted but I do hope that if nothing else you now know the difference between Sovereign state and Country.
Menorca Mike
Quite enjoy a debate, was thinking of starting one on Tory sleaze, trouble is there is so much of it I dont know where to start! Look forward to hearing your views.
Humza Yousaf has denied the SNP faces bankruptcy as he confirmed forensic auditors could be appointed following a meeting of the party’s ruling body….
Mike 700 Apologies Mike I mistook the post from Kezo as yours, unlike some on these threads I always admit if I make a mistake. I look forward to our future
! Look forward to hearing your views.
Daf( fodil? )
I am a Welshman through and through, who happens to live in England, due to the need some years back, for substantial mIssionary work to be carried out amongst the indigenous population settling on either side of the M4 between Jct 13 and the Jct for Windsor , as well as that mess at Eton, and Not forgetting the big girls finishing school in Camberley, which I did attend ( briefly ) before transferring to a more sensible finishing school , just up the road – named after a First World War battleground .
I am not your archetypical antiTory Welshman ,rather I am anti the useless Labour Party having spent my formative years in the people’s ‘failed’ republic of South Wales” where any donkey (, Edit ass) with a Red Rose pinned to it’s backside would get elected to Parliament, or the local authority?
I’m sure that any ‘ discussion’ we have would be ‘colourful’ to say the least , but i shall no longer Join any thread about Religion or Politics!
Regards,
I am a Welshman through and through, who happens to live in England, due to the need some years back, for substantial mIssionary work
I’m a near identical opposite to you. I am an Englishman through and through, who happens to live in Wales, due to the need Wales needing my skillset in the emergency services, namely the Police and ambulance 🙂
You will be aware that Wales was officially recognised as a country inside of Great Britain, by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO), with the code GB-WLS or GB-CYM. This now makes Wales a contituent unit/country of GB and no longer seen as a Principality, though it it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
An reason behind why you no longer want to Join any thread about Religion or Politics.
Not really, kezo. The three letter suffix is also applied to towns and cities. It doesn’t make them countries. ISO is identifying areas not political entities.
Apologies for straying off my own topic!
I am a Welshman through and through, who happens to live in England, due to the need some years back, for substantial mIssionary work
I’m a near identical opposite to you.
A reason behind why you no longer want to Join any thread about Religion or Politics.
I have to admit, that one of my favourite hobbies is politics, and to a lesser extent Religion so this type of thread attracts me, and I see debate & argument as ‘enlightening’ rather than warmongering, and find it healthy that there are varying points of view, rather than all conforming to one ?
As I see it left or right , head or tail, we are all but ‘one coin’, and sometimes we land with our face in the mud, and other times we don’t’, depending on the skill of the toss/argument, and I am a great believer in respecting other’s views, not that it stops me from being critical, or even sarcastic, sometimes rude, but I do believe that we must draw the line at personal abuse of fellow debaters.
How we feel about, and describe, political parties & politicians, & religion really boils down to our personal ‘opinion’ , or choice, based often on our background, upbringing, environment, education, etc., even from taking notice of biased media reports, rarely on actual policy or fact.
But choice, and the freedom to chose is of paramount importance in all aspects of our lives, and so it is with this Forum, and especially the off Topic area which is not open to the public and therefore is somewhere where we should all be able to express our choice on a politics , or Religion, – even just let off steam, safe in the knowledge that the area is private, and in any event, nothing we say will actually make one iota of difference to the outcome of anything?
But, eventually personal abuse will raise it’s ugly head, and life is too short, so better to avoid the subjects?
There are strange people who are so certain of their particular beliefs that anyone who doesn’t share them is obviously a far right conspiracy theorist. Or if that doesn’t wash, they are clearly a Nazi. It’s not so strange that the people who are so accused don’t make similarly insulting claims against those people, because it’s self-evident what they are.
Is Brydo allowed to comment on this thread ? Seems strange he hasn’t been on with all this coming out he must be shocked
There are strange people who are so certain of their particular beliefs that anyone who doesn’t share them is obviously a far right conspiracy theorist. Or if that doesn’t wash, they are clearly a Nazi. It’s not so strange that the people who are so accused don’t make similarly insulting claims against those people, because it’s self-evident what they are.
WW It is unusual ,to say the least, for right wingers to criticise /attack left wingers , on a forum such as this, but as Sir Tom has been known to say, ‘it’s not unusual’ for personal attacks and ridicule to come the other way! The same applies to people discussing religion which usually ends with insulting believers!
It is clear that belief in the existence of a God, is anathema to many, because of the lack of ‘ scientific proof’, and believers must accept this, but there is also no scientific proof that a God does not exist, there were no scientists ‘at the beginning ‘, if indeed there was a beginning, so non- believers must accept this also!
There is only limited scientific proof together with a huge amount of scientific theory that disprove some entries in ‘the Bible’, but so what?
It is just a storybook ,”written by man” , and therefore open to man’s interpretation – it is not some sort of instruction manual for life!
Zealots + murderers, from time to time, purport to carry out their heinous acts in the name of their God, but frankly, they are doing it for their own selfish ends , not because they have received instructions from God, and both believers and non believers condemn them equally.
I have a completely open mind- and I am thankful for scientific thinking , without which we would not have the means to have this discussion as there would be no computers or Internet, and most of us wouldn’t be here anyway, as we would have never have survived without scientific thinking and the discovery of new medicines etc, and I speak from personal experience.
But I also thank God for the millions of good people who provide comfort , in the form of religion, to the lost, the needy, the sick & dying – most of whom request it, desperately need it, and very often come to believe in it at the end!
Scientific thinking and a belief in a higher power are not mutually exclusive, so let us continue to tolerate other’s points of view , without sinking to abuse, safe in the knowledge that ‘ none of us knows the answer to everything’!
I think a philosophy thread is needed to continue this one on Mike 700. If there is no supreme being, ancient people would have invented one to make sense of the pre-scientific world. So my question is is there or did they?
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