Thanks wmc and Solent.
Sigh so nothing low and 7 seat potentially coming.
Might have to look to the used market then.
Have no faith of ever receiving the vivaro elite elite I have ordered with turny seat Im 90% confident that everyone’s orders are going to be scrapped like they did with the PSA group van diesels after people had waited a year plus.
Unfortunately the turny seat can’t be fit in anything else in the second row and even the caddy/tourneo and the Dacia jogger are too tall for daughter let alone the 7 seat SUV’s