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Windows 10 will not be supported from October so what are the choices?
I have a really old all in one computer that I hardly use but if I’m searching for something I prefer to sit at a computer rather than do it on my phone.
Ive looked on line and there are a few work arounds available so it’s likely I will go with one of those rather than fork out on a brand new computer with windows 11 already loaded.
Anyone else have the same problem and if so what did you do?
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Never used all in one computers, i build from scratch – just wondering, what prevents you from just installing Win11?
edit: as a sidenote, if you’re not “into” computers, i’d get a new cheap office PC, as opposed to “working around” Win10.
Whether someone likes Win11 or not doesn’t matter, it’s more the fact that an unsupported OS usually is wide open to attacks (due to nothing getting fixed anymore). I’m assuming that if your PC is old, it probably isn’t capable enough hardware wise to run Win11?
Linux would be an option, and many people love it – but i don’t think that Linux is the correct choice for the.. “not well versed” user.
edit2: in fact, if you’re rarely on the PC, i’d be looking into getting a basic used Win11 laptop, or even Chromebook.
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When will Windows 10 support end?
The Windows 10 support end date is 14 October 2025. But what does that mean? According to Jason Leznek from the Windows servicing and delivery team, Microsoft won’t be providing bug or security fixes, time zone updates, or technical support after that date. But right up until October 2025, the latest version of Windows 10 (22H2) will still be supported with monthly security updates.So, it’s good news if your computer’s using the most recent version of Windows 10 — as you’ll still be covered for a while. But if your machine’s running an older version, make sure to upgrade it to 22H2. That way, you can get all those important Windows 10 security updates on your PC through 2024 and most of 2025.
Like @Rene says,in fact, if you’re rarely on the PC, i’d be looking into getting a basic used Win11 laptop, or even Chromebook.
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Coming soon...BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In November 2025I’d stick with Win 10 and make sure its fully upto date with the latest 22H2, at least for now, as Win 11 is drought with issues having/had stability issues and as August win 11 update, rendered SSDs and HDDs invisible to users, while also risking permanent data loss, though of course Microsoft denies this, so you’d only be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Ignore anyone that says there’s a work around to get Win 11 on unsupported devices, as Microsoft won’t update and allow security fixes on unsupported devices.
Further more Win 11, also has higher system requirements (bios etc), without these requirements, essential security features such as Trusted Platform Module 2.0 and Secure Boot, will expose the system to security risks.
You’d be brave to go Linux, unless @Rene has time to teach you, I don’t, but a good basic starting point is to get a Enigma 2 reciever.
I have left windows 11 after being a windows user since XP and although liked it have gone back to Apple IMAC which has new OS not got it out on box as yet. The last time I was with apple was in 2001 on there old bulky coloured PC, I will have to relearn again.
I updated to Win11 pretty much as soon as it was available, we’d changed to Win11 at work and I wanted the same interface at home. It’s been painless for me, no issues, no problems. My wife left her PC on Win10 – as she was worried about stability. It was upgraded about a month ago, no issues, no problems other than her having to learn the slightly different layout.
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I’d stick with Win 10 and make sure its fully upto date with the latest 22H2, at least for now, as Win 11 is drought with issues having/had stability issues and as August win 11 update, rendered SSDs and HDDs invisible to users, while also risking permanent data loss, though of course Microsoft denies this, so you’d only be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
This is nonsense. Yes you can have issues, but by no means is that widespread. We have currently 6 PCs running Win11, not a single one has an issue – nor had one, ever, since i installed it.
Not to defend Microsoft here, they’re whatever – but the fact of the matter is that a few hundred cases on Reddit don’t point to a systemic issue when over 50% of all Win PCs worldwide run that OS. For the absolute vast majority, the OS is fine. Particularly for people who don’t go into depth with their software.
Ignore anyone that says there’s a work around to get Win 11 on unsupported devices, as Microsoft won’t update and allow security fixes on unsupported devices.
The alternative of course would be to continue running Win10 which Microsoft won’t update, nor develop security fixes for from now on.
Further more Win 11, also has higher system requirements (bios etc), without these requirements, essential security features such as Trusted Platform Module 2.0 and Secure Boot, will expose the system to security risks. You’d be brave to go Linux, unless @Rene has time to teach you, I don’t, but a good basic starting point is to get a Enigma 2 reciever.
That’s basically the gist of it – his PC will almost guaranteed not be able to run Win11. Heck, even high end PCs like mine took some tinkering to get it running (some oddities with X870E/ASrock boards and TPM/SB, or rather the setup of each in the bios).
I did mention that Linux isn’t for the average user.. Admittedly i’m not even up to date on the distros currently, haven’t looked into it for a while – so even if i wanted to, i could only give a basic instruction at best.
I certainly would be able to help looking for a basic Win11 laptop.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.I ran the diagnostic tool and my existing computer is not able to update to 11. I’ve considered buying a new basic computer and might still go down that route but I’m likely to give the work around a go and see what I get as far as updates etc to 11 once it’s loaded.
Theres something about sitting in-front of a computer that I like.
I get my first pension pay out this month so maybe I’ll treat myself to a new computer.
Now if I go for a new one what is the minimum spec I should be looking for?
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Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.This is nonsense. Yes you can have issues, but by no means is that widespread.
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I ran the diagnostic tool and my existing computer is not able to update to 11. I’ve considered buying a new basic computer and might still go down that route but I’m likely to give the work around a go and see what I get as far as updates etc to 11 once it’s loaded. Theres something about sitting in-front of a computer that I like. I get my first pension pay out this month so maybe I’ll treat myself to a new computer. Now if I go for a new one what is the minimum spec I should be looking for?
Depends what you want to do, to what minimum spec you need, though I keep away from eMMC storage and stick with hardrive or SSD!
@kezo as I said I only use it now and again if I’m searching for something so basic, basic. However if there is anything you guys think should be on it to future proof it then I’m open to that, no point in going down the same route a couple of years from now.
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Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Then there’s this option.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.According to the Windows 11 requirement check it’s my processor that’s not suitable.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.Never used all in one computers, i build from scratch – just wondering, what prevents you from just installing Win11? edit: as a sidenote, if you’re not “into” computers, i’d get a new cheap office PC, as opposed to “working around” Win10. Whether someone likes Win11 or not doesn’t matter, it’s more the fact that an unsupported OS usually is wide open to attacks (due to nothing getting fixed anymore). I’m assuming that if your PC is old, it probably isn’t capable enough hardware wise to run Win11? Linux would be an option, and many people love it – but i don’t think that Linux is the correct choice for the.. “not well versed” user. edit2: in fact, if you’re rarely on the PC, i’d be looking into getting a basic used Win11 laptop, or even Chromebook.
To begin with- the hardware which may not support Windows 11. I have a very old laptop left to me from one my previous roles with hardware requirements below the minimum set by Microsoft. Yes I can force the upgrade, but who knows how it will work with old Dell Latitude.
What is the main concern of people from October, I am trying to understand? Is it lack of support? Security patches? New features?
Personally I have no intention tto purchase a new laptop just to have Windows 11. I have a full antivirus, for which I pay for years and which never failed me.
Plus one can have Windows family pack up to 6 people for a ridiculous amount of £76 pa and enjoy Office 365 as well as OneDrive so all the important documents are in the cloud and accessible from any device.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)I was in the same quandary, upgrade the hardware for Win11.
Instead, i bought a new PC, it cost the same as an upgrade path and it comes with Win 11 Pro installed.
Its. Minisforum Venus 790 Pro an cost £535 from amazon. My existing full size NZXT case pc is sitting redundant..
My old PC had an 800W ower supply, the mini pc has a 60w supply and the pc fits in my hand.
I done a lot of research and minisforum seems to be the better build. But Ryzen 9, 32gb ddr5 Ram and. 1Tb m2. Drive.
The minipc plays my games, and for video editing, it so much quicker than my old Pc.
I had consiered the Mac MiniM4, for the same price, but its specs and performance is half of the ryzen 9. Plus software is very limited.
The mini pc…..ts a steal.
The good news is, buying a new PC is great, but it is soon outdated. I try and buy the best I can afford.
I recently bought a new PC:
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor (3.70 GHz)
Graphics Card AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT
C: Drive 2 Tb SSD
D: Drive 4 Tb SSD
Installed RAM 32.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processorThe above doesn’t mean much to me, but it works for me. I would be tempted to go Apple for my next PC, but hopefully that will not be for a good few years yet.
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I have couple of lenovo AIO, original win 7, changed out the hard drive for ssd, put win 11 on, works fine. Use one as an office machine, word ect, one in the gym, as a peloton you tube, trainer thing. I also have two mini pc’s running my media servers, from aliexpress, less than £100, included windows, but i upgraded the wi fi module. All work brilliant.
@kezo as I said I only use it now and again if I’m searching for something so basic, basic. However if there is anything you guys think should be on it to future proof it then I’m open to that, no point in going down the same route a couple of years from now.
If you want a desktop computer why not build your own, it’s straight forward enough and you’d getter a better machine than buying one at a similar price – I build they for Geovison CCTV systems mainly, but do build gaming machines in facy cases for people around Xmas. @joss builds them and looks like @Rene does to, so there’s no end of support, plus you can put Windows 11 pro on without paying silly money.
Alternatively why not get an AMD or Intel laptop. Intel Core i3, will give you a machine, that does the basics and beyond.
As an idea:
Outside of windows 11 discussions it is amazing to read what people are using their computers for. 😀
I couldn’t think of any use bar Azure related things (Asure storage, durable functions, sql, wisperAI etc.) plus Office 365 and Vivaldi browser to occasionally read GB News.
Amazing to see how much free time people have! And I am saying it in a most positive way – maybe one day, once I will reach the retirement age (although with the current government it seems to be so so so far away).
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The good news is, buying a new PC is great, but it is soon outdated. I try and buy the best I can afford. I recently bought a new PC: Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor (3.70 GHz) Graphics Card AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT C: Drive 2 Tb SSD D: Drive 4 Tb SSD Installed RAM 32.0 GB System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor The above doesn’t mean much to me, but it works for me. I would be tempted to go Apple for my next PC, but hopefully that will not be for a good few years yet.
Performance to price point the 5600X is a decent mid range processor with burst speeds of 4,6GHz.
6 Tb total SSD is above average (you must have billions of pics😂)
Overall very decent and future possibility to update the CPU to any AM4 socket processors incliding Ryzen 5 prcessors and above.
Radeon RX 6650 XT C graphics card is towards the higher end and based on PCI, much better than built in graphics cards.
32GB Ram is also above average.
I’m not surprised.
Is that an actual PC? Because that CPU is supposed to be in a laptop/mobile device. The only times i’ve seen laptop chips in desktop PCs is when the rig comes from Aliexpress or other chinese outlets.
Also makes an upgrade impossible, since it’s soldered to the board (and FT4 isn’t great in the first place).
If you’re handy, you could get away with a motherboard/CPU upgrade, depending on RAM compatibility – for a budget board/CPU/cooler you’d be looking at around £150-200 used. But of course would require you to assemble it.
This is nonsense. Yes you can have issues, but by no means is that widespread.
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Brydo will in fact never run into that problem. That’s what i mean.
In fact, even if he installed Cyberpunk 2077, he’s unlikely to run into that problem – since i installed it just now, and everything is fine. I even tested it on one my secondary (SSD) drives, because my primaries are M2. Which are also fine.
It’s hysteria for no bloody reason, Win11 is fine.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Is that an actual PC? Because that CPU is supposed to be in a laptop/mobile device. The only times i’ve seen laptop chips in desktop PCs is when the rig comes from Aliexpress or other chinese outlets.
Central Processing Unit is the primary component, responsible for executing instructions – the brain, commonly refered to as the central processor, main processor, or just processor, used interchangeably
The Processor however, is a broader term for the CPU, GPU and the memory controller
The Pentium G630 can be found in both desktops and laptopsm though physical socket sizes differ and has a built in GPU unless disabled, the Ryzon 5600x, can also be found in both desktops and laptops. The 5600x however doesn’t have a built in GPU and requires a dedicated graphics card.
Is that an actual PC? Because that CPU is supposed to be in a laptop/mobile device. The only times i’ve seen laptop chips in desktop PCs is when the rig comes from Aliexpress or other chinese outlets.
Central Processing Unit is the primary component, responsible for executing instructions – the brain, commonly refered to as the central processor, main processor, or just processor, used interchangeably The Processor however, is a broader term for the CPU, GPU and the memory controller The Pentium G630 can be found in both desktops and laptopsm though physical socket sizes differ and has a built in GPU unless disabled, the Ryzon 5600x, can also be found in both desktops and laptops. The 5600x however doesn’t have a built in GPU and requires a dedicated graphics card.
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I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue here. I’ve worked 20 years for various System integrators as well as the occasional stint as SysAd, i’m well aware as to what “processor” refers to.
That particular “CPU” is a mobile chip. It’s designed as a mobile APU. It’s an low end Stoney Ridge APU. Stoney Ridge being a notebook skew of APUs, there’s no desktop variant of it. The desktop variant of AMD low end APUs is called A10 and uses the AM4 socket, not the mobile FT4 BGA socket. BGA sockets are soldered.
As for the recommendation, i don’t know why you recommend an AM4 over a budget AM5 CPU, considering that there’s zero “future proofing” on an AM4 board. Down to not supporting USB4. A decent budget AM5 board plus 7600 makes much more sense. Heck, even a 5600g or 5600gt would make more sense. And i’m saying that coming from a 3800x (to 9800x3d) – “X” skews increase clocks ever so slightly, while increasing power consumption, temps etc. Makes no sense to me in a non-gaming build.
That all said: i think LordMuc has the best suggestion. Something like this.
Perfectly suited to do some browsing and light loads – surprisingly well priced too, actually.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.I,m old and i dont like change.
But i bit the bullet and got a Dell PC with Windows 11 several months ago.
My previous PC another Dell had been upgraded to Windows 10….but it began failing as a PC so i jumped.
Its like owt else even tho i dont like change..you get used to it the more you use it.
I,m old and i dont like change. But i bit the bullet and got a Dell PC with Windows 11 several months ago. My previous PC another Dell had been upgraded to Windows 10….but it began failing as a PC so i jumped. Its like owt else even tho i dont like change..you get used to it the more you use it.
Indeed. Going to Win11, just hate the desktop, went to github an got a file for making it more win10 like. Also hated Win11 notepad, so deleted that an installed win10 one.
It tests your sanity trying to keep a path away from the one that Microsoft tries to force on you.
All the previous versions of Windows was a welcome upgrade, But Win11 has some very good features and some very bad features.
But yes, as you get older, this crap you could do without.
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