Clunky electric cars

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  • #298414
    wonky
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      Hi all,  why are electric cars clunky over bumps and potholes?

      Tested, Enyaq and Ioniq5 , they are both clunky and uncomfortable for someone with a bad back. They have big wheels, why?

      Testing id4 on Friday and if this is same , may rethink electric.

      Regards, wonky

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    • #298415
      Rhodgie
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        Nothing to do with being electric, more to do with big wheels and low profile tyres.

        I’d suggest testing a few non electric cars to see if there’s any improvement.

        #298416
        Avatar photojunglegreen
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          BEV’s are much heavier than equivalent ICE cars and generally have stiffer suspension to compensate.

          Sean
          Current car Hyundai Kona Ultimate EV

          #298419
          Fastbike1000
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            I’ve got a Nissan ariya and it’s pretty good over bumps and potholes, quite relaxing in fact but I have 19” wheels with quite high side walls.

            #298421
            kezo
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              Wheels look nicer when they fill the arch with big wheels & low profile tyres or so they say, plus you also loose a significant amount of range. The ioniq 6 for example gets 20″ wheels in the UK with a 33o mile range however markets that get 18″ wheels get 380 mile range.

              Try looking for an EV with 18″ or at most 19″ wheels.

               

              #298422
              Glos Guy
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                As had been said, BEVs and PHEVs are very heavy which, coupled with larger wheels can give a firmer ride. There is a growing concern that the extra weight of these cars is contributing to the poor state of our roads as, being so heavy, they tend to cause more damage when bumping over broken surfaces.

                #298432
                Rhodgie
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                  My cousin drives a Range Rover Autobiography, that’s quite a heavy car and you wouldn’t describe the ride as clunky so it’s nothing to do with the weight, it’s the wheels, tyres and how the suspension is set up.

                  And as for the extra weight of a BEV or a PHEV causing extra damage to the roads (or causing car parks to collapse?) well that’s just Daily Wail reporting… was never an issue for years when 4×4’s were on the school run or commuting into the city 🤷‍♂️ crap investment in infrastructure, allowing utility companies to dig up roads whenever they liked and not fixing the little things early enough are more of an issue regarding the poor state of our roads.

                  #298437
                  Injector
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                    It’s a fact that heavier vehicles chew up the road. They also go through tyres faster.

                    #298449
                    Avatar photojunglegreen
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                      @Rhodgie The RR has a much more sophisticated suspension set up than your average BEV (double-wishbone with air springs) It’s designed as a luxury (and very expensive) vehicle to provide a smooth ride. Range Rover weighs in at about 2.3 tonnes with biggest BEV than I can think of being the Kia EV9 weighing in at 2.6 tonnes on standard multilink suspension.

                      Having said that, I’d agree with other posters that wheel and tyre size also has a significant impact on ride comfort.

                      Sean
                      Current car Hyundai Kona Ultimate EV

                      #298450
                      kezo
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                        My cousin drives a Range Rover Autobiography, that’s quite a heavy car and you wouldn’t describe the ride as clunky so it’s nothing to do with the weight, it’s the wheels, tyres and how the suspension is set up.

                        RR have airbags as part of the suspension, which makes for a cushy ride.

                        #298496
                        Al3xT
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                          Some cars are better than others regardless of the fuel. I just test drove a BYD Seal and it was surprisingly good. Much better than a Model 3 and not far off of my Jaguar I-Pace actually.

                          I would suggest to test drive some EVs and make sure you opt for the smallest possible wheels (18-19?). Some cars now have frequency adaptive dampers (Eg top spec BYD, new Model 3 and Model Y) which makes the ride lot smoother.

                          #298499
                          des
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                            Get yourself a scenic e-tech and float over said lumps and bumps.

                            Kezo I recently learned about airbag suspensions as a bus I was on had one blow out. Some bang when they blow out lol

                            #298509
                            Avatar photoELTel
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                              I have a bad back and neck pain and I’m loving the Volvo ex30. The suspension is great and not much transfers to the front seats. Plus the big 245/40R20 wheels just ride over most pot holes, unlike my previous car with much smaller wheels which I had to try and avoid and near me sometimes that’s impossible.

                              Really surprising me how good the ex30 is.. Even the wife has commented on how better the ride is..  I cannot suggest it though as it went up 2k in ap in Jan to £3999. So rather happy I ordered it in late Oct.

                              I had a Hyundai kona for just over a month, when mine was in the Bodyshop and that was the worst car baring the old c3 I have driven. So uncomfortable, you felt every bump and it wasn’t even an EV.

                              EX30 SMER Ultra

                              #298517
                              72 dudes
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                                Get yourself a scenic e-tech and float over said lumps and bumps.

                                Wow @Des, this just goes to show how one person’s perception can differ greatly from another’s!

                                When I test drove a Scenic E Tech late last year, one of the things I wasn’t so keen on was the firm pattery ride. The model I drove had 20″ wheels which wouldn’t have helped, but getting back into my i4 afterwards was a blessing 😆

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                                #298534
                                Avatar photoELTel
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                                  Wow @Des, this just goes to show how one person’s perception can differ greatly from another’s! When I test drove a Scenic E Tech late last year, one of the things I wasn’t so keen on was the firm pattery ride. The model I drove had 20″ wheels which wouldn’t have helped, but getting back into my i4 afterwards was a blessing

                                  I test drove the scenic also and took the exact same route as I did the ex30 all the way back home for just over an hour and It was ok, but certainly the ex30 in some places just acted much better. In a few places the scenic reminded me of driving an mpv the ex30 didn’t have those issue at those spots, that I just didn’t like.

                                  I could live with the scenic but I’m over those days now of settling for a car because its practical over others.

                                   

                                  EX30 SMER Ultra

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