Considering ordering an EV – Home Charger Query

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  • #251704
    Kevbo
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      Because my electricity meter is not located near the front of my house/driveway, I’m unsure of paying the ‘advanced payment’ before I know if it’s possible to install a home charger.

      Is there any way to get a mobility installer to carry out a survey prior to me ordering an EV, so I could have an idea of any additional costs involved?

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    • #251708
      Phaedra
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        How far is it? From what I’ve read here I believe up to 15m is included with a “standard” install.

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        #251709
        LordMuc
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          Not as far as i know, the firm motobility have, are so inflexible, can’t contact them directly. I made one error on the on line questions, as my upload didn’t show the final position of the charger, however it was pretty obvious, where it was to go, and they halted the progress. I cant get anyone, to continue the order, the only way is to email, i have and no replies, or book a call, for sometime in the future.

          #251711
          LordMuc
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            You have to fill in an online form, and upload drawings and video, of the fuse board and various other items, bonding ect.

            #251712
            Avatar photoVinnie
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              I rang Motability about this and they sent me a link to have a pre survey done with Ohme. Our meter is at the front, terrace house, but the park is at the back, they did an online survey and said it’s okay but not a standard fit, will have around £150 to pay extra for charger. Wanted to know before I ordered an ev.

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              #251714
              Olpk
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                How far is the meter to the charge point.

                My meter is at the rear of my house and charge point at the front and didn’t have any issues. 5m apart.

                #251715
                Avatar photoVinnie
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                  Big Edwardian town house, 14 metres from front (meter) to back wall, and charger is another 5 foot on side wall, so a bit extra.

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                  #251713
                  ik_a9@
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                    I am currently looking in to this. This is as far as I have got.

                    Cable is 6mm² minimum, may need 10mm² if the cable run is long (saves a bit of wasted power).

                    The control unit for the charge point must have double pole isolation and a double pole Type A RCD. Also needs over-current protection of at least 32A.

                    if you have any adaptations in your house currently like a through floor lift or ceiling g track hoists then you will most likely have the RCD as the local authority won’t install any adaptations without a minimum 32A over current

                    Good luck with your research I hope my information helps you

                    #251717
                    Ele
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                      Because my electricity meter is not located near the front of my house/driveway, I’m unsure of paying the ‘advanced payment’ before I know if it’s possible to install a home charger. Is there any way to get a mobility installer to carry out a survey prior to me ordering an EV, so I could have an idea of any additional costs involved?

                      Sensible question being asked before commitment

                      Not everyone is as sensible as you and steam ahead order and collect the car only to discover that they may have to cough up £ssss in additional installation fees

                      Simply go through the process of explaining as you have above by contacting motorbility and they will get Ohme to contact you.

                      Few Qs pics later and they will tell you if its a standard install any doubts and a home visit will be booked and you will be updated following that visit

                      #251719
                      kezo
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                        Installing a charger is typically straight forward process. Then there’s the Motability way!!


                        @Kevbo

                        Is your meter point inside your property or in a meterbox outside?

                        What is the approximate distance from your meter to where you want your charger?

                        A diagram showing where your meter is and where you want the charger. A picture of your meter cupboard would also be useful.

                        Alternatively speak with Motability and request a pre site survey prior to ordering.

                         

                         

                         

                        #251720
                        Kevbo
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                          Thanks for all the quick responses.

                          i was aware of Motabiltity’s guidance on installation of an EV charger , and the distances mentioned therein, but without going under the floor, there is no obvious ‘cable route’ to my driveway, hence the question “does Motabiliy offer a pre-installation survey service prior to placing an order for an EV?”

                          I have Motor Neurone Disease, so accessing location of my electricity meter to take photographs is impossible for me and it’s difficult to explain to my wife/full time carer.

                          #251721
                          Kevbo
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                            Cheers to all. I will get in touch with Motability to enquire about getting someone to visit.

                            I’ve  only recently joined this forum and that was my first post.

                            Overwhelmed with all the quick and helpful responses.

                            Thanks again,

                            Kevin

                            #251724
                            John Newton
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                              Hi guys I have a question too.my metre is in the wall next to my front door I want the charger on the same wall,is this  classed as an easy install?

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                              #251726
                              Avatar photoAbercol
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                                Hi John, that should be about as easy as they could expect, a couple of metres of cable and all done.

                                In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.

                                #251727
                                kezo
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                                  Cable is 6mm² minimum, may need 10mm² if the cable run is long (saves a bit of wasted power).

                                  That’s a new one on me! I imagine you are refering to whats known as voltage drop, however there is no wasted power either way?

                                  It is important to take into account the specification of the charger and whether it has an RDC-DD when choosing the type of RCD. Whilst type A RCD’s maybe the most commonly used, as it will work upto 6mA DC. You need to take into account, that over 6mA however a Type A device could be blinded and fail to operate correctly. If the charger does not have RDC-DD a type B RCD would be used and so on, for example, an AC RCD would not be fitted upstream of a Type A, F or B, as the load characteristics could impairoperation of the Type AC when in series.

                                  Regulations also require a surge protection device to be installed, when installing a charger. This is because an SPD is not fitted within the charger 🙂

                                   

                                   

                                   

                                  #251728
                                  kezo
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                                    Thanks for all the quick responses. i was aware of Motabiltity’s guidance on installation of an EV charger , and the distances mentioned therein, but without going under the floor, there is no obvious ‘cable route’ to my driveway, hence the question “does Motabiliy offer a pre-installation survey service prior to placing an order for an EV?” I have Motor Neurone Disease, so accessing location of my electricity meter to take photographs is impossible for me and it’s difficult to explain to my wife/full time carer.

                                    Hi, I would speak with Motability and request a pre site inspection prior to ordering. They do, do them but, I guess it down to who you speak to.

                                    However I have never come across a situation in a domestic property, of the need to lift the floorboards for a charger to be fitted. If your meter is near or on an external wall, the prefered method would be to fix the cable around the perimeter of the buiding, to where you want the charger. Alternitavely it can be in trunking to the nearest external wall and a hole drilled to take the cable externaly if your consumer unit is in the middle of your house. If it is your preferance to go under the floorboards, it will be much cheaper and dare I say it a better job, to get a local sparky to lay the cable for you from point a to b and get Motability/Ohme connect and fit the charger 🙂

                                    #251729
                                    kezo
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                                      Hi guys I have a question too.my metre is in the wall next to my front door I want the charger on the same wall,is this classed as an easy install?

                                      If by in the wall, you mean your meter is in a meterbox outside, it will be an installers dream as Abercol suggests! Probably only take them a couple hrs max 🙂

                                      #251740
                                      John Newton
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                                        Thanks for the replies, I’m glad that it would seem that it will be a simple install, I did not know what counted as a simple install or a not simple install. I am glad to know that it sounds pretty straightforward.

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                                        #251747
                                        Ioniq
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                                          Ohme could and should send out an engineer to do a site survey if you cannot do this yourself.

                                          Until your property is surveyed by a professional, you are just guessing.

                                          My meter box is inside wall  in the hallway on the gable next to the drive. All the electrics are 2 m from the front of the property.

                                          I completed the Ohme survey early July and have a provisional date of February for installing the chargepoint.

                                          I have complained twice to Motability, and the complaints go into a deep well, never to be seen again.

                                          #251788
                                          DumfriesDik
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                                            Welcome to the world of pain!

                                            Non-standard install here (£750). The paperwork is a faff but once the fitters, I had two, are on site they took no prisoners and even broke the paving slab that they said they might, amazing! However, the work was done to a good standard and the charger works!

                                            It will all be a distant memory before you know it.

                                            Chin up people.

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                                            #251827
                                            aljohno
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                                              My fuse box is the old style fuses and not a consumer unit will I need to upgrade prior to having a charger fitted?

                                              #251832
                                              kezo
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                                                My fuse box is the old style fuses and not a consumer unit will I need to upgrade prior to having a charger fitted?

                                                Not necessarily the case as a standalone consumer unit can be installed, providing your incoming supply and meter tails will take the additinal load.

                                                Fitting a RCD to protect your old off white, black or metal Wylex fuse box, along with swopping the rewireable fuses with plug in MCB’s, may however, be a worthy upgrade, to offer a level of protection, rather than going the whole hog and swopping over to a consumer unit.

                                                Feel free to post a pic of your meter cupboard, if you have any specific questions.

                                                #251836
                                                Ele
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                                                  Shocked to hear how long people are having to wait to have an Ohme installed

                                                  Suspect install wait times will be shorter once all the Easee chargers have been swapped over to Ohme

                                                  Reletivly straight forward to do its just that it involves so many chargers

                                                  I assume

                                                  #251846
                                                  aljohno
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                                                    My fuse box is the old style fuses and not a consumer unit will I need to upgrade prior to having a charger fitted?

                                                    Not necessarily the case as a standalone consumer unit can be installed, providing your incoming supply and meter tails will take the additinal load. Fitting a RCD to protect your old off white, black or metal Wylex fuse box, along with swopping the rewireable fuses with plug in MCB’s, may however, be a worthy upgrade, to offer a level of protection, rather than going the whole hog and swopping over to a consumer unit. Feel free to post a pic of your meter cupboard, if you have any specific questions.

                                                    I have been trying to post a pic @kezo but I don’t know how haha. When I click on the icon it’s asking for the source??

                                                    #251849
                                                    kezo
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                                                      I have been trying to post a pic @kezo but I don’t know how haha. When I click on the icon it’s asking for the source?

                                                      Take phot and store it in folder on your device

                                                      Click inset/edit image icon

                                                      To the right of source you will see a black folder, with a magnifing glass ontop. Click on that

                                                      It will take you to your folders on your device

                                                      Navigate to the folder where the image is stored

                                                      Cick on the image

                                                      Click open

                                                      The image location will then be seen in the source field, in the insert image tab

                                                      Click ok and the image should upload.


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                                                      will help if you become stuck 🙂

                                                       

                                                       

                                                      #251852
                                                      aljohno
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                                                        @Kezo Thank you. As you will be able to see a couple of the fuses have been replaced with MCB’s but that’s about all I know about electrics. Any input from you would be greatly appreciated.

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