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- June 10, 2023 at 1:27 pm#223271
Hyundai Ioniq 6
168kW Premium 77kWh 4dr Auto
added to scheme today 10/6/23 it’s stunning but I think very impractical for wheelchairs scooters etc… with its sloping rear plus a hefty £8k AP but then it has an RRP of £47ki know the scheme is fantastic and nothing is perfect but it’s pushing the electric agenda & maybe missing out on the range and practicality of other petrol or petrol / hybrids & lower AP’s.
it’ll be interesting v to see how it fares in the scheme or indeed how long it’ll be in the scheme ???
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- June 10, 2023 at 4:18 pm #223278
RogerWilkoAt the same time Hyundai added various spec i10s to the scheme for those who don’t wish to spend too much on a brand new car.
I was at a Hyundai dealer today to test drive the ionic 5, excellent car for the AP and they had a Ionic 6 there as a test car. Very nice looking car but not for us as it has a boot not a hatch, but is a very nice car.
June 10, 2023 at 5:03 pm #223288I think it’s a fantastic addition for the scheme but not necessarily for the users of the scheme. Let me explain. The Ioniq6 is the latest, most marketed, hottest release in the EV world for a while from any legacy manufacturer. It’s also winning awards for fun right now. Over the last few years, cars like that haven’t been on the scheme, it’s not been necessary to shift the required units. Hyundai have, for whatever reason, added the base model to the scheme (base model retailing at £46,260) and that’s good for the scheme. Now Motability can use that as an example of why other manufacturers are falling behind when these cars are available. Remember the list in December 2022 was the Nissan Ariya at nearly £10k, MGs or the Stellantis offerings. Since then we’ve gained access to Skoda, Audi, VW, Ford (well, technically a Mustang) and a fair few sought after brands on top.
But the Ioniq6 isn’t for me, can’t fit a chair in the boot!! You’re right, it’s not high on the expectations I’d have for a Motability car but fear not, it’s still a very good car. For those who work and lease but are eligible for the scheme, this might bring them back, or at least have them look at the offerings. I couldn’t have it, it’s far too low for my knees, I’d need a winch and that’s not happening.
So, it’s an exciting and positive step for the scheme and could well lead to others joining in with models that aren’t on the scheme but the price suggest there’s no reason not to, like the EV6 and some of the Chinese releases that are suitable (if you’re willing to go Chinese).
RogerWilko, I’d love to see your thoughts on the Ioniq5, I discounted it on wait times alone.
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June 10, 2023 at 5:30 pm #223287
PaulYes i prefer the 5,far more practicle .I sat in the 6 lovely car and cabin is better than the 5 but rear room not great and the boot space entrance not good for wheelchair at all.It reminded me of the merc cla.
June 10, 2023 at 5:55 pm #223297
Gary VNot driven an Ioniq 5 but looked at 1 when having a look at a Tucson and I think it’s gorgeous.
Would have seriously considered it if it was on the scheme when I changed but c’est la vie
June 10, 2023 at 6:06 pm #223300
RogerWilkoMFIllingham, I’ve put a review in the Motability car reviews, and was very surprised how good it was, it even passed the wife’s stern look too
June 10, 2023 at 6:15 pm #223303MFIllingham, I’ve put a review in the Motability car reviews, and was very surprised how good it was, it even passed the wife’s stern look too
I saw it after posting here, excellent review. Sorry about your eye, I can’t imagine struggling to see.
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June 12, 2023 at 12:19 pm #223399
ldc7080i don’t know if i speak for the majority but these cars with a £4k + AP might as well not be on the scheme . i certainly don’t have that kind of money to splash out
i know the world has changed and non of it is motabilities fault but they have changed their guide lines so many times in the last 10 years
June 12, 2023 at 1:54 pm #223404
RogerWilkoIdc7080 I’m sorry, but I totally disagree.
there is no means test for PIP, nor should there be. If a person want to spend a lot of money because they can afford to then that’s fine. What woukd be next\? Only the disabled in wheelchairs should only be catered for on the scheme?
I want to see more choice available, many PIp claimants work, many parents of children with PIP work and the choices should be much more open than currently available because of stupid price caps.
Currently there are 82 cars available up to an AP of £100, yes,mtgere should be more, but there should be more cars with all APs.
I have £11,000 put to one side for my next car, wehich the AP will be £5,000 plus, and if I want an Enyaq with the extra packages, tgat can hit £10,000 as they won’t put the Sportline version in the scheme because of this arbitrary max AP of £8,000.is my disability different to someone who has zero money for the AP and can get a grant to pay for the AP?
mire choice at all APs with no upper limit, every individual chooses how to spend their money and that’s how it should be, not people trying to only cover the lowest common denominator
June 12, 2023 at 1:57 pm #223406My only concern with vehicles with a very large advance payment being on the Scheme is that they can tempt people to over stretch themselves financially or get into unnecessary debt.
June 12, 2023 at 2:29 pm #223408i don’t know if i speak for the majority but these cars with a £4k + AP might as well not be on the scheme . i certainly don’t have that kind of money to splash out i know the world has changed and non of it is motabilities fault but they have changed their guide lines so many times in the last 10 years
This discussion has been had many times, on one hand there’s those who have to survive without employment, on the other there’s those who can work sufficiently to have a decent amount of money or who have money from elsewhere and don’t feel it’s right to be limited to budget driving.
I know I couldn’t dream of accessing a new car without the scheme but that doesn’t mean that a combination of what I’m used to driving, what I need and what I can pay (this time at least) shouldn’t be on the scheme. Yes, life would be a lot better if APs returned to where they were some 5 years ago but that’s unlikely to happen any time soon.
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June 12, 2023 at 2:33 pm #223410My only concern with vehicles with a very large advance payment being on the Scheme is that they can tempt people to over stretch themselves financially or get into unnecessary debt.
That’s a fair point, I’ve heard a few people talking about borrowing the AP and repaying that over 3 years. I can see sense in doing it the other way around (save 1/36th of the AP each month and you’re ready for the next car) but in a world where debt is too easy to come by and waaay harder to pay off if things go pearshaped, it’s a risk.
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June 13, 2023 at 7:22 am #223444
PaulThe way APs are at the moment, it looks like i will have to keep my present car for 5years(currently 10 months in) to save toward my next car .
June 13, 2023 at 7:23 am #223443
PhilI’ve no problem with big AP’s or people willing to pay them. It’s the spec of some of these cars that bothers me.
If you’re paying premium AP’s then it shouldn’t be a stretch to expect somewhere close to premium spec. At the end of the day, these cars go on to make good money after Motability due to mainly being low milage, well maintained, and cared for cars. Us on the scheme shouldn’t have to feel like we’re paying for the deprecation of the car upfront in a costly AP.
June 13, 2023 at 2:36 pm #223458
olpkRather have Kia EV6
June 16, 2023 at 7:08 am #223600the difference in spec of the premium vs ultimate is quite shocking, even the pop out door handles are manual rather than auto on premium… shocking when its std on all trim levels on cars that have motorised flush door handles.
June 16, 2023 at 12:07 pm #223614It’s a car I would consider but not at the trim level offered on the scheme.
I don’t do basic trims.
June 17, 2023 at 12:01 am #223650It’s a car I would consider but not at the trim level offered on the scheme. I don’t do basic trims.
Each to their own n all that but it wouldn’t be for me either
i think its a great addition to the scheme and would be a great car , just not in that spec sadly
I’ve a neigbhour that’s got a brand new Q7 in the lowest spec – looks crap , could be an old escort estate on stilts
quite a young couple too , obviously what they chose is not my business or going to keep me awake at night ? but I do wonder why pay all that money for big premium car that looks rubbish with such a low spec , doesn’t even have a reverse camera , rubbish styling , alloys , big chunky wheels ?
Other options out there for the same price that look the berries and have a shed load of kit to make driving more enjoyable
Like I said , each to their own maybe they don’t care ??♂️ , just an observation I see on this subject
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Make melonade!June 17, 2023 at 12:09 am #223653Probably the badge. ICE vehicles are still subject to badge snobbery, where BEVs seem less prone to such separation. For example the EV6 GT, iX3 and E-tron are all similar prices and yet if you ask around EV forums and groups the EV6 is held in higher esteem. It seems the quality of the car matters more than the imagery and assumed esteem a badge provides.
Some people, especially when the scheme is brought into consideration, need a larger vehicle and will only have the funds to meet size requirements without being able to step up in spec.
As you say, each to their own, we all make decisions based on our personal requirements, it’s just that some include external influence in those requirements.
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June 19, 2023 at 11:45 am #223800
ldc7080well we are chalk and cheese then. i was merely making the point that i believe for most these APs are out of sight so might as well not be there but if you have the money then good luck to you. but i do feel that you are in a minority
June 19, 2023 at 12:03 pm #223802personally anything with an ap over £1500 is out of my reach, fortunately i am on wpms so the ap is reduced a little anyway. gcb and the veterans auto grant make up most of the £1500 max.
fortunately the juke was well below this but the mini countryman similar to the one i handed back was over 1700 as was the mini jcw which arrived too late on the scheme for me to consider otherwise i may have stayed with mini.
but i have to say i am pleased with the juke so far.
June 19, 2023 at 12:33 pm #223803personally anything with an ap over £1500 is out of my reach, fortunately i am on wpms so the ap is reduced a little anyway. gcb and the veterans auto grant make up most of the £1500 max. fortunately the juke was well below this but the mini countryman similar to the one i handed back was over 1700 as was the mini jcw which arrived too late on the scheme for me to consider otherwise i may have stayed with mini. but i have to say i am pleased with the juke so far.
that’s great to hear mate ?? I saw a new one the other day and it looked really smart!
stick up a pic or 2 when you have the time , I’d like to see what it’s like at the steering wheel
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Make melonade!June 28, 2023 at 1:37 pm #224549I tried to look at one of these at my local Hyundai dealership. Got there and every single parking space was taken up by the dealership’s cars including the disabled spaces. I pointed this out to one of their staff who had just parked up in one of those spaces and all he did was shrugged his shoulders and walked off. I could see one of these from my car and my first thoughts was that it looks better in the flesh than it does in the pictures. Maybe I’ll be passing a different dealership at some point which has somewhere to park.
June 28, 2023 at 1:50 pm #224550I tried to look at one of these at my local Hyundai dealership. Got there and every single parking space was taken up by the dealership’s cars including the disabled spaces. I pointed this out to one of their staff who had just parked up in one of those spaces and all he did was shrugged his shoulders and walked off. I could see one of these from my car and my first thoughts was that it looks better in the flesh than it does in the pictures. Maybe I’ll be passing a different dealership at some point which has somewhere to park.
It’s astounding how some dealerships really don’t appear to care one jot for customers, of any description.
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June 28, 2023 at 1:57 pm #224545
JjStandard features are excellent and hard to find on other models;
- Heat Pump
- 20″ Alloys
- Electric front seats
- Heated front and rear (outer) seats.
- Autonomous Level 2 driving
This is probably the best car that is available on the scheme.
June 28, 2023 at 3:00 pm #224554I tried to look at one of these at my local Hyundai dealership. Got there and every single parking space was taken up by the dealership’s cars including the disabled spaces. I pointed this out to one of their staff who had just parked up in one of those spaces and all he did was shrugged his shoulders and walked off. I could see one of these from my car and my first thoughts was that it looks better in the flesh than it does in the pictures. Maybe I’ll be passing a different dealership at some point which has somewhere to park.
It’s astounding how some dealerships really don’t appear to care one jot for customers, of any description.
This place has always been the same. Maybe they’re telling us that they don’t want Motability customers. There were plenty of spaces around the back where they could put their own cars but customers aren’t allowed to park there.
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