Nissan Q2 List and Ford Q2

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  • #217635
    Avatar photoRetro89
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      £800 increase on the EPower QQ 🙁

      Car History:
      Ford Fiesta
      Vauxhall Astra Mk6
      Mazda 3
      BMW 2 Series Coupe
      Mercedes A Class
      Vauxhall Astra Mk8 (Lease ended early)
      Renault Austral

      #217639
      kezo
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        £800 increase on the EPower QQ ?

        Yeh they can kiss my ass if they think I’m going to pay £4k for a QQ E-power or not!

        #217640
        Phaedra
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          £4000 for a Tekna QQ, no thanks 🙁

          Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

          #217643
          kezo
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            From what I can gather up to yet – Mazda CX-5 has increased by 20% Nissan QQ 20%+ and most other manufacturers AP’s down a bit?

            #217646
            Phaedra
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              Indeed, it’s a pretty mixed bag.

              To be honest the Exclusive Line Maxda at £2500-£3000 is built to a much higher standard and has more driver safety features etc. than the QQ Tekna at £4000.

              You may get less mpg but the £1000 would more than cover the differnce over the 3 years (according to my usage).

              Of course there’s also the Kuga Vignale at £2645 for their top spec and good mpg.

              Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

              #217648
              postmanpat68
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                Nissan have told me the X-trail is no longer on the scheme despite being on their own motability pricing.

                I have had a similar experience this morning with trying to order a Kuga Vignale hybrid with it on Fords price list but motability wont let the dealer order as it’s computer says no!.

                #217649
                Phaedra
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                  Kuga Vignale FHEV that is.

                  Dealer I spoke to said no problem ordering but 4-6 months wait time.

                  I do wish they’d increase the post edit time, some of us with brain problems need a bit longer to get things right or even remember what we wanted to say in the first place 🙂

                  Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                  #217653
                  kezo
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                    I agree @Phaedra I had the Tuscon ICE, The PHEV was £3.5k more. That £3.5k will see 3yrs worth of fuel with a littles change. I’m just kicking myself because I went back to manual, which my knee and foot doesn’t thank me for. So agreed with MB I will be able to have an early termination or leave at this rate!

                    #217700
                    Glos Guy
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                      Ref the Kuga, has anyone been clever enough to work out what sort of mileage you’d have to do to more than offset the additional £65 per month (plus cost of charging) that the PHEV models cost over the non plug-in hybrid? Also, what sort of mpg does the FHEV auto achieve in real world driving?

                      #217701
                      Phaedra
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                        Most posts I’ve seen about the FHEV say 50-51mpg.

                        I may see if I can be bothered to go back to the Ford garage tomorrow and see if the Motability person is in, the one I’ve used there previously was very good.  At the moment I’m a bit fed up with it all and trying not to put any stress on my heart with worrying about it, still got to see yet another consultant and apparently 3 new meds to sort out.  Add waiting for an MRI for the clot and things are going really well!!!.

                        I’m leaning towards keeping the Ateca until something better comes along at a sensible price (HaHa) just have to get used to not being able to drive it when it snows or is very wet 🙂

                        Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                        #217704
                        postmanpat68
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                          Dealer managed to order the kuga 2.5l Duratec FHEV 190PS CVT Automatic FWD £2695 in Lucid red today.

                          This was following Motability saying it wasn’t on the scheme but the dealers list said different.

                          #217705
                          Phaedra
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                            Excellent, good for you 🙂

                            Did he give you a timescale for delivery?

                            Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                            #217707
                            postmanpat68
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                              Excellent, good for you ? Did he give you a timescale for delivery?

                               

                              It was from stock, so about a week. ??

                              #217716
                              Phaedra
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                                Wow, mine said 4-6 months!

                                Which dealer was it? It may well be worth a trip to get one that quickly! 🙂

                                Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                                #217717
                                postmanpat68
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                                  Phaedra.

                                  It was Evans Halshaw Ford.

                                  #217718
                                  Phaedra
                                  Participant

                                    Thanks 🙂

                                    We have one in Darlington about 30 miles away so not too bad 🙂

                                    Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                                    #217722
                                    Oscarmax
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                                      Ref the Kuga, has anyone been clever enough to work out what sort of mileage you’d have to do to more than offset the additional £65 per month (plus cost of charging) that the PHEV models cost over the non plug-in hybrid? Also, what sort of mpg does the FHEV auto achieve in real world driving?

                                      I have used Zap Map Tools which is a reasonably accurate comparison based on 8,000 mile per year.

                                      Ford Kuga PHEV vs Hybrid based on petrol @ 1.47 pence litre.

                                      PHEV electric @ 20 pence kWh 11.3 pence a mile = £908

                                      PHEV electric @ 34 pence kWh 14 pence a mile = £1123

                                      Hybrid at 45 mpg 14.85 pence a mile £1188.00

                                      Kuga PHEV ST £4145/Hybrid £2495 AP difference = £1650 or £45.83 a month.

                                      Kuga PHEV ST X £5045/Hybrid 2695 AP difference £2350 or £65.28 month.

                                      Based on these figures a hybrid running cost over a 36 month lease £3564, a PHEV @ 20 pence a kWh £2724 a saving of £840 over a 36 month lease, or a a more realistic 34 pence @ kWh £3369 a saving of £195 over a 36 month lease.

                                       

                                      Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

                                      #217726
                                      Phaedra
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                                        I may be doing this wrong but the PHEV’s work out a lot more expensive over the 3 years even at 11.3p/Mile

                                        FHEV
                                        AP £2695
                                        24000 Miles @ 45mpg = 533 Gal
                                        @ £1.44L = £3,448
                                        £6,143 over 3 years

                                        PHEV
                                        AP £4145
                                        24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712
                                        £6,857 over 3 years Plus any petrol used

                                        AP £5045
                                        24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712
                                        £7,757 over 3 years Plus any petrol used

                                        Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                                        #217728
                                        Oscarmax
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                                          I may be doing this wrong but the PHEV’s work out a lot more expensive over the 3 years even at 11.3p/Mile FHEV AP £2695 24000 Miles @ 45mpg = 533 Gal @ £1.44L = £3,448 £6,143 over 3 years PHEV AP £4145 24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712 £6,857 over 3 years Plus any petrol used AP £5045 24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712 £7,757 over 3 years Plus any petrol used

                                          Nothing wrong with your figure, quite similar to my estimates, you have gone one step further and added the AP’s on, it mind blowing expensive.

                                          I might go mad a lease a Hyundia Kona 64kWh Ultimate £2099 and 5 pence a mile @ 20 pence a kWh, £400 a year, £1200 over a 36 month lease total £3299.

                                          Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

                                          #217729
                                          Oscarmax
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                                            I may be doing this wrong but the PHEV’s work out a lot more expensive over the 3 years even at 11.3p/Mile FHEV AP £2695 24000 Miles @ 45mpg = 533 Gal @ £1.44L = £3,448 £6,143 over 3 years PHEV AP £4145 24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712 £6,857 over 3 years Plus any petrol used AP £5045 24000 Miles @ 11.3p/Mile £2,712 £7,757 over 3 years Plus any petrol used

                                            Nothing wrong with your figure, quite similar to my estimates, you have gone one step further and added the AP’s on, it mind blowing expensive. I might go mad a lease a Hyundia Kona 64kWh Ultimate £2099 and 5 pence a mile @ 20 pence a kWh, £400 a year, £1200 over a 36 month lease total £3299.

                                            Sorry I should have stated a fuel saving only

                                            Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

                                            #217732
                                            Phaedra
                                            Participant

                                              No problem at all 🙂

                                              I’ve emailed the nearest Evans Halshaw branch to see what they come back with, I had a Kuga back in 2014/15, unfortunately a massive hail shower covered it in very large dents!.  Motability’s preferred repair people completely ruined it, had about 6 chances to sort it out but each time it came back with things that weren’t wrong to start with!.  Eventually it went to a Ford main dealer, got sorted and a couple of months later I lost my award so had to hand it back!.

                                              Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!

                                              #217801
                                              Avatar photoRetro89
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                                                The facelifted Kuga coming later this year has some nice changes.

                                                (These are pictures of the Ford Escape which i believe is what the Kuga is called in other countries)

                                                Car History:
                                                Ford Fiesta
                                                Vauxhall Astra Mk6
                                                Mazda 3
                                                BMW 2 Series Coupe
                                                Mercedes A Class
                                                Vauxhall Astra Mk8 (Lease ended early)
                                                Renault Austral

                                                #217810
                                                postmanpat68
                                                Participant

                                                  Well my Kuga was taken by another dealership because motability took too long to approve the order as it wasn’t on their system ????

                                                  I was told this morning that there are only 4 FHEV’s in the country so I am back to square one again.

                                                  #217813
                                                  postmanpat68
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                                                    I believe the facelift is now in the uk  and available as the the 23.25  model and the only difference is the bigger infotainment system but I may be wrong.

                                                     

                                                    #217818
                                                    Avatar photoRetro89
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                                                      Tbh i like both exteriors. That Sync4 system though is miles better than Sync3.

                                                      Car History:
                                                      Ford Fiesta
                                                      Vauxhall Astra Mk6
                                                      Mazda 3
                                                      BMW 2 Series Coupe
                                                      Mercedes A Class
                                                      Vauxhall Astra Mk8 (Lease ended early)
                                                      Renault Austral

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