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ok now ive had some pretty responsible jobs over the years and i dont think anyone who knew me in those jobs would call me indecisive so what is it about lease renewal time that turns me into a ditherer incapable of making a final decision about something that should be relatively straightforward.
i mean it should be easy, is it automatic can i get in and out comfortably is it a comfortable drive. whats hard about that????
this time alone i have been to 8 dealerships sat in a dozen or more cars and the best i can do is cut it down to 6.
last week i had convinced myself the sensible me should discount the ateca,cx5,quahqai and the karoq as simply being much bigger than i need and they are all about the same mpg as my current countryman.
leaving the mokka either petrol or electric same price or the juke hybrid 50+mpg…but £200 more.
but then i thought extend for 2 years save the refunded difference between wpms and pip and hope something pops up along the way.
does anyone else end up going in circles lol?
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Mitch, I saw the new Mokka pull up in a car park next to me yesterday & it looked terrific. It was all in black – everything – and really did look very nice indeed. It’s not a big car and looked a nice height off the ground.
I know what you mean about choosing the right car though – how difficult it can be. I think it’s because you are going to ‘own’ that car for 3-years and therefore you need it to be the right choice. The last thing you really want to do is have to change it months after receiving it because it isn’t suitable. It’s somewhat difficult because sometimes your head says one thing but your heart says another!
Good luck whichever car you eventually choose. That all-black Mokka did look stunning though! 😉
if all the badges etc were black, thats the gs line it does look awesome with all the trim that would normally be chrome all blacked out it is stunning like that and cheaper lol.
the ultimate electric is £623 wpms the gs line electric is £323 but in petrol the ultimate is £623 and the g s line costs more £1023.00.
all a bit bonkers really but if i went for black i would go g s line but in the ultimate you cant get the black badges etc so i would go mamba green.
I always struggle @mitch especially this time around with the lack of choice. Just like you I was looking at leaving the scheme and buying new or nearly new depending on what I went for. In the end I ordered the Tuscon ultimate December just gone, after much too and froing looking at it. My main concer was mpg (avg 32.5), but took a similar view to you – I could leave the scheme or exchange it if something better came along on the scheme.
The Mokka in all sense of things is a rebadged 3008 albeit maybe not quite as plush. but that does not distract from its overall looks interally and externally, I actually quite like it, sadly was a little small for our needs. My cousin as not long took delivery of EV version and loves it.
Out of the two my choice would be with the Mokka, never been a fan of the Juke. You also get to bank £200 which may help if you chose to leave the scheme at a later date.
This time around I found it relatively easy as there wasn’t much that suited my needs and came in budget.
If I had more to spend on AP it might have been another story.
If I seem a little strange, that's because I am.
Skoda Karoq SEL.
thats true wardygtc, i am fortunate in that wpms reduces the ap initially and veterans agency funds a grant for those needing an auto due to their injuries of up to £660. so the mokka would effectively cost me very little in that 3 would be paid for by the grant and the g s line petrol would reduce to 4ooish.
the juke would come down to £163 which would make the heat pack at £295 easily doable.
the paints i like black or mamba green on the mokka and black or burgandy for the juke are all free so the 2 of them are definately the most cost effective solution.
the juke hybrid would be the better petrol solution, but could i get the electric to work without home charging?
lol see round and round we go lol.
ok now ive had some pretty responsible jobs over the years and i dont think anyone who knew me in those jobs would call me indecisive so what is it about lease renewal time that turns me into a ditherer incapable of making a final decision about something that should be relatively straightforward. i mean it should be easy, is it automatic can i get in and out comfortably is it a comfortable drive. whats hard about that???? this time alone i have been to 8 dealerships sat in a dozen or more cars and the best i can do is cut it down to 6. last week i had convinced myself the sensible me should discount the ateca,cx5,quahqai and the karoq as simply being much bigger than i need and they are all about the same mpg as my current countryman. leaving the mokka either petrol or electric same price or the juke hybrid 50+mpg…but £200 more. but then i thought extend for 2 years save the refunded difference between wpms and pip and hope something pops up along the way. does anyone else end up going in circles lol?
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I love the process of looking, you know what I mean looking at manufacturers website making a short list then going to dealers to check your choices in the metal, going to forums and checking for any issues, great it’s when I’ve made the decision I hate because I know I’m going to start picking holes in my choice ie have I spent to much on the AP, as it all I need or do I need all that tech.
I’ve already ordered my next car it’s a BEV and boy I’m I having panic about it.thats it exactly fastbike1000, each time i decide something be it colour or engine the doubts start and you second guess everything. especially when theres an ev in the mix and it adds range anxiety to the mix.
one day i decide 209 is plenty but the next i read something that says its really 120 etc etc.
anyway ive arranged a test drive in a juke hybrid nconnecta for next sunday so that sorts one out.
i will try and get to vauxhall dealer sometime next week and do the same.
the lists are the other thing for me ive loads of them for each car what do the different ones have or dont have etc etc. ive almost filled an entire legal pad with scribblings over the last month or so.
If both the Juke and Mokka had zero ap or if you won a competition and could choose between these two cars. Which one would you lean more towards?
When we were spoilt for choice, I would make a long list and take several test drives, list the pro´s and con´s etc. This time with covid restrictions and a smaller choice, I limited my choice to two cars, both electric.
I am from a finance background, and probably had to make dozens of decisions every day, however, choosing a car for ourselves can be tricky.
What I find frustrating is that decide on a certain trim level and then you realise something important is missing like parking sensors or curtain air bags but you can then add them as options for £x. Then you realise that the next trim level up will cost you £y. At which point you realise that you could get the next model up with a smaller engine for £y!
But you also realise that a different manufacturer has a limited time offer on a different vehicle for £y plus a few £s.
And so it goes round and round.
Hence, I know it may sound contrary to current opinion, I would like MB to CUT the number of variants which skew the number of vehicles available. Instead, negotiate with the brands to offer higher spec (and often safer models) at a lower AP based on volume and that higher specification models always have better residuals.
The most frustrating thing for myself this past year and a half and not able to test drive cars is doing months and months of research on the very few suitable cars I can find only to have the car in question taken off the scheme a week before I’m able to order.
Talk about going around in circles, I now know how a mad dog feels when it chases its tail.?
I am head of procurement for a large organisation, so I am used to doing contracts, making decisions and sorting out “same but different” criteria all the time. Usually I search Motability, come up with a shortlist based on spec/size/engine/mpg/AP etc, then test drive them all, this usually whittles it down to two contenders, I then take the wife and dog along for another test drive of the two and her subjective choices are added to the mix, usually resulting in a winner. She won’t do the full test drive everything thing, last time that was 6 vehicles (Kia Soul EV chosen, second choice was a Toyota Rav4), the time before that, 12 vehicles (Ford S-Max chosen, second was a Skoda Kodiaq).
In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.
kezo, i reckon its the juke, been to vauxhall today and i reckon the roofline of the mokka is much lower.
i found it more difficult to get in today, so to make sure i am taking tape measure on sunday to the juke test drive and measure the actual door space opening i you see what i mean. i think the front top corner is quite a bit higher. i am sure for the juke i didnt have to duck my head as much as i did today.
anyway the tape will tell lol.
found it the juke is 62mm higher, 6.2cm 2 1/2 inches and it actually feels like more lol.
so that leaves which one choice of 3.
1.0 n-connecta £346, and it looks like the heat pack is included if i read the mota page right.47mpg
1.6 hybrid n-connecta £846 but heat pack is £295 extra cloth seats. so £1118 55mpg.
1.0 teckna £1246 leather and all the toys inc bose and headrest speakers. 46mpg.
Hi @mitch I actually called into Nissan today to look at the Qashqui 190. I also took a look at the Juke whil’st I was there. I must say its worlds apart from the Juke I had in my head ~(older one). The interior was pleasant, reminisant of Mercedes with its airvents. The satnav ontop of the dash looked modern and overall less plastiky than the Mokka with its swept cluster infotaiment. Overall very nice compared to how they use to be.
Now Ive seen the Juke in the flesh and comparing it to the Mokka which I know well, If it were me choosing for myself, asides rear headroom:
The Mokka EV, if I rember write you would not beable to charge at home. Although MB would give you I believe 3yrworth of charging its the inconvienience, so I would discount this.
The Mokka 1.2 130bhp has a combined fuel economy of 51mpg, Local driving would be low 40s .
The Juke hybrid been a full hybrid will get you closer to the stated mpg with an additional benifit of doing up to 34mph in electric mode ideal for stop start traffic.
@mitch forgot where you are in the country but Holdcroft Nissan Stoke on Trent and Southwest Nissan Wellington are offering Ap contribution or cashback on the Juke if you order berfore 32st.
found it the juke is 62mm higher, 6.2cm 2 1/2 inches and it actually feels like more lol. so that leaves which one choice of 3. 1.0 n-connecta £346, and it looks like the heat pack is included if i read the mota page right.47mpg 1.6 hybrid n-connecta £846 but heat pack is £295 extra cloth seats. so £1118 55mpg. 1.0 teckna £1246 leather and all the toys inc bose and headrest speakers. 46mpg.
From my understanding the N-connecta does not come with heat pack and optional extra on all variants.
Heatpack is only standard on the Tekna/Tekna+
How many miles do you do?
i do about 250 a week now, commute is 30 miles round trip.
the n-connecta petrol on the more details page of the motability search after the serial number it says heat pack, which i take to mean its an extra included. so only £346.
it doesnt say that for the hybrid so it would be a chargeable £295 extra but worth it i reckon.total £1118.
the petrol teckna has all the bells etc but realistically the only attraction would be the leather ,bose and the fancy seats with the headrest speakers but 10mpg less than the hybrid.£1246.
so with the £660 auto grant from veterans and the gcb £600 any of them are affordable.
but the idea of the hybrid appeals as much of my commute would be electrified in some way.
the single colours are all free which suits as i like the black or the burgundy.
i am in n derbyshire almost yorkshire.
technically i can order 8th dec but the dealer says the are happy ordering before that and taking the risk as even if mota drop it they can still sell it.
Hi @mitch its worth remembering mb don’t always get specs right. I had a quick look on Nissan’s wepage.
The hybrid given its a full hybrid would be far more apealing to me given fuel prices and according to specs will do up to 34mph for a couple of miles on electric Regardless of all the gadgets we will probably only use for the first week or so. Are you a purist with music, even if you are the sound system won’t present the sort of clarity and fidelity of properly high-end systems. To be honest Ive never seen factory fitted audio to be nothing but a gimmick.
Have a read of this comparing both 1 litre and hybrid.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/19044110/i-drove-a-hybrid-nissan-juke-petrol/
hi kezo, the leather would be more of a draw for me but the seats in the showroom tekna also were very supportive so that may be the clincher at the end of the day.
the test drive on sunday in a hybrid n-connecta will decide it and then its just to decide on colour and do i need the heat pack. i havent really used the heated seats in the countryman but the heated windscreen and mirrors are awesome on a frosty morning. will have to break out the spreadsheet and go through the specs with a fine toothcomb. at least i am down to 2 versions of the same model now. petrol tekna or hybrid n-connecta.
I use to love the heated windscreen when I had a Kuga. My last 2 cars (Superb and Tuscon) I have to do the old fashioned way and you can guarantee it sets my raynauds off. I have always liked leather but is more of a necesisitty with my daughter.
Have you test drove the non hybrid to give you a comparrison on Sunday.
Take care mitch, hope all goes well Sunday and your dillema comes to an end 🙂
hes only got manuals as demos but i am going to be cheeky and nip to worksop theyve got a tekna auto.
i am sort of half way between chesterfield and worksop.
ok slightly ahead of the test drive but having gone through almost every permutation on the nissan car builder the hybrid n-connecta juke is the choice of the spreadsheets. best mpg and for £295 you can add the heat pack giving you heated seats and windscreen which is not available even as a pack on the quashqai epower n-connecta. so as i have to park on the road is i think a necessity.
so current ap 823 plus 295 for the heat pack isnt too bad £1118 given the price of some on the scheme at the moment.
is a union jack roof wrap a good idea at £325???? lol
question is black or burgundy?
black with a greyscale union jack roof ??
burgundy with a full colour union jack roof??
Morning @mitch Burgandy would be my choice, I wouldn’t waste my money on a union jack roof on a car thats not essentially mine and has no real benifit to me or convenienxe as say a heat pack would. Plus I think they are best suited white/off white colours. I agree with going for a hybrid.
However only you can choose whats best for you.
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