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Not sure if this needs its own thread or if one already exists that eluded my search!
I’m querying the difference in language Motability use and government re who can use the car
Motability state:
“The disabled person uses the car, or it’s used for their benefit”
the VED Tax exemption states:
“It must only be used for the disabled person’s personal needs. It cannot be used by the nominated driver for their own personal use”
The language is different so for example going to work would fit into Motability’s “for their benefit” as ££ equals household food etc
However surely this falls of of the tax exemptions “personal needs”
Does the language matter? and how can it be enforced? I’m not talking about obvious abuse just the vast grey in the middle!
Many on Facebook suggest the stricter tax language doesn’t apply to Motability cars – which I believe does equally apply.
Thoughts?
New regulations apply 24th Nov whereby all new public chargers 8KW+ need a contactless payment method Existing chargers too 50KW +
the regulations came in last year but operators had a years grace to comply
Tesla V4 chargers support contactless so should be OK – but V2 and V3 chargers dont and are still the majority in the UK
Tesla may get a pass as are the biggest/cheapest operator. We’ll know in a week
To be fair your ‘source’ is someone on Facebook who may be a real person or may be a prankster. We all want as many cars to choose from as possible but the reality is that we will all just have to wait and see.
True I’ve never said this is a fact – and still arent!
This is a rumour that will be substantiated soon enough if true and not if not!
I want to Add that it keeps being mentioned about Tesla becoming available on the Scheme and to clear…SNIP
Do you work for Motability?
My source does, and I’m not saying this will happen, because nothing is official until its announced.
I got an update that this will be announced next week. Re insurance Motability are increasing the excess for premium EVs this will affect Polestar, Tesla and even the the E-Mustang (for new contracts beyond April)
Other cars remain as is but having extra excess for premium EVs means higher groups can be catered for
I’m letting people know as im sure there are many that are nearing renewal. I for one am holding back to see how this pans out.
It may come to nothing but we’ll know either way soon enough.
Motability are announcing they will be at the big event next week. True its not official yet, but soon will be all being well.
I just dont see why so many are saying it will NEVER happen.
A few years back I would have agreed, but the EV market is a lot more competitive.
No one is forcing you to have a tesla – on the scheme or not, but their USP is their charging network which makes EVs possible for many that cant charge at home.
Being honest given the likely AP I’d pick many other models if charging were not a consideration.
Each to there own – you dont want one fine, many that will.
with the exception of jaguar/Land Rover the rest are confirmed or rumoured to join/re-join.
Subaru are confirmed, and the point of my post was to update on the confirmation of Tesla/Polestar
Mercedes are still in the rumour category
I think both Polestar and Tesla have valid but differing reasons to join the Motability scheme. BYD is taking a big bite out of both, and Tesla are no longer the #1 global EV seller that they were.
To be fair what manufacturer wouldn’t want to join the UKs biggest leasing company
Wanted to put a quick update on this thread, as has been a while and have news.
The Motability source that stated Tesla and Polestar are joining Motability has stated that the Big Event NEC page will be updated next week announcing both there with hand controls for test drives.
I realise this isn’t the same as announcing that they are joining the scheme but cant imagine why either would be there with hand controlled cars to drive otherwise.
There are plenty of other choices in this doesn’t pan out and I’m test driving actual cars on the scheme this weekend. I’m fortunate in that as a low miler I can extend contract
I’ll wait a few months, to see if it turns out to be true or not. I can then make an informed decision.
I’d recommend others do same, rather than just hope its true (or not!)
Judge for yourself but as I said we’ll know either way soon enough as they’d have to have this all done to be at the NEC in May
(my opinion) If they have prices to me that seems to be because they re in advanced stages of getting this done.
I only reported the rumour as exactly that, we’ll know soon enough!
It could all be a hoax – sure but this guys info has panned out before on other topics, but that doesn’t make this fact, and I’m not saying it is…
Indeed and the Polestar is even more is rumours are true!
You could get the top of the range Enyaq for £2600ish and still go away!
For me its all about the charging I live in an apartment so getting a charger is going to me either expensive or impossible. A supercharger is about a mile away!
For those that dont Facebook here are the interesting comments: Motability Big Event NEC
Russ Page : Il be there as will tesla and polestar 2 so may be worth while for anyone interested in these cars
I asked re APs for the 2: two models single motor standard range £4700 and single motor long range £7100
As per above this is very much still rumour mill – additional interesting comments in same thread re test drives, dealerships etc
Hi Russ works in operations – Its entirely up to everyone here to judge the merits of this – We’ll know before long either way.
It was actually my post on that group that got that unexpected Tesla response – I decided not to share as constantly get flamed if mentioning this anywhere.
However now someone else has mentioned it here are my thoughts:
I think it’s likely to happen as is only going to initially be available at 4 dealerships (with an additional 2 pick up points)
I suspect Tesla are dipping their toes to see how Motability work out for them, but being only at a handful of dealerships means its easier to pull the plug, if it doesn’t work for them
The AP is high at £3999 for a three (standard) or £7999 for a LR most people arent going to go for this when the likes of BYD are £0AP
Same source also stated Polestar are joining, and are slightly higher APs
It’s true, this guy could be pulling our leg, or at the last minute one side gets cold feet and pulls out.
We’ll know at the Motability event at the NEC is may as both manufactures are supposedly there with adapted cars to test drive.
Nothing official has been announced for either manufacturer , but this needs to happen soon as May isn’t far away.
Still very much rumour, its not fact till officially announced, but that if this rumour is genuine or not will be known by end May at the latest. Tesla and Polestar will be or wont be at Motability’s NEC big event
Other than my opinion, I have no additional knowledge more than anyone else who can read that thread. This is still rumour – I’m not saying its true. I’m only posting this at all as some (like me) may be able to pause their renewal decisions (via contract extension) to see how this pans out. If it comes to nothing then there are plenty of other cars on the scheme, most way cheaper!!
Fortunately we all get to choose our cars, so it Tesla isn’t your cup of tea, plenty of other choices!
I dont think the Tesla 3 or Y will win beauty awards, but that blandness is for a reason.
There are real world examples of people getting over 5 miles per Kw/h in a 3
The RWD seal has great performance too but a with much bigger battery, but as neither are on Motability, which is better is largely academic, at this time
BYD as a manufacturer are on the list and the Atto 3 is on my shortlist its a lot of car for £0AP Would I get a Seal if offered – certainly a contender!
I dont get why Tesla dont do a HUD – It wouldn’t affect the minimalism but cure of of their biggest complaints!
Given the competition in the EV market I think the Tesla 3 will come to Motability.
There are rumours that it may already be in the pipeline, but I’ll believe that once Motability officially announce!
Time will tell either way, but even if the 3 comes to the scheme it wont be a cheap car I dont think. That will discourage mass adoption vs BYD who are giving their Atto 3 away!
For me Tesla is all about the charging – if you can charge at home BYD will do the job for most
Tesla’s like all cars, are a subjective taste, and I wouldn’t choose to get one or not based on a minority shareholder! Musk owns under 15% of the company.
The advantages of Teslas far out way such concerns anyway.
Costs aside – which are coming down – The availability and ease of public charging, and constant improvements to driver assistance & range etc means this car would arguably be better in three years than it is now.
I’m not saying they’re a perfect choice, all cars have compromises, removal of indicator stork for example.
If I do ever get one – hopefully they can still add a toggle switch the my hand controls.
BYD are now on the scheme, but have very few dealerships or servicing so doubt that’s a compelling reason for Motability to not want Tesla.
Insurance groups I can see as an issue but Motability can factor that into a higher AP
Parts repairs etc are tesla actually worse than other EVs – They are all pretty bad as far as im aware!
I think the key issue is if Tesla want it – I guess Competition and smaller market share may influence that going forward!
