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- May 16, 2022 at 9:30 am#185368
I thought I would make a thread on what caught you eye in the news good or bad. This follows on from last week when I posted about the MP Lee Anderson who suggested we could cook a meal from scratch for 30p and foodbanks weren’t needed if we could cook.
So today another Tory MP Racheal Maclean the safeguarding minister has said “That people struggling with the cost of living should take on more hours or move to a better-paid job”
How does a comment like this help the most vulnerable in society. Those that can’t work, the disabled pensioners or even those that can only take up low paid work for what ever reason. I find Mp’s and ministers are so out of touch with with the public, the comments they come out with are beyond nonsense.
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- October 11, 2022 at 4:28 pm #198028
Nicola Sturgeon can hold Indyref2 as it would be ‘entirely advisory’, Supreme Court told
October 11, 2022 at 4:44 pm #198030Wigwam
The supreme court will also be considering whether the Scottish govt has any legal authority to hold an advisory referendum. A few people will be waiting some months for an answer. The rest of us would rather Sturgeon got on with her day job.
October 11, 2022 at 6:22 pm #198037October 14, 2022 at 1:35 pm #198265kwasi kwarteng sacked… probably more to follow…. Liz Truss is “trying to put clear blue water between the shit show and her”.
but she will likely have to go too..
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistOctober 14, 2022 at 3:36 pm #198268I predicted Liz would last less than 6 months when she became PM, I think she´ll be luck to last until crimbo!
October 14, 2022 at 6:24 pm #198278kwasi kwarteng sacked for Her Policy! and now the next chancellor to be drawn from magic hat is……Jeremy Hunt
Joss
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Coming soon...BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In November 2025October 14, 2022 at 7:02 pm #198291Jeremy Hunt as chancellor. How much should decent people be expected to take?
October 14, 2022 at 7:47 pm #198296coffey has been spouting to mp’s that its a shame the tax cuts are being pulled and its all the media’s fault… delusional or what?
truss says she will still follow through with her plans…. delusional or what??
letters flying in to th 1922 committee re getting shot.
odds are if she doesn’t go, they will change rules and get shot.
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistOctober 14, 2022 at 9:48 pm #198305Ironic Trussless wanted and discused these measure before the mini budget, yet she sacks Kamikaze.
Back bencher’s will undoubtably be acting like a pack of wolves!
October 15, 2022 at 1:22 am #198312The markets have taken back control: so much for Truss’s Brexit delusion of sovereignty. By Jonathan Freedland ,of the Guardian
Hard to believe now, when we’re in the middle of the maelstrom, but one day this too will be the past. And when it is, when we’re out of the hourly psychodrama – no longer staring at the screen, watching Kwasi Kwarteng’s plane do an actual U-turn in the sky en route to his being fired on touchdown, for the crime of doing what his boss wanted him to do – it may not look all that complicated.
Historians will look back and see a point of origin to the current madness, one that explains how a new prime minister could see her administration fall apart in a matter of weeks, even if we struggle to name that cause out loud right now. When the textbooks of the future come to the chapter we are living through, in the autumn of 2022, they will start with the summer of 2016: Brexit and the specific delusion that drove it.
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Coming soon...BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In November 2025October 15, 2022 at 10:01 am #198316Now the chancllor’s fate has been sealed, The markets could seal the PM’s fate in a matter of short weeks. Historians will remember Truss along with Kwasi, not only as two of shortest political heads in history, but also the one’s who finally put the nail in the coffin for the Tory party as a whole.
October 15, 2022 at 10:43 am #198319And a warning to any government that chooses to stray from the orthodoxy of the world financial establishment and the money markets it controls.
October 15, 2022 at 3:58 pm #198330A Welsh police force’s latest bid to fight crime on the streets has received some novel reactions from locals. Gwent Police has revealed this week it is rolling out four tuk-tuk vehicles to patrol parks, walkways and other public spaces in Newport and Abergavenny.
October 16, 2022 at 11:33 am #198361The markets have taken back control: so much for Truss’s Brexit delusion of sovereignty. By Jonathan Freedland ,of the Guardian Hard to believe now, when we’re in the middle of the maelstrom, but one day this too will be the past. And when it is, when we’re out of the hourly psychodrama – no longer staring at the screen, watching Kwasi Kwarteng’s plane do an actual U-turn in the sky en route to his being fired on touchdown, for the crime of doing what his boss wanted him to do – it may not look all that complicated. Historians will look back and see a point of origin to the current madness, one that explains how a new prime minister could see her administration fall apart in a matter of weeks, even if we struggle to name that cause out loud right now. When the textbooks of the future come to the chapter we are living through, in the autumn of 2022, they will start with the summer of 2016: Brexit and the specific delusion that drove it. Read more
This article is completely wrong , it is Gordon Brown who clearly and unequivocally laid the groundwork for this crisis, not Brexit!
Liz Truss may eventually turn out to be the worst PM ever, but at the moment , as the person who’s policies when Chancellor exacerbated the so called ‘Global ‘ Financial Crisis & were responsible for the worst financial crisis ever to hit the UK, very nearly bankrupting the Country , and especially by stealing over £10 billion a year from British Pension funds , ruining the pensions and aspirations of millions of people, not only by reducing the value of the Pension Funds but directly by his theft, the ensuring the demise of Final Salary pensions.
The result was / is that the pension structure is very much higher risk and very reliant on the ‘ market’ and on the whim of traders, hence when they look to unload gilts , in order to profit from the sale, pensions ( amongst other things ‘) suffer ,and to put it simply, the mini budget made them wet their silk pants , dumping gilts and reducing the value, instantly, of pensions, which is why the BofE stepped in to save the pension s of millions.
So the Chancellor was the one person who upset the red bracers brigade in the city, with them fearing having to drink Liebfraumilch at lunch rather than Moët, but
Gordon Brown, I repeat, Gordon Brown stealing £100 billion from pensioners and removing pension safeguards was the root cause of the threat to pensions!Not a Brexiteer in sight
October 16, 2022 at 12:57 pm #198376There was little old me trying to lighten the mood with my previous post ?
This article is completely wrong , it is Gordon Brown who clearly and unequivocally laid the groundwork for this crisis, not Brexit! Liz Truss may eventually turn out to be the worst PM ever, but at the moment , as the person who’s policies when Chancellor exacerbated the so called ‘Global ‘ Financial Crisis & were responsible for the worst financial crisis ever to hit the UK, very nearly bankrupting the Country , and especially by stealing over £10 billion a year from British Pension funds , ruining the pensions and aspirations of millions of people, not only by reducing the value of the Pension Funds but directly by his theft, the ensuring the demise of Final Salary pensions. The result was / is that the pension structure is very much higher risk and very reliant on the ‘ market’ and on the whim of traders, hence when they look to unload gilts , in order to profit from the sale, pensions ( amongst other things ‘) suffer ,and to put it simply, the mini budget made them wet their silk pants , dumping gilts and reducing the value, instantly, of pensions, which is why the BofE stepped in to save the pension s of millions. So the Chancellor was the one person who upset the red bracers brigade in the city, with them fearing having to drink Liebfraumilch at lunch rather than Moët, but Gordon Brown, I repeat, Gordon Brown stealing £100 billion from pensioners and removing pension safeguards was the root cause of the threat to pensions!
I don’t think the Brown/Darling government can be blamed for laying the groundwork for the Truss/Kwarteng’s government’s drastic incompentence of crashing the £, nor has Brexit got anything to do with it. As I see it the only common denominator between Brown/Truss is they both have had disasterous consequences on the country. Brown with pensions, Truss with her current failings.
Just as Brown put the final nail in the coffin for Labour, Truss will undoubtably be the final nail for the Tory’s.
As for the Guardian rag it depends whether you sit left or right. A remoaner or Brexiteer, whether you agree with its comments. Personally I have never agreed with them.
October 16, 2022 at 1:56 pm #198387Speaking to the Times Radio Robert Halfon, a senior Tory backbencher has said:
“I do think that the Prime Minister should do a fireside, a so called fireside chat to the British people apologising for the mess of the past few weeks, because I’m not looking at the opinion polls, but what I’m looking at is the reaction from my constituents, as I say, talking to people who say they are terrified. I mean, that is absolutely wrong.
“And we have done that, the government have done that to those people who work hard, or save hard, do all the right things, that Conservative voters believe in, and they are literally fearful of their future and whether or not they’ll be able to feed and clothe their, their families. And that is wrong. And that’s why there has to be, in a pretty short time, an apology and a fundamental reset of the government, by the Prime Minister.”
Halfon, the chair of the education select committee, was asked if he would be comfortable asking people to vote Conservative if there was a general election now. He replied:
“Well, I think that, you know, we talk about the economic markets, that political markets speak for themselves, it will clearly be a bloodbath if there was an election now, but I do think, you know, governments do have midterm problems. They’ve had those before. They have two years to get it right. And the public will judge us in just under two years time.”
October 16, 2022 at 2:17 pm #198389There was little old me trying to lighten the mood with my previous post
This article is completely wrong , it is Gordon Brown who clearly and unequivocally laid the groundwork for this crisis, not Brexit! Liz Truss may eventually turn out to be the worst PM ever, but at the moment , as the person who’s policies when Chancellor exacerbated the so called ‘Global ‘ Financial Crisis & were responsible for the worst financial crisis ever to hit the UK, very nearly bankrupting the Country , and especially by stealing over £10 billion a year from British Pension funds , ruining the pensions and aspirations of millions of people, not only by reducing the value of the Pension Funds but directly by his theft, the ensuring the demise of Final Salary pensions. The result was / is that the pension structure is very much higher risk and very reliant on the ‘ market’ and on the whim of traders, hence when they look to unload gilts , in order to profit from the sale, pensions ( amongst other things ‘) suffer ,and to put it simply, the mini budget made them wet their silk pants , dumping gilts and reducing the value, instantly, of pensions, which is why the BofE stepped in to save the pension s of millions. So the Chancellor was the one person who upset the red bracers brigade in the city, with them fearing having to drink Liebfraumilch at lunch rather than Moët, but Gordon Brown, I repeat, Gordon Brown stealing £100 billion from pensioners and removing pension safeguards was the root cause of the threat to pensions!
I don’t think the Brown/Darling government can be blamed for laying the groundwork for the Truss/Kwarteng’s government’s drastic incompentence of crashing the £, nor has Brexit got anything to do with it. As I see it the only common denominator between Brown/Truss is they both have had disasterous consequences on the country. Brown with pensions, Truss with her current failings. Just as Brown put the final nail in the coffin for Labour, Truss will undoubtably be the final nail for the Tory’s. As for the Guardian rag it depends whether you sit left or right. A remoaner or Brexiteer, whether you agree with its comments. Personally I have never agreed with them.
I agree that Brown cannot be blamed for the incompetence of Truss and her henchman, my point was that it was Brown’s doing that Pensions became so vulnerable , and that it had absolutely nothing to do with Brexit
October 16, 2022 at 2:48 pm #198395Speaking to the Times Radio Robert Halfon, a senior Tory backbencher has said: “I do think that the Prime Minister should do a fireside, a so called fireside chat to the British people apologising for the mess of the past few weeks, because I’m not looking at the opinion polls, but what I’m looking at is the reaction from my constituents, as I say, talking to people who say they are terrified. I mean, that is absolutely wrong. “And we have done that, the government have done that to those people who work hard, or save hard, do all the right things, that Conservative voters believe in, and they are literally fearful of their future and whether or not they’ll be able to feed and clothe their, their families. And that is wrong. And that’s why there has to be, in a pretty short time, an apology and a fundamental reset of the government, by the Prime Minister.” Halfon, the chair of the education select committee, was asked if he would be comfortable asking people to vote Conservative if there was a general election now. He replied: “Well, I think that, you know, we talk about the economic markets, that political markets speak for themselves, it will clearly be a bloodbath if there was an election now, but I do think, you know, governments do have midterm problems. They’ve had those before. They have two years to get it right. And the public will judge us in just under two years time.”
yeaah; some sort of haloween scary prank to top off her personna as the wicked witch.
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistOctober 16, 2022 at 3:25 pm #198403I agree that Brown cannot be blamed for the incompetence of Truss and her henchman, my point was that it was Brown’s doing that Pensions became so vulnerable , and that it had absolutely nothing to do with Brexit
Agree Mike700
October 16, 2022 at 3:33 pm #198405yeaah; some sort of haloween scary prank to top off her personna as the wicked witch.
It must be haloween having two wicked witches in the UK at the same time lol
October 17, 2022 at 11:39 pm #198489October 18, 2022 at 9:29 am #198495As the papers urge Tories to deal with the “lame uck” Truss reflects on tough times in No. 10.
Last night on question time a Tory peer replied to one question “we are doing no differnt than Labour did, whensending Brown through a revolving door to replace Blair without a GE”. This time is different though. The Tories are playing musical chairs with that same revolving door, with another to come through anytime soon without calling a GE.
Surely it is now time for Parliment to enact laws preventing preventing more than one leader change per term in office before calling a GE.
Surely its now time for Parliment to enact laws calling for PM’s to do a minimum term in office before being allowed to collect a PM’s wage/pension after they have left office. This minimum tern should also apply before they are allowed to decorate their flat.
October 18, 2022 at 3:41 pm #198519Seems to me it hardly matters who the PM is. The global financiers dictate economic policy, as has now been clearly shown.. All any future government will be able to do is tinker round the edges while the blob continues to hoover up all our money.
October 18, 2022 at 4:26 pm #198520looking like they are not going to raise pensions or benefits by much again; that will seal this govts fate i feel. trouble is it will also kill millions potentially
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistOctober 18, 2022 at 4:47 pm #198522September CPI index (on which pensions and most benefits from next April should be based) is out tomorrow.
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