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The scheme is no longer fit for purpose in my opinion. Looking at the prices and the cars available within my budget and those that i actually need specifications wise, I don’t see a single car that meets my needs. Electric has the answers but i have no where to park it for charging or even offers a range that meets my needs. With the current bill going through Parliment you almost wonder if Motability is actually deliberately pricing the people out of the scheme. They talk about how it enables us to find and get to work, but limited choices and prohibited costs is actually going to cost me those oppurtunities.
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The primary aim for Motability is to provide a vehicle that meets the majority of disability needs and hopefully reasonably easy to adapt for additional disability requirements – once you bring status into the equation, where does it stop Rolls Royce?
@MFillingham Very good Mark!
Never thought of myself, as a connoisseur, but now you come to mention it…😂
Hope you on the mend btw?
Can’t say it’s not fit for purpose. Looking at cars from NIL to 500, there are frontiera, capri, dacia spring, peuguot 2008, Kona, Nero, Ford Explorer. All very good cars. Mobility is a lifeline, it’s not a trifling organisation.
With Ford you miss out on HUD, Active Park Assist, 360-Degree Parking Camera and Hands-free Power-operated Tailgate, with the latter two being top of list for disabled drivers.
What did the customers do for the past 20-30 years without HUD, power tailgate (mobility screwed a strop to the tailgate). No 360 deg or parking cameras??? They got on with it.
Playing devil’s advocate here, as all of the above items are not a luxury, but a huge increase in safety. They really should standard on every vehicle. But these are nearly obsolete with the level 4 Chinese self driving cars coming on stream.
But still, there is a good choice of entry level cars at nil to low AP.
I think when answering this question you need to look at from both the perspective of those claiming it and those that in the main pay for it.
Motability was originally mainly for those people who with life changing mobility problems hence the the blue invacar, thankfully times have moved on and better vehicles have become avialable however so has the eligabilty for PIP and hence the the number of people that have access to the motability scheme.
Many people who have life changing mobility issues generally have requirements such as automatic transmission and something big enough to fit a hoist and enough boot space to accomodate various mobilty devices and its almost immposible to find a vehicle now that fits without a 4 figure up front payment especially when the cost of adaptions are added,this is especially the case for claimants that have had conditions from birth and as such have not or are no longer able to work and rely on benefits who find it hard to save the money even with assistance.
So yes I believe the system is no longer fit for purpose when those with the greatest need of mobility vehicles are increasingly have to pay more as percentage to stay mobile.
I can only comment on my personell experience of living with somebody with chronic spinal issues who uses a powered mobility device and who still goes to out work everyday and have seen the choice, avialability and cost continually rising to the point where its debatable on wether its more cost effective for the mileage to lease or buy outright.
As for the general public it is the perception of many that its easy to get a ‘free’ car all you need is a phoney limp or pretend your child has ADHD etc to qualify for PIP and recieve a lovely brand new free car the ‘likes of which us workers could never afford’ is a usual comment and to be honest when 20% of new car registrations in the UK and a whopping nearly 50% in N.I and only 10% of all motability vehicles actually have one or more adaptions fitted you can see how those with no or limited knowledge of the system end up thinking that PIP has become a con and joke and why many politicians especially from the right have jumped on the motability bashing bandwagon, despite the best efforts of many of us to educate them inline the tide is running against us.
Can’t say it’s not fit for purpose. Looking at cars from NIL to 500, there are frontiera, capri, dacia spring, peuguot 2008, Kona, Nero, Ford Explorer. All very good cars. Mobility is a lifeline, it’s not a trifling organisation.
With Ford you miss out on HUD, Active Park Assist, 360-Degree Parking Camera and Hands-free Power-operated Tailgate, with the latter two being top of list for disabled drivers.
Our new Ford Capri has all of these (with Driver Assist Pack).
We’ve never been able to get on with Park Assist on any of our cars. The HUD is great on this car due to position of the main dash display. I agree about the 360 Parking Camera and Power Tailgate being extremely useful – we had neither on our Toyota but really appreciate what we were missing.
Can’t say it’s not fit for purpose. Looking at cars from NIL to 500, there are frontiera, capri, dacia spring, peuguot 2008, Kona, Nero, Ford Explorer. All very good cars. Mobility is a lifeline, it’s not a trifling organisation.
With Ford you miss out on HUD, Active Park Assist, 360-Degree Parking Camera and Hands-free Power-operated Tailgate, with the latter two being top of list for disabled drivers.
Our new Ford Capri has all of these (with Driver Assist Pack). We’ve never been able to get on with Park Assist on any of our cars. The HUD is great on this car due to position of the main dash display. I agree about the 360 Parking Camera and Power Tailgate being extremely useful – we had neither on our Toyota but really appreciate what we were missing.
Is it standard on the EV or comes as an expensive pack like the ICE models?
Can’t say it’s not fit for purpose. Looking at cars from NIL to 500, there are frontiera, capri, dacia spring, peuguot 2008, Kona, Nero, Ford Explorer. All very good cars. Mobility is a lifeline, it’s not a trifling organisation.
With Ford you miss out on HUD, Active Park Assist, 360-Degree Parking Camera and Hands-free Power-operated Tailgate, with the latter two being top of list for disabled drivers.
Our new Ford Capri has all of these (with Driver Assist Pack). We’ve never been able to get on with Park Assist on any of our cars. The HUD is great on this car due to position of the main dash display. I agree about the 360 Parking Camera and Power Tailgate being extremely useful – we had neither on our Toyota but really appreciate what we were missing.
Is it standard on the EV or comes as an expensive pack like the ICE models?
Electric tailgate is standard on the premium variant, HUD (pointless) and 360 camera (debatable) are part of a £1300 pack (£700 for scheme users). £1000 for the lowest model available.
In regards to being fit for purpose, i very much think it is.
The purpose is to get you mobile. There’s plenty of options available for nil or below £500 – they might not be dream cars, but they very much will do the job. Electric tailgates only became widely available (in lower priced cars) in the last 10ish years, so they very much don’t count as a “requirement” – because if they were, then the scheme was never fit for purpose, ever. For reference, the Tiguan got it’s factory fitted electric tailgate with the Mk2, which released in 2020 (R-Line and SE-L). The Tucson in it’s 4th generation, 2021. The list goes on and on. The earliest “lower value” car that i can think of is the first generation Ateca, that got it’s electric tailgate in 2016 (XCellence Lux).
You can certainly get from and to the doctors with any car available, you can drive any car available to the shops and on road trips. That’s the purpose of the scheme, and it does it. The purpose is not to get you a dream car, or sort ALL of the customers issues.
I feel like people are expecting too much. Instead of moping that you can’t get a car for nil AP with electric tailgate, massage seats, full leather, 360 camera and everything else, i’m grateful that we do, if we put the money towards it. I know i’ll get flak for that opinion, but it is what it is.
Does that mean i’m happy with the current APs? Heck no. The car we’re driving currently went from £3250 (reasonably fair for a sporty, fully kitted PHEV imo) to now, an beyond asinine £7499.
But, we’d still be able to do everything we’re doing with the car right now, with most cars that cost less than £500 AP on the scheme. Just with less toys/comfort.
So, whether or not the scheme is “fit for purpose” is probably subjective, depending on what you think the purpose is. To us, it is fit for purpose, with the added bonus that you can get a “dream car” (i use that term losely, the Ioniq 6 is a good example – fully loaded, quality vehicle) for reasonable prices – certainly more reasonable than we’d be able to afford without the scheme. But we consider that a bonus, not an entitlement.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Can’t say it’s not fit for purpose. Looking at cars from NIL to 500, there are frontiera, capri, dacia spring, peuguot 2008, Kona, Nero, Ford Explorer. All very good cars. Mobility is a lifeline, it’s not a trifling organisation.
With Ford you miss out on HUD, Active Park Assist, 360-Degree Parking Camera and Hands-free Power-operated Tailgate, with the latter two being top of list for disabled drivers.
Our new Ford Capri has all of these (with Driver Assist Pack). We’ve never been able to get on with Park Assist on any of our cars. The HUD is great on this car due to position of the main dash display. I agree about the 360 Parking Camera and Power Tailgate being extremely useful – we had neither on our Toyota but really appreciate what we were missing.
Is it standard on the EV or comes as an expensive pack like the ICE models?
standard on enyaq 85x. Plus back massage to the driver
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Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.Motability Skoda Enyaq SportLine 85x April 2024 (unhappy customer - Ombudsman pending)
Motability Mazda CX-60 July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)Not sure about fit for purpose as I remember the shite blue pig three wheel cars and now there is choice, also there is the WAV now they are really expensive AP and for them I think to get a grant for one of these you need to be working or doing at least 16 hours voluntary work to justify the cost it never used to be like this but grants needed as said to justify the massive AP cost.
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