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Yup, reached a milestone today, i wasnt sure when it was going to happen.
According to the Ohme App, I have spent £120 on electricity charging the Ioniq 5.
Since the charger was fitted in February its cost £120 to fuel the car, 7 months.
My previous ICE. Car used £120 of petrol per Month.
That is quite a difference. I did not think £120 would get me 7 months of travel.
Onwards and upwards!
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@Ioniq great goal! That is some saving for sure, Well done and Kerching to cash in your pocket.
Joss
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I’m using about £13/£14 a month with the Enyaq, covered 3,288 miles since picking it up mid-January
Previous Ateca would have cost me around £590 in petrol (36mpg), Enyaq is about £95 with no effort to drive it economically whatsoever 🙂
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Fantastic result. Make the most of it whilst you can. It seems that road charging is very much on the agenda in the corridors of power. I guess it’s only the slow take up of EVs that’s kept it on the back burner so far, but I think it’s inevitable that, in years to come, running an EV will cost around the same as running an ICE car does now. No government can afford to accept a drop in the ginormous tax take from motorists.
@glos guy
Yup thats a given, i ve said that same thing on here already.
No way the Govt can make for the loss of fuel duty and road tax. New tax charges will get introduced. ULEZ will change to UULEZ, you gave to pay to enter cities unless you can offset your carbon footprint.
The free electricity on offer is a propaganda tool to push EV sales and generate publicity.
Carrot and stick works a charm.
@Ioniq I’m sure you’re right. Even though our annual mileage is above average, and when I was working way above average, it does seem fair that those who use the roads more pay more to do so. I guess that approach will benefit the majority of Motability drivers, who tend to do very low mileage.
Having just taken delivery of a PHEV, I shall enjoy the savings whilst I can. I suspect it will take some years to introduce a scheme that charges us per mile but I agree it seems inevitable that it will have to happen. Of course there’s then the added factor that BEVs and PHEVs cause more damage to our roads due to the extra weight, but I don’t see how they can factor that in as well without putting yet another obstacle in the way of the switch to electric. I guess they will factor that in to the road charges. If so, logic says that in the future we will ALL end up paying more than ICE drivers do now, regardless of what powers our cars 🙄
So after having 3-phase fitted after de-looping, finally got the 3phase meter installed. On to the. goal of getting a. 22 Kw Charger fitted. Certainly the Max. charge on Ioniqis 12Kw, but future proofing…lol.
@Ioniq Providing my eyesight isn’t playing up L2 & L3 are crossed!
Well spotted!
I have emailed Octopussy and ask if this is ok.
It could be that the DNO has incorrectly wired the dog house fuse boxes around. Surely the sparkys would picked that out during commissioning??
Anyway sent a pic and a question to Octopussy.
@kezo Well spotted! I have emailed Octopussy and ask if this is ok. It could be that the DNO has incorrectly wired the dog house fuse boxes around. Surely the sparkys would picked that out during commissioning?? Anyway sent a pic and a question to Octopussy.
It would be unlike the DNO to make a mistake!
Your service provider (Octopussy) would have wired from the service head cut-out fuses, into the EDMI 30b smart meter and the isolation switch and connected the tails from your consumer unit into it. What you have to remember, these guys are primarily single phase metering guys, whho have done a short training causes on 3 phase metering and have probably got confused with more than one brown cable 😂
The DNO’s cut-out fuses are labeled L1 (brown) L2 (black) L3 (grey) however, yours are all brown as domestic.
Incase anyone isn’t following, follow through from the DNO’s cut-out fuses:
L1, is typically used for single phase supply – you can see it going terminal 1 of the meter, it then comes out on teminal 2 and goes to terminal 1 of the isolation switch and then to the live feed of the consumer unit (correct)
Cut-out 2 (L2) then goes to teminal 5 of the meter, it then comes out of terminal 6 and goes to terminal 3 (L3) of the isolation switch – The correct way L2 from the Cut-out fuse, should have gone to terminal 3 of the meter and then out on terminal 4 to terminal 2 (L2) of the isolation switch.
Cut-out 3 (l3) then goes to terminal 3 of the meter, it then comes out of terminal 4 of the meter and goes to terminal 2 (L2) of the isolation switch – The correct way L3 from the cut-out fuse, should have gone to terminal 5 of the meter and then out on terminal 6, to terminal 3 (L3) of the isolation switch.
Therefore Phases L2 & L3 are crossed!
Because you are currently still using single phase, there’s nothing to worry about. However, a three phase supply is balanced. By balanced it means the phase voltages have the same amplitude and seperated by whats known, as a phase angle, which is 120deg. When phases 2 and 3 in this case are crossed, it leads to voltage imbalance.
Whether an imbalance, would cause a fault on a three phase charger, isn’t the point. The workmanship is questionable and needs correcting. It would require a third party electrican to hopefully spot the error and not assume everything is wired correctly on the supply side. Even if he did spot it, he has two choices – either switch phases for the charger, to correct the mistake, making them look equally as dumb or down tools and report it and come back once it has being corrected and potentially passing the cost of a wasted day onto the customer.
Brilliant @Kezo.
I remembered the 3 phases at 120 degrees from 40 years ago.
But these new smart meters are a bit of an unknown quantity.
There must be some reason it is wired this way. Any competent sparky should know how the cables should go into the meter in sequence. its like swapping L an N on a plug, it doesnt look correct.
I.ll copy an paste your summation when Octopussy replies to my email.
Thx again Kezo.
Addendum: One older guy and one younger guy. The younger guy was on the phone the whole time on a conference call with 2 other people.
The older guy says something like “That is the easy fix”. The younger guy said, “We are not allowed to do that”.
As you suggested, I reckon they were training on the job, with 2 Advisors on the conference call.
Even if for some reason, it was intentionally, they should have labeled, the isolation switch (L1 L3 L2) highlighting a non standard sequence and highlights bad practive. That said it was more than likely an accidental error and one, that really does put the onus on the electrician coming in afterwards.
As you can hopefully see from the picture, highlighting the difference’s between single and three phase charging (or rather TPN), that all three phases are wired in sequence from the DNO’s supply head, through the meter and into the isolation switch.
Hopefully we can move on to intended point – 11kW or 22kW chargers but, do let me know what Octopussy says 🙂
Just had a call from Octopussy compliance guy, or expert.
He said the L2 and L3 cutouts are crossed, and they do not touch the DNO,s equipment.
The phase has to be correct going into the meter, and the crossed tails are corrected at the isolator.
They are go ing to send an engineer out to show me the isolator wiring is correct and change the labels on the cutout.
He said it happens quite a lot when the DNO are connecting the feeds on the street.
So, the phases should be aligned at the isolator.
I asked if the could put a sticker on the cutout as a heads up for any other sparky that is working on my electrics.
If that is the case its all wired correctly however, I’m shocked the DNO didn’t put a sticker on highlighting L2 & L3 are crossed.
Tha tsaid, as long as you and your family are safe thats all that matters and is always worth checking, hence the reason I pointed it out 🙂
You spotted it dude, you are on the ball.
You explained it very well. When I put in the query to Octopussy, I used your thoughts and promoted you to ‘Compliance Manager at a DNO down South’.
As you said it was done correctly, but it was a legitimate concern.
Thanks for your help, it was spot on.
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