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Hi has anyone got the e power qashqai and any photos please want to no what is like to live with
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Just wondering does anyone know how the heating system works on the E-power. Does it work off the engine cooling system like a standard car or is an electrical system. Just that if a lot or some of the time the petrol engine is not running or up to temperature I would imagine the heater only being lukewarm. I was going to ask when I went to the dealership but not been able to get there yet.
Yes it would work as a standar ICE. My petrol engine provides decnt heat after a couple of mile’s of under 5 minutes. Are you sure your not talking abot diesel?
@Mike-700 will give you the answer on how long it takes for the heater to provide warm air for the E-power đ
kezo
No, not talking about a diesel but the Nissan Qashqai E-power.
Unless really pushing on so as the engine has to run almost continuously to keep charging the battery and so the engine is up to full operating temperature so a nice toasty cabin.
If you are just pottering around town maybe on battery only does the engine ever get to proper working temperature as to provide decent amount of heat to the cabin.
@Mike-700 will give you the answer on how long it takes for the heater to provide warm air for the E-power
My car is on a hard standing, not in a garage, so defrosting is a regular thing.
Two examples, both yesterday –
no 1. 0730 very heavy frost -5* c, got in eventually through frozen door, pressed start , then turned the heater control to high and Pressed both, the Defrost and heated rear window buttons, the fan was on max, and as soon as I did that, the engine started up.
It took a few minutes to feel any heat,but no longer than the Tiguan.
Later, at 0945 I went out again, +1*c no spray or scraping off, just started the car turned the fan up, and the engine started,, once again no longer than it took in the Tiguan to warm up.
Btw the engine runs a lot quieter than the diesel in the Tiguan
Just a note – at 1100 yesterday I drove 0.9 miles from the Gym to the shop & it recorded 99.1 mpg
On a general note, the engine runs a lot quieter than that in the Tiguan, and itâs not just the volume , the tone is different also.
Very nice! do you by any chance have the nissan connected app with this car? if so, are you able to pre-heat the car in the mornings?
Thanks!
I certainly have, but I havenât set it up as yet.
I will do it today – I was hoping that this would be the case
I certainly have, but I havenât set it up as yet. I will do it today â I was hoping that this would be the case
ah nice!! if you get a chance to test it, do let me know if it comes with the interior heating then please đ
Mike700, thanks for the information.
I currently have a 2.0 diesel Tiguan and it takes a few good while before you get any decent heat coming out and on short trips probably hardly any. Luckily I have heated seats and steering wheel. I had a Tiguan 1.5 petrol the other week whilst mine was in for repair, the difference in how quickly the car heated up was amazing.
So good to know that the Qashqai is no worse than the Tiguan
Remote heating/cooling only works with the Nissan EVs and not ePower.
Got a Qashqai E-power on Monday, really pleased with the build quality, the comfort, the drive and the features. My MPG is a bit hit or miss at the minute, some commutes I can get 99.9mpg and only use electric, some commutes have been 16/17mpg, took delivery and it said 260 miles to empty, cars empty but has only done 120 miles, hoping it settles. Got a loose drivers door handle and the middle rear seatbelt alarm keeps going off when itâs plugged in so will need to go back in for repair on that.
Also Nissan connect doesnât allow you to start or pre heat the car, just open/close , flash lights and horn and remote locate it on a map
some commutes I can get 99.9mpg and only use electric, some commutes have been 16/17mpg
Wow that can’t be right surely?
Remote heating/cooling only works with the Nissan EVs and not ePower.
you are right l have tried âevery which wayâ but currently it does not work on the epower -shame, another great selling point!
however, the e power  ,to all intents and purposes, is anâ electric carâ , driven by an electric motor powered by a battery  -in reality ,it is only the way that the battery is charged that is different?
it might therefore  just be a âsoftwareâ upgrade some time in the ( not too distant ) future  and perhaps some extra kit on the heater?
Joss will know?
you are right l have tried âevery which wayâ but currently it does not work on the epower -shame, another great selling point!
Disappointing! A great feature (especially for defrosting)
"Come on BYD Seal!"Yeah Iâm not entirely sure Whats happening, I can do a 2/3 mile school run and thereâs enough charge in the battery to get me there and back and the petrol engine never kicks in therefore it shows up as 99.9mpg but is essentially an all electric journey, but then the same journey the next day the engine has had to come on and Iâve got 17mpg, which to me isnât very pleasant at all, but if averaged out over time might settle at the quoted 40-50mpg people are getting.
(this is while using the e-pedal feature which is meant to regenerate more to the battery)
you are right l have tried âevery which wayâ but currently it does not work on the epower -shame, another great selling point!
Disappointing! A great feature (especially for defrosting)
I’m sure it’s to do with the fact it’s go an engine.
you are right l have tried âevery which wayâ but currently it does not work on the epower -shame, another great selling point!
Disappointing! A great feature (especially for defrosting)
Iâm sure itâs to do with the fact itâs go an engine.
Has nothing to do with that, our Golf GTE does have remote heating/air conditioning (and an engine).
however, the e power  ,to all intents and purposes, is anâ electric carâ , driven by an electric motor powered by a battery  -in reality ,it is only the way that the battery is charged that is different? it might therefore  just be a âsoftwareâ upgrade some time in the ( not too distant ) future  and perhaps some extra kit on the heater?
While true that in a vacuum, it’s technically an EV – there’s a key difference to EVs, and even to PHEVs. A difference so big that in reality, purely from an economy standpoint, the ePower cars are closer to a FHEV than EVs or PHEVs.
That key difference is the battery. The QQ ePower has a miniscule battery. An EV battery usually is anywhere between 45kwh in small cars to around 77kwh in bigger ones. PHEVs usually have around 13kwh on average.
To preheat a Tesla, the car consumes 2kwh within 15 minutes.
“When preconditioning first starts, you can see that it consumed my chargers entire 10kW of output power, but only for a couple of minutes, and then it starts ramping down to around 8 – 9kW. Then, after 15 minutes exactly or 2 kWh of energy spent, the motors stop generating heat and the power draw drops to around 800w, which is how much power it takes to continue running the heat pump alone to maintain cabin temps.”
That’s the issue: a QQ ePower has a 2.1kwh battery. Which is barely enough to preheat the car when it’s fully charged.
Preheating/conditioning in the QQ isn’t viable due to the tiny battery (it’s closer to a FHEV than anything in that regard) – and i don’t think that an update fixes that, sadly. FHEVs in general aren’t able to precondition either (which, again, boils down to the battery capacity).
Heating/cooling the interior is pretty power hungry, and without running the engine, there’s basically no way you get enough energy (especially in the cold) out of your battery to actually do it.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.Yeah Iâm not entirely sure Whats happening, I can do a 2/3 mile school run and thereâs enough charge in the battery to get me there and back and the petrol engine never kicks in therefore it shows up as 99.9mpg but is essentially an all electric journey, but then the same journey the next day the engine has had to come on and Iâve got 17mpg, which to me isnât very pleasant at all, but if averaged out over time might settle at the quoted 40-50mpg people are getting. (this is while using the e-pedal feature which is meant to regenerate more to the battery)
If I’m honest I’d be taking back the dealers to have them look over it, if it’s no better by this time next week at the lates’t. It could be down to something as simple.
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If Iâm honest Iâd be taking back the dealers to have them look over it, if itâs no better by this time next week at the latesât. It could be down to something as simple.
Why though?
He’s averaging more than 50mpg over two (short!) drives, i don’t see a problem here. In fact, it’s a pretty decent number for what’s essentially a FHEV with extra steps.
If people would understand that this is more a FHEV than EV or PHEV, it’d help understand what to expect. Real world economy btw is 45mpg according to carwow. And obviously if you start a drive with zero battery left in a car that can’t drive the wheels via ICE (so it runs on full blast/regen/strain to charge faster than you deplete it), you get awful economy. That balances out over the average, as all FHEVs do.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.(KezoIâm sure itâs to do with the fact itâs go an engine). Has nothing to do with that, our Golf GTE does have remote heating/air conditioning (and an engine).
@Rene I think your missing my point on “engine”Your Golf GTE has a resitive electric heater that heat’s the cabin, either from the battery or it’s plugged in charging. It will not start the engine (even if the battery runs down) to preheat the vehicle, unless you start the engine and take the key back in side.
The battery in your GTE is 13Kw, so is capable of running an electric heater in a similar an EV does without a heatpump. The QQ battery is not big enough to preheat without it rnning down or “starting” the engine.
It can be done in other countries but not here in the UK, as itâs not legal due to the security implications of having your car running, insurance etc.
Sorry @Rene I mucked the quoting bit up đ
It can be done in other countries but not here in the UK, as itâs not legal due to the security implications of having your car running, insurance etc.
A thorough shame, remote start is great đ
Starting to think that the government doesn’t like car drivers ?
"Come on BYD Seal!"It can be done in other countries but not here in the UK, as itâs not legal due to the security implications of having your car running, insurance etc.
A thorough shame, remote start is great
Starting to think that the government doesnât like car drivers 
If you have off road parking it maybe allowed if the car is locked but, it’s a grey area – will your insurance company actually pay up..
The Association of British Insurers don’t comment on the use of such technology, as individual insurers will assess each customer and vehicle on a case-by-case basis.
In most cases it will be subscription based and I think the option is there on some high end ICE cars. EV’s and some PHEV’s have it, but it works as above.
(KezoIâm sure itâs to do with the fact itâs go an engine). Has nothing to do with that, our Golf GTE does have remote heating/air conditioning (and an engine).
Rene I think your missing my point on âengineâ Your Golf GTE has a resitive electric heater that heatâs the cabin, either from the battery or itâs plugged in charging. It will not start the engine (even if the battery runs down) to preheat the vehicle, unless you start the engine and take the key back in side. The battery in your GTE is 13Kw, so is capable of running an electric heater in a similar an EV does without a heatpump. The QQ battery is not big enough to preheat without it rnning down or âstartingâ the engine. It can be done in other countries but not here in the UK, as itâs not legal due to the security implications of having your car running, insurance etc.
Sorry Rene I mucked the quoting bit up
The eleventyseven notification mails i got would agree, lol.
And in general, yes, you got that correct – but the reason for not being able to charge is the tiny battery, not the “range extender”. You can take the engine out and still don’t get preheating – but you could install a bigger battery (well you can’t, but for the purpose of my point) and get that conditioning.
As you later clarified, it certainly is legal to have a remote start (it’s not a grey area), you can even retrofit it for many models. The only caveat is, that you’re only allowed to use it away from public highways as defined by the road traffic act. As in, basically, you need private parking. If you get caught using it on public roads, it’ll result in a non-endorsable offence, carries a fine but no points.
High spec Volvos, as a sidenote, come with remote start from factory (XC90s etc).
https://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/896/cars-with-remote-start
“Those who have access to private, off-street parking are legally able to use an app to remotely start a carâs engine and leave it running without being present.
However, the Department for Transport told BuyaCar that on the public road, use of such apps âwould only be lawful where the driver was in close attendance and could take control of the vehicle if needed.â Itâs an example of technology appearing to outpace lawmakers.”
So technically, nothing would speak against that – but remote starts are, again technically, not the same as the preconditioning that people originally were talking about. People were pointing out the EV part, which again boils down to having the very small battery. I’m blown away by how small it is really, considering the ICE can’t run the wheels directly. I’ve got two remote controlled cars, both run on 304wh (9Ah at 33.6V) batteries. That’s over 15% of the capacity of the ePower.
That’s why i’m saying that people should get away from the idea that it’s related to EVs – while technically correct (due to no power from the ICE going to the wheels), in reality it’s basically a FHEV that can’t drive the wheels via ICE. With the same drawbacks (comparatively average economy compared to PHEV/EVs, and of course none of the fancy stuff like pre-conditioning etc, be it cabin or battery).
edit: as an aside, i’m not bashing the QQ. It’s good at what it does, but pretending it’s something that it isn’t only leads to disappointment. This system is better (in terms of economy) than a “normal” FHEV system, but in the end, it’s just that.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.In most cases it will be subscription based and I think the option is there on some high end ICE cars. EVâs and some PHEVâs have it, but it works as above.
Sorry, can’t edit anymore.
I’ve just seen, didn’t you have a Sportage HEV too? The new models (my23 i think) all have remote start, too. There’s another thread in this forum (Sportage HEV winter tip) explaining how it works, so this isn’t my imagination.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.
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