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- August 8, 2021 at 3:57 pm#160973
ajnIf you weren’t on the scheme being helped with expense, would you be driving, buying the car you travel in now..
Would you be in a position to buy, and set up everything needed to use an electric car as your transport..
I can say I wouldn’t be interested at all of the expense on these cars at all..
How are people going to afford these electric goodies and all that come with it..
Its easy for us having help I guess, what happens when the help isn’t there…?..
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- August 9, 2021 at 1:00 am #161048
SueCould I afford a brand new car? No
Would I have an electric one (either on the scheme or outside of it)? Also no.
Why? I can’t charge the begger!
And that is an issue that a lot of people face. Yes, I wouldn’t mind one to cut down on fuel costs but right now and for the foreseeable, they are just not workable for a lot as the infrastructure is not there and won’t be for some years to come.
August 9, 2021 at 2:58 am #161050
ajnSome great points there Sue, I guess they will have to come up with something or simply it won’t work for many..
August 9, 2021 at 4:51 pm #161136
ajnSo anyone got a family member with a zapper on motability…
If so do they almost reverse it down your neck, how much they’re saving the world and you should be bowing down them every day at how amazing they’ve become over couple of days, weeks, hours even of using it..
Maybe don’t answer if it’s going to cause you an upset..
August 9, 2021 at 5:31 pm #161147Hi ajn, what’s a zapper, is it one of those things for changing the TV channel. ?
August 9, 2021 at 5:39 pm #161149I nearly splattered my coke and ice over the screen @ChrisK
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Previous car:Peugeot 308 GT Premium 1.2 Pure tech Petrol.August 9, 2021 at 5:47 pm #161150
ajnOh my mistake, it’s the charging station area location known as a zap map I think, I should be calling it an electric car..0
August 9, 2021 at 9:32 pm #161164I do hear these electric cars are quite the coming thing, ajn. I must find out more about them…
August 9, 2021 at 9:54 pm #161165
ajnWell I’m not one to accept what’s just said at me, I prefer to just relax into things and step back, plenty of time yet..
August 9, 2021 at 10:07 pm #161166Yes. You’re right, there’s no rush. Probably just a flash in the pan.
August 9, 2021 at 10:33 pm #161173ajn and wigwam sitting in a tree ??
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.August 9, 2021 at 11:28 pm #161176
ajnTime will tell, as mentioned there’s plenty of time..
Obviously electric cars work because they are already doing it…
Hopefully everything goes to plan and the world thrives…
Long way to go..
It’s amusing watching some people almost lose control of manners though..?
August 10, 2021 at 10:35 am #161204
Mark HollandOne of the reasons we are moving to EV is as follows and may explain why people will move later once the vehicles reach the used car market.
we have a weekly fuel budget of £30 and we live rurally so need a minimum of 150 miles per week for shopping doctors hospitals etc so this equates to approx 6500 miles per year leaving no mileage for leisure or pleasure. The cost is around £1500 per year, with the EV charged at home for 28 kWh per night at 5 p per kWh it’s £1.40 giving around 65 miles per day that would be around 24000 miles a year for 1/3 rd cost now we would be highly unlikely to do this but if we did even do this sort of mileage we could save £20 per week from our meagre fuel allowance and put it over 5 years toward our next AP that would be £5000 or put another way if we had the credit toward a used PCP so I really think whilst savings can be had there is a way to benefit from this next phase of motoring
August 10, 2021 at 11:30 am #161209
ajnThanks for the detailed explanationM H, obviously it should be great for you at the moment..
Another success now for the rest of the World..
August 10, 2021 at 11:47 am #161214Mark what you are doing makes complete sense, good luck over the next five years.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.August 10, 2021 at 11:54 am #161215
ajnIf you weren’t on the scheme being helped with expense, would you be driving, buying the car you travel in now..
Would you be in a position to buy, and set up everything needed to use an electric car as your transport..
I can say I wouldn’t be interested at all of the expense on these cars at all..
How are people going to afford these electric goodies and all that come with it..
Its easy for us having help I guess, what happens when the help isn’t there…?…
Just to recap
August 10, 2021 at 11:58 am #161216I wonder just how long the cheap motoring is going to last for EV’s as more change to electric the closer we will get to some sort of duty paid by the mile.
No matter how much any government wants to encourage folk into EV’s they can’t let the gravy train of motoring taxation go by the way and bare in mind we all have to change at sometime or other.
Of the top of my head I reckon about 10p per mile will be a starter but of course there will be some sort of incentive to go electric for at least the next 9 years but that’s more likely to be in reduced purchase taxes than by the mile use as that will remain the main gravy train.
Petrol and diesel will continue to be taxed at the pump until the day they die but a lot of us will miss out on the cheap motoring for EV’s as it stands today.
IMHO.?
August 10, 2021 at 12:07 pm #161218Chris now is the time to go BEV, as you say this “cheap motoring” won’t last for ever. I predict three to five years max and i agree price per mile is the likely route the government will take. The exact timescale for the change is very difficult to predict as it will be down to EV uptake. If the public go all in on EVs it could happen within three years (unlikely) however if the uptake is slow it could be five years or more.
So “if” you can, go EV now, the money you save will offset any additional costs with regards to home chargers and possible high APs.
Its a once in a lifetime opportunity and not to be missed.
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.August 10, 2021 at 12:25 pm #161220Yes, not a problem for me, although I’d probably chose a different car to the one I got on the scheme, something like the Mustang Mach-E or EV6.
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August 10, 2021 at 4:29 pm #161245
Ian PriceIf they do change per mile. I hope this does not apply to the disable. I have to take my disabled son out and do on average of 18.000 miles per year
August 10, 2021 at 4:55 pm #161248If charge per mile comes about, it is likely to replace fuel duty. We all pay that, so it’s unlikely the disabled will be treated differently.
August 10, 2021 at 5:12 pm #161250
Clipped wingsHi all,
been away for a bit due a week in acute lung ward due RSV and subsequent pneumonia. Not just COVID that can get you!
whatever the benefits, I cannot envisage grappling with charging cables on an icy winters night. I would end up in a different ward!
the National Grid is already teetering on the edge even with imported supplies from Europe. Jersey supply was threatened by the delightful macron over a fishing dispute. It would be ironic if you had to buy a diesel backup generator to charge your electric car – anything is possible with a grandstanding buffoon at the helm.
by 2030, all the current bev Phev cars will be facing a new battery, 8-£10000 Cannot be recycled, nor can the composite 100m blades from wind turbines – buried in the desert in California
without alternative battery tech, the existing strained supplies of cobalt, lithium and neodymium for motors cannot possibly meet future demand
apart from that, what could possibly go wrong with project net zero – exploding hydrogen mains perhaps!
next post will be less cynical
August 10, 2021 at 5:53 pm #161256Nothing wrong with cynical, Clipped Wings, although there are a few evangelical people here who can’t help taking exception to dissenting voices…
August 10, 2021 at 6:02 pm #161257
ajnWelcome back Clipped wings..
Hope you’ve recovered now, must have been a nightmare at the time..
August 10, 2021 at 6:16 pm #161260I’m not aware of these evangelists of which you talk, I see some early to mid converts to electric cars that are pleased with their decision and are happy to talk about it. I am at a complete loss to see why anyone would be pro internal combustion engine in relation to the Scheme. I could almost see an argument if we were able to get 6, 8 or 12 cylinder beasts on the Scheme or even a hot 4 cylinder car but we are not, but to argue the merits of a 4 cylinder 2.0 litre with tops 190bhp that does 35mpg over some of the electric cars available on the Scheme, I just don’t see it.
August 10, 2021 at 6:34 pm #161261I think that’s where the problem lies wmc. The fact you don’t see it. I am not in either school. We have just got a PHEV, but I have no desire to challenge anyone elses thinking when it comes to choosing a car that suits them, nor would I judge their decision.
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