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just spent a while searching for hbrid vehicles to find a whole bunch classed as petrol by the search tool.
went on chat to point it out and hopefully get it fixed only to be told its the manufacturers that fill in the details not motability and he then pointed out that i had complained similarly in 2022 and been told the same so what did i expect from the chat today?
so they obviously hold a grudge when you complain and dont care that their search tool is a crock.
the following petrol models are actually hybrids by the way:
3008 1.2 hybrid 136 gt dr e-dsc clue is in the title.
fiat 600 1.2 hybrid 48v dr dct-6 again cle in the title
mokka 1.2 turbo hybrid 136 ultimate also gs.
grandland 1.2 hybrid 136 ultimate, gs and design.
puma all hybrid x 5
avenger 1.2e hybrid summit
5008 1.2 hybrid 136 gt.
tuscon all 5 versions.
i reckon theres prob more but these actually have hybrid in the title. i think the volvo xc40 ma be hybrid too.
whats the ceo’s email cos i consider the chat was downright rude and condescending
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Just a guess, but most cars have some form of mild hybrid setup these days, whereas people looking for proper hybrids are looking for self charging ones or PHEVs. Mild hybrid doesn’t make the car a hybrid in the sense that we know it.
Yep, Glos Guy is correct. All the cars you list are mild hybrids and therefore have no ability to run solely on electric power alone, even for half a mile.
The 48v label on the Fiat 600 gives it away. Mild hybrids have a beefier battery to aid stop/start and a smoother take off from stationary.
They have no real effect on overall economy but are probably a little easier on fuel on urban journeys than a full petrol equivalent.
About as much use as a chocolate teapot actually. I think the search engine is probably correct.
The clue is not in the title I’m afraid.
You need to be looking for “full hybrid” or “self charging hybrid”
2024 - BMW i4 Grand Coupe eDrive 35 Sport
2020 - Volvo XC40 T4 Inscription
2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronicomg thats crazy the way its going your going to need a degree in mechanical engineering to pick a car.
how many versions of a hybrid are there?
as you can see i know nowt but if i see its called a hybrid i assume its a hybrid petrol plus electric surely they should make this clear?
It is misleading @mitch As @72dudes says, mild hybrids don’t really add anything meaningful and they aren’t what most people would associate a hybrid vehicle to be.
There are 3 main types of hybrid. Mild hybrid (the majority of new ICE cars have this and it’s best to just look upon these cars as normal ICE cars), self-charging hybrid (which allow a bit of EV driving, but the battery is charged by the petrol engine as you drive) and plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) which allow a greater amount of EV driving (most are in the 20-40 mile range) and are charged by plugging them in after each use (mine takes about 6 hours to charge, just to get around 35 miles EV range). All 3 types also run on petrol, so you don’t have the range limitations that you get with a full EV, but a PHEV is only worth having if you can charge at home easily after each use. If you can’t do that, a self charging hybrid is as far as you’d want to go. Hope that helps.
@Glos Guy it does thank you, i thought i had found a wider choice of cars for a while there lol. the pool is very small as i cant get a home charger as i cant get a drive/offroad parking and the road is 20m away so would need a blooming long lead. so that rules out electric and plug ins unless they put in some chargers around here. dobbies have some very pretty ones installed in their car park that would be ideal but they have no juice.
search me why.
so i am restricted to hybrids now as the juke mpg is brill so dont want to go backwards. still a year to go so things may change we live in hope.
Ufortunately, well rather typical of Motability, is they don’t differentiate between petrol mild hybrid and petrol full hybrid under “fuel type” criteria. Fortunately Motaclarity allows you to define fuel type more accurately.
There are several worthy full hybrids to choose, that you haven’t mentioned mitch, such as the Renault Captur & Symbioz, Toyota Yaris, the much improved MG3 & ZS hybrids and even the Juke, that are easily within your budget. Bigger and more expensive but, taking into account the NVP, include the Volvo XC40, Peugeot 300GT, Honda HRV, Qashqai E-Power and Hyundai Kona. The Tucson maybe a little to big for your needs and would likely be a lower specced one with your budget. Anyway the above link shows you all the full hybrids available now.
It may be the case you see a car you really like but, out of budget yet there’s a petrol version within your range that would work out just as cheap to run over 3yrs. Not all hybrids are cheap to run, the xc40 is one example of that.
thanks @kezo the smybioz looks like a contender as does the yaris cross but the captur i ruled out last time.
its all to do with the door/windscreen shape/rake. and due to the way i get in to avoid pain. the chr i would love for its looks but its impossible to exit/get in without cracking my head. if prices stay where the are i may go for another juke but the tekna or a quashqai although its a bit bigger than i need. but i suppose if i need a chair in the future the way its going maybe i ought to upsize a bit.
ive managed to get some extra work and i get the oap next september so may be able to up the budget although that goes against the grain as i dont see the point of paying a huge ap for just 3 years use.
the mg’s i think i have a block about i used to have a 2 seater mg when it was mg the volvo i ruled out as the fuel economy is crap and the current juke halved my fuel bill. so i dont want to regress.
i like the look of the 3008 but i seem to remember issues with the ice version and the steering wheel when i tried it last time, lack of adjustment too low or something.
there are a few i need to do the sit test and see if i can get in/out fortunately its quick and i can rule something out in under 5 minutes. the inster, elroq although much less attractive now theyve taken the packs off. electric will come in to the equation if dobbies ever power up their chargers that have been sat like ornaments for almost a year.
Dobbies have being going through financial troubles and the company is continuing restructuring the business, so don’t hld your breath!
Many models have seen revamps or facelifs since you have had the Juke, so it might be worth revisting some of them or looking on line.
Both the Suzuki Vitara & S Cross would be perfect but not at the rediculous AP’s they have,
Remember, in most cases the bigger you go the lower spec you get for the same money!
from the pictures the symbioz looks good in black and the shape seems to suit.
i will definately try that one for size when the weather warms up.
i will revisit the kona as i think that has grown a little since i last checked and i havent read of many glitches.
as a brand nissan seem to have more options than most the juke,quashqai and even the x-trail the nconnecta e-power may just about be affordable i like the cabin although its a bit on the large side.
Personally, I would make sure the car fitted your needs (& desires) and not worry too much about how it is powered.
Check out ZapMap for information on charging places in case you go down the PHEV route.
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Personally, I would make sure the car fitted your needs (& desires) and not worry too much about how it is powered. Check out ZapMap for information on charging places in case you go down the PHEV route.
Getting a PHEV but relying on public chargers would be utterly pointless IMHO. I believe that PHEVs charge at a slower rate than EVs, but either way the range you get is minimal and the cost of using public chargers would probably make those limited EV miles more costly than just doing those miles on the petrol engine! As @mitch cannot charge at home, I maintain that a self charging hybrid is as far as he’d want to go.
oh no first and foremost it has to fit and be comfortable. my issue is getting in/out with as little pain as possible and comfortable when driving. that usually means some sort of suv/crossover. the door shape and window rake seems to be the issue. the juke and mini countryman were the 2 best in may 23. but the countryman ap was way out of reach.
the old kona, captur and toyota chr the entry just didnt work.
then it comes down to running costs the juke hybrid has halved what i spent on fuel in the countryman i had bbefore it but the countryman was more comfortable on longer drives.
still a year to go and the same 2 are on top at the moment, the juke has the benefit that the tekna is now available and the countryman has reduced its ap.
i think the kona has grown slightly with its recent facelift so its hybrid will be in with a shout.
then it will be a case of new entries that may work. at the moment it will be petrol or hybrid.
electric will only come into it if someone builds a bunch of chargers nearby.
@mitch At the risk of repeating myself, even if someone ‘builds a bunch of chargers’ nearby, if you have to rely solely on public charging, even a full EV will likely cost you far more to run than your current self charging hybrid car. EVs and PHEVs will only save you money if you can charge at home at domestic rates. Public chargers can work out far more costly than doing the same miles on petrol, so you would have all the hassle and wasted time of charging and be paying more than you are now for the privilege!
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