EV and PHEV electric heaters

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  • #126030
    Oscarmax
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      The weather is getting colder know unfortunately we have now had to switch on the cars electric heater, wow what a drop in range.

      Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

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    • #126033
      Rhodgie
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        Hopefully this shows my name in blue ? cause it’s really me ?

        Secondly, yeah it’s a big drop in range at first but it’ll level out if you are doing a long journey but lots of little short journeys are a killer…. the car is working hard to heat the cabin up but then cools down at every stop so it’s got yo heat it up all over again.  On a long journey once the cabin is warmed up it’ll keep the heat ?

        #126036
        Carl

          I’m interested in the real world range that you are losing by putting on the heaters.   We have a long winter and it’s never really discussed much on EV blogs.  So imnresly interested to find out.

          #126050
          Oscarmax
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            Our Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV we normally achieve 33-34miles on a full, in the morning it was estimating 33 miles range, switched the heater on and it dropped to 28 miles immediately, I realise the range meter is an estimate but it is a start, however, when I use B5 regeneration I usual ended up with the estimated figure.

            This morning I switched the heater on 22 degrees, immediately lost 5 miles, I at some point I had to switch to Charge Mode to enable the engine to top up the batteries on the move. This time I used 1.7 litres of fuel, car recording just over 90 mpg and a used a full charge of electric (£0.50 off peak for a full 10kWh charge ), normally this journey cost me a £0.50 electric charge, today the same journey required £1.85 of petrol in addition to the £0.50 electric total cost £2.35, however it is still cheaper than my old Motability ford Kuga diesel £4.76 for the same journey, I am better off by £2.41 but I still feel the pain

             

            Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

            #126083
            gothitjulie
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              The drop in range will depend on how efficient your heater is & how cold it is outside.

              Some of the EVs have resistance heaters and they can use quite a lot of juice.

              Some of the EVs have a heat pump and they use relatively little juice.

              BMW i3 – resistance heater (heat pump is an optional extra)

              PSA EVs – heat pump

              Kia/Hyundai – heat pump in the UK market

              The largest drop in range is from the lithium batteries being cold.

              #126109
              Oscarmax
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                The drop in range will depend on how efficient your heater is & how cold it is outside. Some of the EVs have resistance heaters and they can use quite a lot of juice. Some of the EVs have a heat pump and they use relatively little juice. BMW i3 – resistance heater (heat pump is an optional extra) PSA EVs – heat pump Kia/Hyundai – heat pump in the UK market The largest drop in range is from the lithium batteries being cold.

                Not sure which one our Outlander PHEV is, in addition to the electric heater apparently when the engine is running it has a 4 way valve which provide heating.

                Today we went out weather wet outside temperature 12 C heater set 22 c, aircon off travelled 19 miles with 3 miles left at the end of the journey so 22 miles on pure electric, that quite a big drop from 32/33 with the heating off.

                I am going to study the manual and pre heat the PHEV from the mains using the APP

                Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.

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