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  • #297854
    MFillingham
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      It’s a little binary in the questions which leaves a few cases of yes or no where much further research is very necessary.

      Public charging isn’t an automatic ‘no’ but there’s more to the decision than is there chargers nearby.

      You’ll also need to take into account if there’s something else you could be doing whilst the car charges or whether the car can stay until fully charged.  There’s no point relying on a Tesco 3.7kWh charger if you get an £80 charge every time you stay until fully charged.  Likewise, do you need to pay for a MacDonalds (Instavolt) expensive rapid just because it’s the nearest option available?

      Similarly, with long journeys, there’s one thing having chargers on the map for your route but which chargers are they?  How fast? How much?  How many?  If you’re going to visit family for Christmas but are travelling at the same time as half the country? The one charger on your route could well mean waiting for hours as there’s no sensible alternative within your remaining range.

      When planning these things, Motability haven’t accounted for the lesser intelligent disabled person who could well make the final decision.  We aren’t all eloquent, well rounded researchers who know all they need to know to make a well informed decision.  Some just look for the pretty colour and quickly available and ‘the website said it’d be ok’.

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      Mark

      #297855
      MFillingham
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        And I’m all for EV ownership…

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        Mark

        #297856
        mitch
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          i think theyve put this up to cover their arses due to the number of people returning evs as unsuitable after a couple of months. now the will be able to say well did you do the checker on the website, no oh well its your own  fault then tough.

          but of course they wouldnt do that lol.

          i did it and it agreed with me that an ev wont work here.

          #297859
          kezo
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            As Mark say’s, it’s all very binary and random, whith no explanation of  costs to charge from home vs public charging, which can be night and day. Mota could easily give an example by using one of their office postcodes but, they won’t

            Its not just Mota, dealers are just as bad, if not worse. This is where Mota should be training dealerships to check suitability of lease, rather than putting EV sales targets at the forefront.

             

            #297860
            MFillingham
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              Motability have little influence over dealerships outside of the training they do for accreditation.

              However, many dealerships were poor to abysmal for information on EVs, I remember times where I was clearly the most informed person in the building.  That’s been improving recently with dealerships and manufacturers realising that they need to up their game to get close to the numbers they need to sell to meet targets.

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              #297872
              Ele
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                According to data from the Department of Transport, the average UK driver travels between 5,000 and 8,000 miles per year, meaning a significant portion of UK drivers fall within this “average” mileage range; with recent reports showing that most vehicles in the UK drive less than 100 miles per week, indicating a large number of drivers driving close to the average mileage.

                Most things are designed around Mr average

                And when Mr average takes a longer journey ( possibly once/twice a year then Zap maps for example and phone and in built car apps can show available en route charging point and services

                Google is your friend when it comes to planning a longer journey

                Top tip if not home charging (less cost) or at all concerned consider getting a Hybrid/ICE/Diesel instead

                 

                #297932
                Matty M
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                  Spend some time on A Better Route Planner, put in some long journeys that you may make and see what charging stops it suggests.

                  It will suggest the public Tesla chargers, which are by far the cheapest, and will automatically exclude the Tesla-exclusive chargers.

                  If you can charge at home, an EV makes sense. If not, I would suggest a hybrid.

                  #297946
                  MFillingham
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                    If you can’t charge at home, you are not excluded from having an EV.  You do need to be smart about it though.  To save money you need cheaper chargers, they’re typically slower so you’ll need to be able to leave the car there for hours on end.  That means both being able to charge fully without incurring overstay penalties and getting away from the car for as long as it takes.  Thus if you can park near work and charge, great, if you can charge overnight then great.

                    If neither, then you need to have a cheap rapid close and be willing to be there for up to an hour.  Ideally, that’d be near somewhere you need to go, shops or hospital for example so you can still plug in and do something else while charging.

                     

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                    #297947
                    kezo
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                      Those that have off street parking, Motability will install a free charger, which to them has a value of £750.

                      Those not lucky enough to have off street parking get a subscription payed charge card, which has a value of £8 a month or £300 (rounded) over the lease.

                      That seems a tad unfair to me. Now if Motability loaded that charge card with £450, it would go a long way in helping those through no fault of their own, with EV ownership over 3 years. It could even open the gates to those who otherwise wouldn’t choose an EV because of their parking situation.

                      #298106
                      MFillingham
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                        Those that have off street parking, Motability will install a free charger, which to them has a value of £750. Those not lucky enough to have off street parking get a subscription payed charge card, which has a value of £8 a month or £300 (rounded) over the lease. That seems a tad unfair to me. Now if Motability loaded that charge card with £450, it would go a long way in helping those through no fault of their own, with EV ownership over 3 years. It could even open the gates to those who otherwise wouldn’t choose an EV because of their parking situation.

                         

                        There is still grant funding available for charger installation so, I believe, that’s £500 off.  That also covers Motability’s reasoning behind getting one charger even if you move and have several BEVs and not finding one for PHEVs.

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