@MFillingham, that is it exactly, i am so used to reps not wanting to do anything until the window opens i was a little suprised. as you say what if it arrives early? i will query that when i speak to him next. i am going to wait until mg give me an answer regarding their discounts for pip etc to see what they come up with for wpms and the citroen guy also seemed keen to do a deal so purley out of curiosity i will wait for that.
just pleased theres a clear winner.