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No towing and with only 1 person in the driving seat. Even the salesman thought i was “embellishing” the numbers i was telling him (without saying so). Last Thursday evening (1 day after picking the car up) i went out at 00:20am so that i had some clear roads with no traffic or hold ups whatsoever and i recorded a video. The weather was bang on 0 degrees and i achieved 1 mile per 1 percent of charge. No heated seats and the temp was set at a modest 19c for the interior. This has been purely town driving and the fastest the car has been was 40 in a 40 zone. After doing the video myself i done a bit of youtubing and it appears that others are seeing the same numbers as i am. It appears that town or motorway driving makes zero difference. On this video from 07:06 , the guy states he has 24% charge which allows 39 kilometers of range. Which works out to around 25 miles. Pretty much identical to what im getting with town driving. Plus i never had the heated seats on and my temp was a bit lower than his. Kinda wish i had done a youtube drive through before committing to the lease.
I think a lot of people make the switch to an EV for the cost saving. Yes that’s an entirely acceptable reason for some people, but for others its going to be different reasons. Some people will also say that using the heating at winter will use more of the charge for heating the vehicle which is true, but in summer it will also use probably just as much to run air conditioning and to also cool the battery down. Heating on an ICE car is passive and the heat generated by the engine is used to heat the interior of the car, but A/C on will also affect MPG on an ICE vehicle. When it comes to the “Range” displayed on your dashboard with an EV , this from what i can see and have experienced is purely “Hypothetical” and also “Misleading” , which may fool a lot of people into believing they are getting more than what they actually are and could leave them stranded if they don’t check their dashboard regularly. I done my test with a video with a camera strapped to my chest showing that sometimes im getting less than 1 mile per 1% of charge , ranging to around 1.3 miles. Ignore the KW/m readings or the 257 miles range showing on a full charge on your dashboard. Go in your car , drive and see how long you get for each percent and multiply that by 90. We could calculate it for 100%(X100) but we really need to use that last 10% to be able to run the car alarm and be able to open the doors and turn on the vehicle etc. Or if you charge to 80% like they recommend for daily driving, you can multiply that by 70. The numbers won’t be as good as the claimed mileage , or the range shown on your dashboard i can guarantee. Regen braking on this model of car cannot be turned off 100%. It has both a “D” & “B” switch which one person in the garage described as “D” being zero regen braking and just like an ICE car. Where as “B” is the regen modes and could be adjusted by level. Then after having the car for 2 days and returning to the Showroom (complaining of the range) i was told by 2 other people (Staff) that there is always a mild regen applied regardless of the drive mode selected. Preconditioning the cabin and the battery during my testing makes very little difference. Bearing in mind that the majority of people will be driving when it’s daylight and E/V rates don’t apply to you. You are now preconditioning the interior and battery heating at nearly 4X your cheap rate during the night before departing to Tesco for some milk and digestives. Cost savings was never my deciding factor to opt for an EV, which im glad of as i don’t think there will be any savings to be had. It was convenience for my partner that made her opt for an EV. We have quickly learned that having one of these takes a lot of adjustment and extra steps/worry that an ICE vehicle does not. Queuing for 10 mins at the petrol station for £60 of petrol now looks like the better idea. We now have loads of other things to do before departing for a journey. Then also waiting for a charging point to be free at the petrol station/supermarket or wherever, or its broken/out of service. It’s all things that might be acceptable to others, but when you have a serious underlying medical condition then it becomes a far different story.
Ioniq you might need it and you, me, us need to know what we can expect because someday you may get that dreaded phone call and need to get somewhere asap. In my case it’s only a 40 mile trip, but if that family member was further away then I need to know what I can get in miles. I have a magic number of 220. That’s how much miles I would need if I get referred to a certain cardiac hospital which will probably happen. So that’s a minimum for me. It’s one of the reasons why I’ve tested the 3 EVs I’ve had from 100% to 1%. Ice is the same but it does take about 6 minutes to fill an ice car whereas an EV you might need a minimum of 30 minutes to get a quick boost.
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Sadly the hospital that my partner whom the car is used by 95% of the time has to attend is 144miles on empty roads and using roads that have had continual roadworks for the past 30 years + 30 years in the future (A9 Scotland). 120 Miles does not cut the mustard , nor does it come anywhere close to the quoted mileage by the manufacturer. 24 hour test drives are still not an option at any dealer i have been to locally from any manufacturer. Ford seems to allow this , but you have to arrange it online and it can take months to have this arranged to happen, as dealers up here in Scotland don’t have a permanent trial vehicle. It’s shared between various dealerships and they each get a certain amount of time to hold onto the car and hand it out once they get their shot. While getting such low mileage from a car might not be such a problem for some people. I think for a lot of people on the scheme the matter of avoiding a petrol station is very much a draw to an EV. My partner has progressive MS and getting in and out of a car is hard enough , never mind the outlook of potentially having to stop 3 times on a journey and waiting around 25 mins for a quick charge on each occasion. Motability still shows the (UP TO) range quoted for these particular cars , which is a very loose term. It’s really down to my partner if she wishes to keep the vehicle as i do know that Motability may be able to cancel the lease as her car is not really suitable. I posted here to alert others to what REAL world mileage you can expect from this particular model. Having owned a diesel and petrol BMW previously , i was more than happy to fill the tank up and get over 500+ miles real world range on them. With an EV you don’t have the option to do this. You get out whatever 100% of the battery holds during each season , regardless of it being hot or cold. Even being over 25c is bad territory for EV batteries , never mind it being cold. From what i see 10c-25c is the goldilocks temperatures you need to be praying for when you wake up. Even in these temps i still don’t believe they will ever achieve their quoted mileage.
Screenshot is from a short journey today at 9c
Too many things are based on guesses and estimates and not fact. Still to early to make the jump to an EV for the masses as the infrastructure can’t even cope with the little that are on the roads just now.
Bmw iX1 x-line 30 . Getting between 1 + 1.2 mile per percent of charge. So looking at around 110 – 120 miles on a full charge (100%). Kinda useless when the car is needed to travel to a hospital 144 miles away , going to need charged twice on a round trip of 288 miles. So much for making travel easier for disabled people. Why are they leading people down a path of getting an EV when they have not even tested these vehicles in real world conditions. The car itself is great , but was bought to save queueing at petrol stations and for convenience of a disabled person. Seems like it’s going to be the opposite and a total inconvenience and adding some range anxiety into the mix. No wonder EV sales are slumping and the second hand values are abysmal.
imo The likes of BMW are in for a chinese wake up call And when that happens the unrealistic APs will tumble
Ironically BMW sell their cars in china at prices 50% off what they charge customers in the west, and still manage to make money from doing so.
BMW will ask for the money because of the badge. I was considering the M3 estate because of my assistance dog and the fact it was a great car to drive, especially compared to other estates on scheme. Yet even the dealer was saying it was too pricey (£7999) to make it practical. Glad they took it off the scheme though as it was tempting.[/quote]
At one time the BMW badge was worth paying for, cant say the same nowadays. There is not as much of a divide between manufacturers nowadays as what there used to be. £3500 AP would get you a Skoda Superb Estate right now , which is a more acceptable number than £7999. Plus its probably just as much car as the BMW is.
However, as the iX1 is electric and the motor industry needs to shift those, BMW may reduce the AP somewhat to get them out of the door. Not by much though.
I test drove an i4 around a year ago and the AP they wanted for that was £4999. Now sitting at £6249 AP for an iX1 with so-so range and below par charge rate/tech. Seems a very unrealistic ask from potential customers now.
£995 AP for a Scenic e-tech , seems to be where my money is heading 🙂
