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I recently left the scheme, got a good deal to good to turn down and it was less than a month before i got the new car. So I had to pay for a years roadtax. Did get a refund in the end of 10 months, but dwp messed me about.
We contacted dwp on the 13th of june the 1st day my partner could call them, after we picked the car up on the 10th of june. They said it would be 7 to 10 days and nothing came.
Called them again and they said wait x amount of days it’s been sent out, Still nothing arrived so it went into another months worth of road tax.
After we called them for the 3rd time they sent another out, it came in a couple of days. As dvla charge you still for the whole month. Which imo is a pure scam as then they getting two lost of roadtax when cars exchange hands as it’s per the person not the car.
I had been on the scheme for 11 years so not had to deal with it since they change it.
So if you can I’d do it before giving the car back, depending on the tax class and amount of your current car.
The minimum you’ll have to pay is one or maybe two months roadtax (unless it’s £0 rated) depends when you giving the car back in the month.
When you pick up a new car the dealer can put it on beforhand, or if it’s used you can go straight to the p.o and put it on if you have the certificate. but like i said it depends on your current cars roadtax and the new ones costs as to which way to do it imo. Either way you gonna have to tax one of the cars.
@rox thanks for the input.
I was under the impression I could get the certificate whilst still in my mobility car, as I will complete the handover of the MB car back (29th November), and then use the certificate straight away ( am I right to think once the MB handover is complete there and then , that car no longer has my free tax status?) on the new car , all to be done at the same dealership, on same day, does anyone know if this is possible?
To get the certificate of entitlement is 08001214433 the correct number to ring?
If I have to initially pay for the years road tax and claim back how would I do that please?
This is all something I have never done before, sorrry if it sounds silly.
Many thanksYes, you can apply for a certificate at any time. (you have the correct number)
It only takes a couple of hours for Mota to remove you from the system and free up the tax allocation for your new car, make sure the dealer inputs it onto the system before you leave.
If the car is brand new then the dealer should be able to sort it. (if you have the new cert)
If not then you will have to go to a post office to change the tax class which will trigger a refund of the remaining months. (make sure the clerk doesn’t try to stamp the certificate as this now invalidates it for future use and you would have to call to get another certificate)
Likewise, not sure if you getting a new or used car so I’ll give info for both.
How to apply for free tax for the first time
Applying for the first free tax is different from renewing it every year.For new vehicles, you should take the Certificate of Entitlement to the dealership to claim free tax.
For used vehicles, when you first apply for free tax you must also change the vehicle’s tax
class at a Post Office® branch that deals with vehicle tax. You need to take the following
documents:
• V5C vehicle registration certificate (logbook) or the green new keeper slip and
a filled in ‘Application for a vehicle registration certificate’ (V62)
• Certificate of Entitlement to DLA, PIP, CDP, ADP, AFIP or WPMS (please write the
registration number of the vehicle in the top right hand corner)
• vehicles registered with a NI address need a certificate of insurance or cover note
(downloaded or faxed copies are acceptable, photocopies are not), valid on the
day the tax starts
• an original MOT or GVT certificate (if your vehicle needs one)Thinking about it, you could be right. Maybe if you apply for the certificate beforehand then you can put it on the new car right away, but I am not 100% sure.
Maybe someone else knows about thaton the forum but even if i did try to get it beforehand it probally wouldn’t of came in time from the dwp for me to give it to the dealer.
I know for sure you can only have it on 1 car at any time. Maybe best to check with the dealer. I got my new car 75 miles away. So was not close to just pop in and give document’s either, although he did ask if I had the letter and as i didn’t they had to put a year’s tax on, as it was a new car. I did hand my mb car back to them also.
My brother recently bought an ex mb car and he taxed it at the p.o straight after picking it up, as it was still listed as disabled with dvla. For ages he could not pay the dart charge as it was still listed as exempt and I know also that my new car even though at 1st it had normal tax on it.
As I had taken my private plate off the mb car on retention beforehand and dealer put it on it new one. I could not pay the dart charge either as was saying it’s exempt.
But once you hand back the mb car it’s not down to you and you will get a letter from dvla saying as much.
Dvla will also send you the refund of any full months road tax automatically once you tax as disabled, if you do have pay any. Plus I am sure you get a booklet with the certificate with info on it on how to tax a vehicle but it don’t mention transfering from one to another.
Thanks for everyones input , yes am collecting a new car ( off scheme) from dealership.
My plan is to get the certificate beforehand , and take it with me to ( MB car handback and new car from same dealer) dealership on day of handback of MB car and pick up my own new car.
My thinking is , at this point (MB car handed back) I don’t have the tax exemption on any car.
Then complete handover of new car, with the dealer applying tax exemption to new car .
Does this sound doable?
Many thanks
<p style=”text-align: left;”>@vinalspin what do you mean by “make sure the dealer inputs it onto the system before you leave”</p>
Are you referring to disabled tax exemption for the new car ?Many thanks sorry for all the questions
I’m referring to the dealer checking your scheme car and then inputting the info onto their systems to end the lease and state the condition etc, if they do it straight away then you should be free to use your new certificate but it has been known for dealers to do all the checks but leave it until later to actually put it on the system.
“make sure the clerk doesn’t try to stamp the certificate as this now invalidates it for future use and you would have to call to get another certificate”
Out of interest why does stamping the certificate invalidate it for the future? Many thanks
I mention this when I did mine but the p.o master said it needed to be stamped and that you can re-tax it every year, but if you need to swap it to another vehicle then you will need another certificate.
I don’t plan to change the car for quite a while. So it’s not really an issue.
How long since you used it vinalspin to put onto another car as protcol may have changed.
January this year.
I spoke to a manager when requesting my certificate and he was very clear about not having the P.O. stamp the new certificate.
He did explain it in detail but unfortunately my cardiac hypoxia decided that bit of info wasn’t worth remembering.
I got my 1st cert in Sept 21 when I left the scheme and then in Jan when I changed car again.
I guess if the Dvla for instance insist that the P.O Stamp the certificates, that overrides what those that issue the certificate say or suggest even if they are a manager.
As I said I mentioned not stamping it and it was then a question of do you or don’t you want to tax it and change the class to disabled as to do so they need to stamp the certificate and she explained that it’s to stop someone taxing another car with the same certificate. If you change cars you’ll need to get a new certificate to tax it. If your renewing the tax on the same car then you can use the same certificate. Which doe’s seems to me logical and once you’ve changed the class over at the P.O then you can renew the tax online.
If it had been one of the other P.O staff I would of maybe asked for a second opinion but she is the main person at the P.O, My local P.O and she knows her stuff any queries go to her.
So mein got stamped as they would not process the change of tax without doing so.
As I said was my local P.O And they know me there also. Definitely wasn’t going to make a huge scene over it, although I have done so in the past, when one of the PT staff asked me what I was posting and I refused to say only that it’s not an item on their list of prohibited items. She went and spoke to the lady and came back with a gritted teeth so sorry, thats perfectly ok.
So maybe it depends on the person / P.O you goto to as whether they stamp or not or know really what they doing or not. I am not saying you wrong vinal just that’s what happen when I went to tax it in july.
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