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- December 8, 2023 at 9:01 pm#251181
Good evening, can anyone tell me how long before your pip runs out do they send you the papers to start renewal proceedings and can you get it for longer that 3 years if your condition isn’t going to improve but is getting worse.
any help is very much appreciated.
marie
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- December 9, 2023 at 6:17 am #251184
I’d consider going to Citizens Advice, they may well help with the form filling.
I have the benefit, whatever it is called, for life. Can’t help with when the forms are sent out sorry.
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December 9, 2023 at 7:58 am #251186Marie, it is the DWP who decide the term length of the PIP. They send forms out automatically, so don’t worry about when they will do that.
For expert guidence would go to – https://benefitsandwork.co.uk for filling out the forms. They will be a great help. Am myself on a ’10yr soft review’ as they called it as my Osteoarthritis will only deteriate more over time.
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2005 - 2017 Honda CRV Exec 2.0dDecember 9, 2023 at 1:34 pm #251212Unfortunately there’s no longer any “Lifetime” award, those were phased out some years ago. Most were put onto an “ongoing award” with a soft renewal at 10 years or a fixed 10 year award. I’m currently in year 4 of an ongoing award and my Autistic son is in year 3 of a 10 year award.
There’s nobody near enough to the end of those awards yet to know what will actually happen at renewal.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
December 9, 2023 at 3:26 pm #251218Unfortunately there’s no longer any “Lifetime” award, those were phased out some years ago. Most were put onto an “ongoing award” with a soft renewal at 10 years or a fixed 10 year award. I’m currently in year 4 of an ongoing award and my Autistic son is in year 3 of a 10 year award. There’s nobody near enough to the end of those awards yet to know what will actually happen at renewal.
I hadn’t fully appreciated that, thanks for the heads up. I have dug around for ADP and it seems Scotland will review every 8 years. I wonder what they hope to find?!
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December 10, 2023 at 11:34 am #251235I originally had one of the DLA, till you die awards, excuse my wording there, but when I / we had to change to PIP the award was changed to a 3 year one although at that time I’d been disabled for 9 years with no change.
To cut a long story short they reduce my award to standard for mobility so I took the DWP to court and although the judge in my case has no say over how the DWP go about award lengths he reinstated my full mobility award in full and made a note to the DWP that it would be inappropriate to award me a short term so today I have the maximum 10 year award.
Not looking forward to 2027 when I get reviewed no matter how soft the renewal may or may not be as I’ve lost all faith in all governments when it comes to looking after the disabled.
December 10, 2023 at 12:42 pm #251241@ChrisK Everyone I know who’s on PIP or DLA feels exactly the same 🙁
There was a time when you could get a fair assesment, usually from your own GP but for at least the last 15-20 years it’s been a nightmare for a lot of people. I also lost my high rate DLA when moved to PIP, took two years to get a re-assessment and the enhanced mobility re-instated for 3 years. For my last review I added 2 pages detailing all the mistakes and outright lies the assessors had listed in my previous assessments.
I added multiple photos of damage to me from frequently falling and 2 letters from my physio confirming my ongoing mobility problems. This time I got an “ongoing award” (basically 10 years with a light touch review). Still keeping records of anything that happens so when time comes I’ll have more evidence to send in if needed.
It really shouldn’t be like this but I’m afraid that with the new changes they’ve announced it’s only going to get a lot worse.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
December 10, 2023 at 2:02 pm #251249Tvs
my problem is my car runs out in Oct and pip is due for renewal in Nov so just hoping that my renewal comes through in plenty of time .
December 10, 2023 at 2:52 pm #251252You’ll be eligble to choose another car in July (3 months before the end of your lease) Motability are well aware of the amount of backlog and delays PIP are still having and will take that into account so you should be OK to re-order or extend your current lease if it won’t be 5 years in October.
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December 10, 2023 at 3:37 pm #251254Original post
Good evening, can anyone tell me how long before your pip runs out do they send you the papers to start renewal proceedings and can you get it for longer that 3 years if your condition isn’t going to improve but is getting worse.
any help is very much appreciated.
Marie
In Answer and only based on my own experiences whilst having to navigate what was and continues to be a very fluid system of benefit entitlement
I have gone onto expand and explain some additional things that may be of some help to others
Expect to be contacted by the DWP 12 months before an award ends ( official line) in reality this can/has varied depending on the DWPs workload and priorities at any given time
I personally have in the past waited yrs past award end date to have my award reassessed
Award lengths’ can be given longer if the condition and the way it affects you most of the time are more stable/has strong medical support and is deemed to be a lifetime condition as is my case
Even my own ongoing award (usually given for 10yrs ) could be reassessed at anytime the DWP feels it wants to.
My 10 yr award is due for review and I have been told and expect this to be a light touch review
Be aware that
Any reported change of condition can result in the whole of any given award to be looked at again from scratch/afresh ( not just the changes reported)
Be aware that
CAB are funded huge sums by the DWP and imo/experience have found them all but useless,this may vary
Suggest seeking the best one to one individual help possible
Remember its best to hand in a well written and supported award application from the onset as a poorly written/supported application can be hard to distance yourself from at a later date
Any application should be detailed/medically supported because nothing must be left to misinterpretation as to do so will enable the DWP to award on their own interpretation of events which may well differ greatly from your own
Remember keep a detailed diary of all events calls/times/dates/letters/GP/hospital visits also photocopy everything sent to the DWP and only do this using recorded delivery
Term life award explained
In the past, the use of the term “Life Award” proved to be confusing amongst people who
received Disability Living Allowance (DLA) and Attendance Allowance (AA). It was taken by
many to mean that once awarded, benefit could not be taken away. That is, and was never,
the case: in order to receive benefit the conditions of entitlement must be met and continue to
be met. Benefit recipients, therefore, have a responsibility to tell the Department about any
changes that may affect their entitlement and which may lead to their benefits being increased,
reduced or disallowed.This above is based on my own personal experience and is intended as a guideline only and advise everyone to seek their own legal advice
Sorry as this started off as a short reply lol
December 12, 2023 at 9:23 am #251361Well that’s a coincidence had a text message from DWP this morning saying they are now reviewing my pip so that’s solved my query really.
Thank you for helping ?December 12, 2023 at 1:19 pm #251380Hi Nannieree
Can I ask when your end date was/is as wondering how long others may have to wait
December 12, 2023 at 5:04 pm #251424Bugerman 333
my pip isn’t due for renewal until November 2024 but car is 7th oct24
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December 12, 2023 at 5:33 pm #251427Thanks for that info
So they are now pretty much back on time now
As I said above
Expect to be contacted by the DWP 12 months before an award ends
Not too sure how they review now
phone/paper/face to face?
Best wishes
December 13, 2023 at 9:08 am #251465I also had a text this morning from DWP saying our daughters PIP renewal will be processed as soon as they can. The award expires in July 2024, we sent the forms back in September.
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