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good news indeed wigwam
Wow, any explanation why, that’s a very encouraging graph..
Sage prediction versus the reality:
I really don’t know where you dig these websites up from WW. This one promises:
We have the right to medical freedom and to refuse any treatment that has not completed all the required clinical trials including long term studies.
The headline story is:
Over half the deaths seen by this funeral director were likely caused by the COVID vaccines
I wonder what their angle on Vaccine safety might be??
Thanks for posting, I needed a chuckle this morning.
wmcforum, regardless of your view of the information posted, I’m surprised you think that the statement ‘We have the right to medical freedom and to refuse any treatment that has not completed all the required clinical trials including long term studies’ is wrong.
Coronavirus jabs are causing harm – ok, in a very small (statistically) number of cases but the evidence is there. Fortunately we in the UK aren’t being forced to be jabbed. In Australia the people effectively are, by have normal freedoms removed if they aren’t. I believe its a problem when the State puts its perfectly healthy citizens in harm’s way and at risk of heart problems as a result of the jab. Its why central Ottawa has been brought to a standstill by Canadian citizens. Maybe you didn’t know.
really wigwam!!! you think the stuff you post is ok?
a minute number of adverse reactions probably in the 0.00001 % range over all jabs given is a reason not to get a jab really! do me a favour…
There is nothing in pending, nothing has been removed and I did not receive any email notification of a posting, did you?
fine wigwam it is down to individual choice, however that choice should be based on proven facts not over egged nonsense from antivaxers.
normally i am all for free speach but the stuff ive seen posted regarding the vacceines etc that are totally false or misrepresented would make me think twice about that now. if people are proven to be posting false and misleading information then they should be stopped and their posts removed. continued transgressions should be prosecuted.
Mitch, I wish there was universal agreement about every aspect of COVID and governments’ and bigpharmas’ responses to it, but there isn’t. Meanwhile we have opinions. That’s all.
Wigwam, I appreciate that you are sharing both positive and negative info without making a judgment, but I think we need to constantly remind ourselves that there are “opinions”, and then there are “agendas” often masquerading as “facts” on social media. It can sometimes be difficult at first glance to distinguish between the two.
Everyone free to chose is the way toward, but evidence based.
Sad that wmcforum should chuckle and jojoe should joke when shown evidence (not antivax nonsense) that illness and death caused by myocarditis in younger people is being directly caused by the coronavirus jab. Those same people who are at minimal risk from covid. They are indeed small numbers in relation to the millions being jabbed but they mean a lot to those concerned and their loved ones. No joking matter.
Death rates fell below the five-year average during January despite a surge in Covid cases from the Omicron variant, official figures have revealed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/death-records-uk-ons-covid-b2011331.html
Sad that wmcforum should chuckle and jojoe should joke when shown evidence (not antivax nonsense) that illness and death caused by myocarditis in younger people is being directly caused by the coronavirus jab. Those same people who are at minimal risk from covid. They are indeed small numbers in relation to the millions being jabbed but they mean a lot to those concerned and their loved ones. No joking matter.
Virtue signalling, is what you’re doing buddy.
This has been debunked months ago, if not years ago. Here’s an idea. Lets talk about the fact that you’re so concerned about young people catching Myocarditis through the vaccine, but it apparently doesn’t matter that Myocarditis through Covid 19 at a much higher rate isn’t an issue. Including
Its why central Ottawa has been brought to a standstill by Canadian citizens. Maybe you didn’t know.
There’s two options. Either you don’t know what you’re talking about because your information is facebook level at best, or B: you do know what you’re talking about, and you’re being dishonest.
Take your pick. Fact of the matter is:
https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccine-myocarditis-false/
And, undisputable:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0.pdf
There’s a difference between opinions and facts. Nobody cares about your (or my) opinion, nor does anyone need to actually know either. What people need to know is facts. Actual facts, not twisted statistics.
Here’s another one, particular to your claim.
Coronavirus jabs are causing harm – ok, in a very small (statistically) number of cases but the evidence is there. Fortunately we in the UK aren’t being forced to be jabbed. In Australia the people effectively are, by have normal freedoms removed if they aren’t. I believe its a problem when the State puts its perfectly healthy citizens in harm’s way and at risk of heart problems as a result of the jab. Its why central Ottawa has been brought to a standstill by Canadian citizens. Maybe you didn’t know.
What a red herring. Here’s why people aren’t with you. You point out that statistically, the jab increases risk of Myocarditis in children – but leave out that the risk of Myocarditis is even higher through a Covid infection than the jab. Then you say “well i’ve proven that jabs are harmful” (again, by leaving out that Covid is even more harmful), and point at Canada saying “well they don’t want to be harmed by the jab, that’s why they brought Ottawa to the knees”. Leaving out that in Canada, there’s no vaccine mandate for children. So even taking your (false) argument at face value, increased Myocarditis through jabs in children has zero connection to the Ottawa protests.
This is very anti-vax crap comes from, because you take an actual medical study, and twist the result by omitting the comparison, giving an “aura” of scientific value to your opinion. Which, again, is nonsense. It’s like saying “a bullet proof vest causes harm when getting shot, people suffer a broken rib” – omitting the fact that a bullet into the chest is probably considerably worse.
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Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.You seem to be missing the point entirely Rene. I’m not anti-vax. I’m against coercion. I’m against states mandating a medical procedure. I’m against the one-sided argument pushed by governments and mainstream media. In your determination to promote your worldview against mine, you’ve gone to a lot of trouble arguing against things I’ve never claimed. For example I’ve never even mentioned children. I will continue to post things I find interesting, whether you think people are against me or not.. I understand you disagree with me, so please don’t feel obliged to reply.
A relative of mine was a hardcore anti vaxer, always putting conspiracy theories on Facebook. Then he caught Covid and was admitted to intensive care where he almost died, he was actually crying thinking he was going to die. Now, 4 months later, he’s out of hospital but still very ill, his lungs are wrecked, he can barely walk upstairs without being out of breath, it’s going to be years before he fully recovers.
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