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I ordered an EV In June 22 and have had a charger fitted within 4 weeks. I have no Idea if or when I will get my car and since ordering the car there has been a Facelift to the model and it has now come on to the scheme at an increased price. The model I ordered is no longer available. Adding all this together with increased electric prices I was wondering if I could cancel the car and keep my current vehicle in the hope prices become more affordable. And can I get them to remove the charger which I may add looks terrible
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@keyzo As the everage daily mileage ax Acording to SMMT is 24 miles per day the majority if ev users won’t need fast chargers, especially with most having hone chargers for overnight charging. Doing a rare long journey, there are plenty if chargers which will charge whilst you have a break, something to eat etc. Sales reps get their mileage paid for,so fast chargers with there high motorway prices is not an issue. Yes, evs are not going to suit everyone, same way a Feisal or alternative Petrol doesn’t suit. However the attitude you must drive around with 400 miles with a tank if single use fuel,nwhilst you actually do 24 miles us nit logical either.
Hi Roger, I wish I was an average user doing 24 miles per day, if I were I would have tried an EV by now, not because I thing they are green, which I don’t but, for the potential savings charging at home. However I do regular longer journeys ontop of my 3 weekly visits, visiting family. Hence my previous coomment of the lack of decent chargers on routes other than motoways. If there were more availability of 100+kW chargers i’d probably have had one by now. 450 miles on a full tank would in most cases get me there and back on fresh air for the bit of the journey. I hate stopping, which stems from work and if I do its for a pee, having 50kW chargers most the way would mean me stopping for prolonged periods or hopping to different charger along the route, which would drive me nuts lol. Having more 100+kW chargers away from motorways would mean a half hour stop and one charge depending on the EV of course. There is a couple of 150kW chargers on the 3 weekly route I take but, having looked more in depth they are in the wrong place, to what IU would have liked. So 400+ mile capability in a fossil fuel or BEV In my oppinion is very handy. Then range is important in what I would class an emergency.
I was hoping to sell my private car and just make do with a scheme vehicle. Equally I’m 50/50 whether to give the ioniq 5 or 6 ago. What is stopping me every time I say I’m going to order one, is winter range and I won’t have another vehicle to fall back on. Maybe a PHEV may be better for my needs or maybe an EV wil do I don’t know and its doing my head in lol. On average we do about 1200 miles month 15k a year
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I think we are at the very beginning of this fundamental change, nowhere near the end.
It does look like currently, you are in the group which an ev is hard to justify and perhaps another Petrol car would make sense, there are some great suvs and saloons in ICE form on the scheme,
I don’t think a diesel is something anyone should be looking at hnow and my personal feeling about PHEVs is they have too much that can go wrong with two separate power systems and increase in weight over ICE versions, the less MPG when on ice piwer, lus the reports that they are at the top if vehicle fires does not instil confidence.
Crystal ball is out again
Predict in 2yrs time a 500 mile range will be the norm
And 600 miles within 3yrs
Thats when imo things will really take off
When you look back the advances in technology clearly came in lumps. We started with a 24kWh leaf and the Zoe wasn’t any bigger. They’re now 40 and 60kWh vehicles.
On top of that the companies involved in EVs jumped from 2 to most legacy manufacturers plus a sizeable numbers of new companies whose vehicles are all designed ground up as BEVs. Even Teslas technology has been shared to enable others to push forward with battery capabilities and design ideas.
With all this going on there’s a fight now to be the first to launch the next battery technology. Each leap takes years and we keep hearing about companies and universities claiming they’ve a battery capable of x miles and recharging in x seconds. Eventually one will have something in production and at that point the next phase of new cars will be capable of ranges and recharging time currently unimaginable.
However, if we jump to a technology that requires 800v or higher architecture and charger powers higher than even the 350 kWh ones available currently then the thousands currently barely adequate will all need upgrading, often with infrastructure upgrades to support even higher demand. That round of required upgrades will challenge the rollout of new chargers, thus furthering complaints of an inadequate charging infrastructure.
My thoughts are that we aren’t far off a range level that is adequate as long as there’s a suitable charging infrastructure to support them. I know there are companies pushing hard to get that infrastructure up to standard at which point a 400 mile range will be more than enough if the car can gain 209-360 miles in 15-20 minutes. Afterall that’s a wee stop at most service stations. The challenge currently is A roads used as main arterial routes and building charging capacity around them.
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Crystal ball is out again Predict in 2yrs time a 500 mile range will be the norm And 600 miles within 3yrs Thats when imo things will really take off
Well my predictions are to be exceeded
Breakthrough battery powers electric car 1,000 km from single charge
Mass production of Nio’s next-generation battery set to begin in April 2024https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/electric-car-new-battery-nio-et7-b2468230.html
Crystal ball is out again Predict in 2yrs time a 500 mile range will be the norm And 600 miles within 3yrs Thats when imo things will really take off
Well my predictions are to be exceeded Breakthrough battery powers electric car 1,000 km from single charge Mass production of Nio’s next-generation battery set to begin in April 2024 https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/electric-car-new-battery-nio-et7-b2468230.html
That’ll be the 150kW, 360Wh/Kg density semi sold state battery, made by WeLion.
Crystal ball is out again Predict in 2yrs time a 500 mile range will be the norm And 600 miles within 3yrs Thats when imo things will really take off
Well my predictions are to be exceeded Breakthrough battery powers electric car 1,000 km from single charge Mass production of Nio’s next-generation battery set to begin in April 2024 https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/electric-car-new-battery-nio-et7-b2468230.html
This will indeed be excellent when real world (as opposed to claimed) range can match ICE cars . Hopefully the advances in technology will also address the severe winter drops in range of EVs, which are currently far in excess of ICE cars and, finally, when an empty to full charge takes no longer than the 5 minutes that it takes to achieve this in an ICE car. I have no doubt that all of this will be achieved in time. Frankly, it has to in order to convince the majority to make the change.
Due to the personal Allowance being frozen at £12570 it should be now over £15,000 so I with my State pension and Gov pension which just puts me now into paying tax and in April the State Pension triple lock I will be paying more tax again. When I was on ESA Just before end of October I paid no tax and now they deduct it from my Local Authority Pension and I have also having to pay rent for the first time so they give with one and takeaway with the other, what’s new it has always been like that when working you get a pay rise the more tax and NI and the more overtime i did was not always worth it. I do not mind paying some tax though but obviously it would make the cost of living more helpful if the Personal went up as more and more Pensioners are going to be bought into paying tax on small pension amounts.
Due to the personal Allowance being frozen at £12570 it should be now over £15,000 so I with my State pension and Gov pension which just puts me now into paying tax and in April the State Pension triple lock I will be paying more tax again. When I was on ESA Just before end of October I paid no tax and now they deduct it from my Local Authority Pension and I have also having to pay rent for the first time so they give with one and takeaway with the other, what’s new it has always been like that when working you get a pay rise the more tax and NI and the more overtime i did was not always worth it. I do not mind paying some tax though but obviously it would make the cost of living more helpful if the Personal went up as more and more Pensioners are going to be bought into paying tax on small pension amounts.
I think the personal allowance might go up next year @tim as part of the pre election budget, even though it’s due to be frozen for another 2 years. Either that or a 1p cut in the base rate of tax. Possibly both if finances allow. As you say, the freezing of allowances has been a stealth tax, pushing millions into paying tax and into the 40% band. You are still far better off earning more and paying 20% tax though – as you still keep the other 80%.
Due to the personal Allowance being frozen at £12570 it should be now over £15,000 so I with my State pension and Gov pension which just puts me now into paying tax and in April the State Pension triple lock I will be paying more tax again. When I was on ESA Just before end of October I paid no tax and now they deduct it from my Local Authority Pension and I have also having to pay rent for the first time so they give with one and takeaway with the other, what’s new it has always been like that when working you get a pay rise the more tax and NI and the more overtime i did was not always worth it. I do not mind paying some tax though but obviously it would make the cost of living more helpful if the Personal went up as more and more Pensioners are going to be bought into paying tax on small pension amounts.
I think the personal allowance might go up next year @tim as part of the pre election budget, even though it’s due to be frozen for another 2 years. Either that or a 1p cut in the base rate of tax. Possibly both if finances allow. As you say, the freezing of allowances has been a stealth tax, pushing millions into paying tax and into the 40% band. You are still far better off earning more and paying 20% tax though – as you still keep the other 80%.
Ride on Glos you are right nice to be on State pension as being on ESA was a nightmare.
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