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Photo I sent on survey of cut-out.
Pic of the EV install
Also a week later we had new smart meters installed as old ones never sent data ever. Who flagged up that the gas bonding was near boiler, not gas meter and gave me a card.
The question, is this supply looped?
He looked at the wires as did the Ev installer from ohme and then just installed the new meter.
Where does that wire go that comes out of the left of the cut-out and comes back into the top of the righthand side.
The answer according to National grid, after coming and looking at it and checking next-door, is that it’s looped to next door via a tail. So they coming around to do full survey to plan the unloop on the 12th and then hopefully do the work needed. He did say it was very unusual and he’d not seen one like this before.
Luckily next-door have agreed to this in principle as their meter will need moving outside as they are looped from us and then connected to their consumer unit which is under the stairs like ours is. We live in a semi- detached house.
We only need a new connection outside to what comes in already to us and then they will upgrade the cut-out also from the 60a. Kind of lucky to have the Charger installed, but also worried that it could be an issue if two 4 bedroom houses are drawing off a 60a fuse, but as I only charge at night not a big issue as they don’t have an Ev charger.
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@ELtel you should really consider a board change or at the very least a upfront RCD!
@ELtel you should really consider a board change or at the very least a upfront RCD!
We should yes but, really the whole house needs a re-wire and that’s not affordable or currently practical to do.
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Not really keen on EVs, but with all the issues we’re having with our short journeys (clogged GPF), it makes sense.
I know our install wouldn’t be “standard” so would have to contribute to to costs. What I really need to know is, will Motability organise a survey before I order an EV?
I suspect that the extra costs will be to great for me and don’t want to order the car first, knowing that I’ll likely have to cancel it.
Motability have the most bizarre way of approaching this…..you have to order an EV which will then trigger their installer to contact you about the charger. The survey will be completed and if extra work is needed, the quote provided. If that’s not acceptable then you cancel the entire order and start again with an ICE car!
I’m looking at an EV and I know for absolute certain that any chargepoint will not be standard so rather than waste everyone’s time ordering and then cancelling a car, I asked if I could have a survey done first to establish the cost to see if it’s affordable, and have been told no, I have to order a car first and can then cancel if it’s not suitable!
Hi trb10 and others,  I totally agree it is silly to order vehicle first to then see if you’re suitable for charger.
Im in same position and intend to contact OHME to see what features their chargers come with as standard. I watched the video posted by Bryson and found it informative.
Regards, wonky
I’m sure I could get a quote for myself and get a rough idea of how much the extras we require will cost.
But I don’t think it’s fair to get a quote, knowing I’ll not be using them for the install.
I’m sure I could get a quote for myself and get a rough idea of how much the extras we require will cost. But I don’t think it’s fair to get a quote, knowing I’ll not be using them for the install.
Share a few pic’s and a brief explanation of your consumer unit, location and where you’d want the charger and I’ll see what I can do.
I’m sure I could get a quote for myself and get a rough idea of how much the extras we require will cost. But I don’t think it’s fair to get a quote, knowing I’ll not be using them for the install.
Thanks Kezo and Jason23.
The main non-standard installation would be digging a trench for 18M of cable, that would need to connect to a charging podium/post. Our drive is 18m away from our consumer unit.
I found OHME really good, though it had seemed to me, being technically thick, that it was a simple swop for a BP one and put the opposite side of the front door, they put in a new consumer unit and rewired, at no extra expense. The swop was free because BP have stopped supporting their ap.
Recent cars: Hyundai Kona Ultimate EV; Volkswagen Caddy Maxi wheelchair accessible; Skoda Enyaq iV SportLine; Vauxhall Mokka-E; Kia Soul EV, Hyundai Kona (again)
Thanks Kezo and Jason23. The main non-standard installation would be digging a trench for 18M of cable, that would need to connect to a charging podium/post. Our drive is 18m away from our consumer unit.
There are many variables and inconsistencies with Ohmes non standard pricing, as you will find if you searched this forum for Ohme charger non standered installation with trench required.
That said, to bury a cable, it needs to be done correctly and that involves a trench dug at a depth of approx 500 – 600mm and the SWA cable should be enclosed with sand before any back filling and a surface top coat is applied. Any other cable type, such as EVUltra, should be ducted prior to back filling and not just push into the ground, as seen with Nynex AKA Virgin media. This link may proove benificial in the future, should you decide to go ahead with a Ohme install.
Is there a wall etc, you could surface mount the cable down to the point of where you want the charger installed?
As mentioned pricing is inconsistent, even a meter of cable is charged at different prices with forum members. Its therefore not easy to come up with costing, especially where trenching is required and I can see why. Motability give Ohme £750 for a standard install they are willing to pay for, Ohme take their cut and pass the job on, to one of national EV installer company’s (they are purely office with contractors with sign up to become members). The national EV installer companies, then take their cut and pass what money is remaining to one of their contractors.
Even on standard install, contractors often loose out and will use steel wired armour (SWA) cable, with seperate CAT 5, isnstead of EVUltra and use industrialised cleats, rather than EVUltra or other fire rated clips, that are near invisable once installed, to claw back costs. So with a non standard install, installers will see it as a way to claw back costs and take shortcut, to make the install worth while, hence the inconsistencies in priceing seen on this forum and others. Ive been there myself when work is slack so know first hand what its about and if I’m honest, I’d much prefer to do agency work during these times!
Can I do my own work?
Only Ohme approved installation partners are permitted to complete any work on your installation. They will complete the work from start to finish to ensure the safety of the installation.Â
This is b@llocks and can only be seen, as a way to charge over the odds for all concerned! Most of my work is commercial, industrial and ground workers are contracted to dig the holes, with cable layers or apprentice’s laying the cables, because you got another thing comming, if you think I’m digging tholes or trenches lol, but on a serious note work is carried out to a higher standard and electricians do the electrical connections. Rules aren’t as strict in domestic and there is nothing stopping you or a family member or a frien or local handymannd digging a trench, installing a concrete pad with access but Ohme wn’t allow it through nothing more than greed!
To answer your question truefully, I don’t know but it will not be cheap and going from another member on here who was quoted circ £1300 for a 6m trench and cable or there about, you can hazard a guess it won’t be cheap!
Option 2 – Ohme won’t do it because they will say its dangerous but, in reality no more dangerous to 5m of charging cable being a trip hazard and the fact they think they would be loosing out on money, as explained, is to have a non tethered charger fixed to a wall of the house and purchase a 20m type 2 cable from somewhere like EV cables and run it across the garden to the car, when it needs charging.
Doing this will work out much cheaper in the long run and your helping your local sparky out, who would charge more reasonable rates than Ohme. As for chargers there are many non tethered availble on the market, cheaper but, as godd as Ohme. Electricity Tariffs such as Eon Next Drive are as good if not better than Octopus iO or OVO anytime.
Any questions do ask
PS nice to see you on the forum again Gilders 🙂
Thanks again Kezo,
For some reason I’d totally forgot about non tethered chargers. It certainly seems the best option for me, even though it’s frustrating that I’d have to fund my own charge point.
Thanks again Kezo, For some reason I’d totally forgot about non tethered chargers. It certainly seems the best option for me, even though it’s frustrating that I’d have to fund my own charge point.
Sadly, when taking into account funding your own installation and purchasing a 20m type 2 charging cable, it will highly likely still work out cheaper, than having a non standard install and free charger from Ohme!
The non tethered Hydra Cubis, is around £350 but, let me know if going EV route closer to the time and I’ll give you info on some decent chargers that don’t cost the earth.
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